The only thing Jerry can do to restore confidence in the Cowboys is to replace Dak Prescott

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Them being all 32 GMs, all 32 coaches, as well as team scouts. One of their responsibilities is to fill out said ranking system and they are not allowed to include their own players. Somehow these professionals who are paid watch film and study how to beat all these players, as well establish how valuable they are and what they are worth, decided Dak was one of the 10 best QBs in football. Lets also be clear that was BEFORE he was 2nd team all pro this year so that ranking is sure to go up.
Again...when you boil it down, it's a subjective opinion. You might say it's an "expert" or "semi-informed" opinion, but we don't know that either. Bottom line he could be "top 2" in your "metric"...that still leaves me with an empty tin cup hollering on a street corner: "My QB is top 2!!!" That's all you get from it.

Cam Newton was a top 3 QB and MVP of the league in 2015. But anybody watching could tell you his style was unsustainable and he was not a big game QB. Just because Dak is in his 8th year and is currently ahead of Jordan Love - lol - doesn't mean this time next year he'll be there. What we do know is that Dak's big game collapses are PART of his history...not a separate thing to be conveniently ignored.
 

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Cooper Rush is not the answer.
He may not be, but he's better than Dak.
That is how bad the situation is.
If you don't think Cooper Rush is the answer, yet he outplayed Dak, then you know that Dak is not the answer.
And that is why Dak has to go, rather than waste another year of the fans' lives and another year of talent on the team.
Garrett wasted enough talent and time; now Dak is following in his footsteps.
 

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He may not be, but he's better than Dak.
That is how bad the situation is.
If you don't think Cooper Rush is the answer, yet he outplayed Dak, then you know that Dak is not the answer.
And that is why Dak has to go, rather than waste another year of the fans' lives and another year of talent on the team.
Garrett wasted enough talent and time; now Dak is following in his footsteps.
I'm not sure he's better but he sure throws better passes that Dak can't to WRs, like NFL passes
 

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He may not be, but he's better than Dak.
That is how bad the situation is.
If you don't think Cooper Rush is the answer, yet he outplayed Dak, then you know that Dak is not the answer.
And that is why Dak has to go, rather than waste another year of the fans' lives and another year of talent on the team.
Garrett wasted enough talent and time; now Dak is following in his footsteps.
This entire entry is why people think Cowboys fans are…not too bright. So, the guy that came in 2nd in the MVP vote is not as good as his backup…that’s seriously your argument?
 

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Anybody who thinks Rush is the answer is simply overcome by their own sense of desperation. Jerry is not THAT "all in". But whatever he does with Dak, I sincerely hope it does NOT include a $60M contract.
 
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Anyone who has a higher than 70 football IQ knows wins are not a QB stat. People who say they are either do not football or are trying to dumb it down for the simple minded. Now maybe the coaches and GMs of all 32 teams are wrong and Dak is not top 10. You think he is not top 15. The thing is though if you were smarter than all of them about football you would be in their office right now and not posting about it here.

When you want to actually win you have to be smart enough to look at the root causes of what caused the team problems. For example against Green Bay the offense had a bad half and the defense had a historically bad game. Now the bad half is something every single offense in the playoffs can claim to have had so the focus is on why did the defense have one of the worst playoff performances you could possibly have (6 TDs in the first 7 possessions leading to the 4th quarter). So lets focus on the historically bad performance by the defense and what was the cause: they got run over and even by the Packers own admission they were targeting the S playing LB. So lets back up: did this exact problem happen during the season? Yes actually multiple times. So analyzing the biggest weakness of the team overall it seems as though it is that if the offense cannot get out to a big lead the defense cannot actually hold up and carry the day. This means the team has no chance without getting an actual LB to solve that problem because, as we saw from every team in the playoffs, there are going to be times when the offense is off for a couple quarters and the defense has to be able to hold up or you have no chance.
SAY WHAT???? What are you chirping about???? ? First and foremost JJ has to trade up in this year's draft and take a QB with the first pick. Second, everyone knows that football is a team sport, but when you're supposed to be leader is an over hyped, overpaid QB who flat out cannot handle the pressure in big games then bad things are going to happen when the playoffs start! Prescot is an above average REGULAR SEASON QB, but once the REGULAR SEASON ends so does Prescot, the dude can't handle the pressure of being the Cowboys QB when the playoffs start, he's just not built that way and it's time to get away from him as fast as possible. If as you say, Prescot is beloved by 31 other teams in the NFL then he needs to give JJ a list of teams that he would approve a trade to. If Prescot is really in it to win a ring then he should be all in on a trade especially if the Boys draft a QB, but if he wants to ride out this year with the Cowboys and eat up a huge chunk of the CAP SPACE then JJ should inform Prescot that he won't be starting this year and that it's going to be a long year for him while both Rush and Lance eat up the offensive downs in 2024. If the Cowboys want to get better than teams like the 9ers, Eagles or Detroit there need to be some radical changes done this to this team...............
 

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I'm not sure he's better but he sure throws better passes that Dak can't to WRs, like NFL passes
CD and the rest of our WR seemed to enjoy Rush being under center..................Just saying.
 

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This entire entry is why people think Cowboys fans are…not too bright. So, the guy that came in 2nd in the MVP vote is not as good as his backup…that’s seriously your argument?
Not an argument; it's a statement of fact based on what we all saw.
It's truth; you just don't like it.
 

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Again...when you boil it down, it's a subjective opinion. You might say it's an "expert" or "semi-informed" opinion, but we don't know that either. Bottom line he could be "top 2" in your "metric"...that still leaves me with an empty tin cup hollering on a street corner: "My QB is top 2!!!" That's all you get from it.

Cam Newton was a top 3 QB and MVP of the league in 2015. But anybody watching could tell you his style was unsustainable and he was not a big game QB. Just because Dak is in his 8th year and is currently ahead of Jordan Love - lol - doesn't mean this time next year he'll be there. What we do know is that Dak's big game collapses are PART of his history...not a separate thing to be conveniently ignored.
Except Dak's game is nothing like that and you know it. Dak's game is the more traditional game that we have seen multiple QBs play into their late 30s with.

However in your effort to consider people who spend hours and hours studying film and are paid to analyze and know more about these players then anyone the equivalent to random pundits, you missed the forest for the trees. While yes it does mean that the smartest people in football have come to a consensus that Dak is a top 10 QB, it also means that the people who decide upon his value to organizations consider him top 10 which also matters far more than random pundit because they dont sign the checks.
 

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CD and the rest of our WR seemed to enjoy Rush being under center..................Just saying.
It's the same way I could see someone else come in here and give this team a different spark and guys lean more to him just how they did Dak for romo
 

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SAY WHAT???? What are you chirping about???? ? First and foremost JJ has to trade up in this year's draft and take a QB with the first pick. Second, everyone knows that football is a team sport, but when you're supposed to be leader is an over hyped, overpaid QB who flat out cannot handle the pressure in big games then bad things are going to happen when the playoffs start! Prescot is an above average REGULAR SEASON QB, but once the REGULAR SEASON ends so does Prescot, the dude can't handle the pressure of being the Cowboys QB when the playoffs start, he's just not built that way and it's time to get away from him as fast as possible. If as you say, Prescot is beloved by 31 other teams in the NFL then he needs to give JJ a list of teams that he would approve a trade to. If Prescot is really in it to win a ring then he should be all in on a trade especially if the Boys draft a QB, but if he wants to ride out this year with the Cowboys and eat up a huge chunk of the CAP SPACE then JJ should inform Prescot that he won't be starting this year and that it's going to be a long year for him while both Rush and Lance eat up the offensive downs in 2024. If the Cowboys want to get better than teams like the 9ers, Eagles or Detroit there need to be some radical changes done this to this team...............
Some fans here are just delusional. First its funny you think all the best football minds in the world have collectively overhyped Dak but, random people on the couch can tell the difference and are smarter. I find that arrogance rather funny to be honest.

Lets move on from that silly talk and onto about the actual thing you are talking about and that is going from the 20s to 1 and how impossible it is. Here is an example of what that offer would have to be, at a minimum, for them not thang up the phone on the spot: 3 1s, 3 2s, Micah, and Bland, and that is probably getting negotiated up from that into another 3 or something. At which point you are now down your core defensive pieces, your top 10 QB, have no money to spend, and no picks, but at least you have, at best, a 1/3 chance of having someone who is in the same tier as Dak so um I guess that is a good thing.
 

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Makes no sense at all. Dallas stunk before Dak and likely will stink after he is gone.
As I have said: Jason Garrett instilled in Dak his way of doing things with no accountability.
Dak is Garrett 2.0.
 

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The only thing Jerry can do is resign as GM and appoint a qualified replacement but he won't do that.
 

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I imagine we might get a 3rd rounder and have to cover 1/2 his salary , but even a 3rd might be a reach.
 

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Not an argument; it's a statement of fact based on what we all saw.
It's truth; you just don't like it.
Statement of fact...based on what facts? FACTS have to have proven answers. Your reasoning is an opinion...during the regular season, Dak played very well as was mentioned by NUMEROUS people on the multitude of NFL-related media coverage In the playoff game, he was terrible (as was the whole team). Those are FACTS. During Cooper Rush's run last year, the offense averaged 22 points and 183.8 passing ypg. They were 4-1 because the defense gave up 15.8 ppg during his run. Those are FACTS. If Cooper Rush is SO GOOD, why wasn't he starting elsewhere? And, if Dak is so bad, why did they go 12-5 and win the NFC East? These are, again, facts. The TRUTH is he was good in the regular season and terrible in the playoffs. IF his playoff performance is the reasoning for your position, I can support that. But stop making up crap that he didn't perform well during the regular season.
 
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