The NFL botched the Ezekiel Elliott probe, but won't admit it

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You guys are still arguing whether he did it or not, whether she faked it or not, whether there is evidence or not.

This is not a court case.

The only thing up for contention is the NFL's ability to punish a player for whatever reason they deem fit, and that battle has precedent that doesn't favor Zeke.

Airing all this dirt about the ex-girlfriend helps Zeke's image and continues to make Goodell look worse, but it doesn't mean a damn thing to the NFL – who already had this info when they made their verdict.

It's completely up to the NFL to decide if they want to lessen the suspension (They won't cancel it) because a court case/arbitration ends in the NFL winning, due to the idiotically broad CBA terms the players agreed to.

The appeal is being heard by someone other than Goodell. Who knows what Henderson will be considering.

More broadly is the discussion of what is the appropriate method of determining fault and thus punishment. The NFL could do whatever they want sure but that does not mean that they should or more specifically that we should support them.

Personally I think that the NFL thinks it has a better system than the Constitution and the US courts to be laughable.

And given that the NFL pays attention to public opinion it matters very much if we as a whole think that the NFL is screwing the proverbial pooch here. Both for the upcoming appeal and how these types of things will be dealt with in the future. The CBA is going to be renegotiated here in a couple of years and as fans we all have an interest in the outcome. It does affect us as consumers.

 

[Preoccupied]

Most of the NFL don't give a hoot about Elliotts troubles. Its only a big drama on a few Cowboy boards. I hope it gets concluded quickly so we can get back to what really matters. Cowboy Football!!

I found it on page one yippee
some one who has already typed what I was thinking.....no wonder my post count is a slow burner, why reinvent the wheel.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Did Ezekiel Elliott strike that woman at least once?

There is no direct evidence that he did outside of a witness who has no credibility nor corroboration.

 

[tideh20heel]

There is no direct evidence that he did outside of a witness who has no credibility nor corroboration.

Actually it is a witness refuted by multiple other witnesses. This is a joke.

 

[StarBoyz83]

This is going to very annoying if this is dragged out like the Brady case and he gets suspended next season for 4 games!

 

[DeaconBlues]

Here let me educate you:

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any ...

This means the law of the Constitution supersedes any other law in the United States. I've mentioned it before and I hope you learn it.

As for Cowboyszone.com the first amendment still does apply. However, when you agreed to their terms of services you waived those rights completely. Which means anything you put here is owned by Cowboyszome.com - NOT YOU. Whatever you say here is now longer yours. So basically Cowboyszone.com has covered their bases regarding the 1st amendment and that they own whatever is posted here. Thus you can't sue them based on the 1st amendment. Facebook does this too. They own whatever content you put on Facebook.

Your not trying to help me. I know what I'm talking about. Its you that needs to be educated in such matters. Not me.

No. Just no.

 

[plasticman]

There is no direct evidence that he did outside of a witness who has no credibility nor corroboration.

You are right in that we don't really know.

However, if I were being suspended and branded a woman beater and I was absolutely innocent then I would be diaplaying far more emotions. I would want to speak to the media and no legal team could prevent me. I would be challenging Goodel to find proof, i would absolutely be calling him out.

If anybody was going to hurt my career, my team, reputation and family then there is no way I would be reading a scripted statement. I would have filed for slander long before any investigation had evan begun.

As soon as I learned the NFL decided to investigate I would be on their butt for making it an issue.......if I was totally innocent.

 

[zekecowboy]

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[Kevinicus]

Here let me educate you:

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any ...

This means the law of the Constitution supersedes any other law in the United States. I've mentioned it before and I hope you learn it.

As for Cowboyszone.com the first amendment still does apply. However, when you agreed to their terms of services you waived those rights completely. Which means anything you put here is owned by Cowboyszome.com - NOT YOU. Whatever you say here is now longer yours. So basically Cowboyszone.com has covered their bases regarding the 1st amendment and that they own whatever is posted here. Thus you can't sue them based on the 1st amendment. Facebook does this too. They own whatever content you put on Facebook.

Your not trying to help me. I know what I'm talking about. Its you that needs to be educated in such matters. Not me.

*sigh* I tried. Good luck to you.

 

[StylisticS]

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And the NFL had this? How do they determine that he deserves suspension after this information?

 

[Diehardblues]

If we can suspend Jason Garrett for 6 games instead I'm ok with it.

How about suspending Jerry?

 

[Nightman]

There is no direct evidence that he did outside of a witness who has no credibility nor corroboration.

Can Rod Smith come forward and take the blame......he has ties to Ohio St and we can take care of him on the back end

Since no one knows how those other bruises happened RSMith can say he tried to restrain her from hurting herself after Zeke broke up with her.....its as good a story as hers

I am only 1/2 kidding...... they should make a mockery of the NFL's investigation

 

[Nightman]

This is going to very annoying if this is dragged out like the Brady case and he gets suspended next season for 4 games!

It is still worth it to Zeke to fight for his reputation and career

 

[Philmonroe]

You are right in that we don't really know.

However, if I were being suspended and branded a woman beater and I was absolutely innocent then I would be diaplaying far more emotions. I would want to speak to the media and no legal team could prevent me. I would be challenging Goodel to find proof, i would absolutely be calling him out.

If anybody was going to hurt my career, my team, reputation and family then there is no way I would be reading a scripted statement. I would have filed for slander long before any investigation had evan begun.

As soon as I learned the NFL decided to investigate I would be on their butt for making it an issue.......if I was totally innocent.

People like you are very funny. Ole if it was me if scream I was innocent types. Smh. Y'all really act like that means he said he's guilty loudly must be true like most people still won't think you're lying. This wouldn't be the first time someone has said they aren't guilty and been proven otherwise so I don't know how y'all can figure this is the way to go

 

[DeaconBlues]

You are right in that we don't really know.

However, if I were being suspended and branded a woman beater and I was absolutely innocent then I would be diaplaying far more emotions. I would want to speak to the media and no legal team could prevent me. I would be challenging Goodel to find proof, i would absolutely be calling him out.

If anybody was going to hurt my career, my team, reputation and family then there is no way I would be reading a scripted statement. I would have filed for slander long before any investigation had evan begun.

As soon as I learned the NFL decided to investigate I would be on their butt for making it an issue.......if I was totally innocent.

Your attorney would urge you not to speak out on the allegations; to the point of ending his/her representation if you insisted.

An example to the negative is Martin Shkreli, the individual who drastically raised the cost of drugs after acquiring the companies. He was on trial for fraud to his investors. Both before and during his trial, his attorneys told him not to publicly speak out on not only the trial, but any issue. Shkreli continued to speak out re trial on public media and press conferences. Eventually, during the trial, the prosecutors and his lawyers made a motion to gag Shkreli, which was granted.

Now, his statements were of no importance for the case at trial; however, during the sentencing the prosecutors can bring up every one of his statements to show a lack of remorse and a lack of respect for the trial and/ or defrauded investors, in order to seek a higher sentence and fines.

True, his attorneys were not going to threaten their representation; hourly 4 figure billing would make one hesitant to walk away. But I am sure he was warned strenuously about the affect on sentencing. It is likely he ignored it because he was positive he would not be convicted.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

People like you are very funny. Ole if it was me if scream I was innocent types. Smh. Y'all really act like that means he said he's guilty loudly must be true like most people still won't think you're lying. This wouldn't be the first time someone has said they aren't guilty and been proven otherwise so I don't know how y'all can figure this is the way to go

They said the same thing about the Duke lacrosse players. They said that because the Duke lacrosse players weren't speaking that they must have done it.

It's amazing how people forget this case when it was 10 years ago. You would think that they may have learned their lesson.

But no, we have a woman involved here...let's just keep with the same ignorance and hypocrisies.





YR

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Your attorney would urge you not to speak out on the allegations; to the point of ending his/her representation if you insisted.

An example to the negative is Martin Shkreli, the individual who drastically raised the cost of drugs after acquiring the companies. He was on trial for fraud to his investors. Both before and during his trial, his attorneys told him not to publicly speak out on not only the trial, but any issue. Shkreli continued to speak out re trial on public media and press conferences. Eventually, during the trial, the prosecutors and his lawyers made a motion to gag Shkreli, which was granted.

Now, his statements were of no importance for the case at trial; however, during the sentencing the prosecutors can bring up every one of his statements to show a lack of remorse and a lack of respect for the trial and/ or defrauded investors, in order to seek a higher sentence and fines.

True, his attorneys were not going to threaten their representation; hourly 4 figure billing would make one hesitant to walk away. But I am sure he was warned strenuously about the affect on sentencing. It is likely he ignored it because he was positive he would not be convicted.

The same happened to AJ Daulerio and Nick Denton in their lawsuit defense from Hulk Hogan. Hogan not only won in court, but demolished them with the punitive damages. Daulerio went from making $400k per year to now scraping by and barely affording a $1,200/month apartment.

EE has stated that he has not done this, it's just right now isn't the time to bring the hell, fire and brimstone. That can come for later.




YR

 

[Sydla]

There is no direct evidence that he did outside of a witness who has no credibility nor corroboration.

I am still chuckling that Harvey would claim that Thompson was a "witness".

 

[Philmonroe]

They said the same thing about the Duke lacrosse players. They said that because the Duke lacrosse players weren't speaking that they must have done it.

It's amazing how people forget this case when it was 10 years ago. You would think that they may have learned their lesson.

But no, we have a woman involved here...let's just keep with the same ignorance and hypocrisies.





YR

Yep a woman involved people lose their minds. Can you imagine if this was backwards how people would light up Zeke more than some are doing right now. If he was the one that was shown to be unbelievable. Nobody would say well just because he lied about one thing that doesn't mean he hit her. Nobody would say that but on the other foot everybody can give benefit of the doubt. It's crazy how easy most of us can be manipulated

 

[plasticman]

People like you are very funny. Ole if it was me if scream I was innocent types. Smh. Y'all really act like that means he said he's guilty loudly must be true like most people still won't think you're lying. This wouldn't be the first time someone has said they aren't guilty and been proven otherwise so I don't know how y'all can figure this is the way to go

No, I wouldn't scream. I would very eloquently describe the degree to which I was offended. I would make it clear just how much I understood I was being attacked.

Domestic abuse is one of the worst things a man could be accused of. Essentially they are being accused of not being a man.

Men were not created larger and stronger so they could bully and beat up on women. They were built that way to protect women from harm. Using the advantages of nature against women is cowardly. It is the action of a punk or thug. It os am admission that they camnot compete with a woman on an intellectual level, they can only get women to respect them on the same level as cavemen.

It's stupid. If you strike a woman then you automatically lose an argument even if you were right. In fact, hardly anyone will remember or care about how the argument started in the first place. They only remember you hit her.

So, the underlying accusations are that Zeke is a stupid punk. It's not about "maturity". A five year old boy should know you don't hit girls.

Again, I am not saying he is guilty. Perhaps I am admiring hia incredible self control.

Because if it were me and I was innocent I don't think I could be restrained from demonstrating my indignation.