The other reasons this HC job is unattractive

[KingCorcoran]

In the modern “1-2 years and you’re out” coaching environment, there isn’t a coach alive who would take a rookie QB over a veteran the caliber of Dak for their first few years. Not a single one.

There are coaches that won’t consider working for the Dallas Cowboys because of “the caliber of Dak”.

 

[nate dizzle]

Dak is the 7th highest rated QB ever in games in which his team rushed for under 100 yards. Not last season, not during his time in the league, EVER.

The seething, visceral hatred of Dak that has come to suffocate all other discussion on this site has taken all enjoyment out of the experience. It has reached heights of absurdity that even peak Romo hatred never did.

What's his record in those games? What were the final scores? Was the game over in the 3rd qtr and the defense took their foot off the gas while Dak tried to pass them back into it after a bad first half? Garbage time is Dak time.

 

[Havic]

Jerry / Stephen by far are the biggest problems on this team. Why would a young hot shot OC want to come into Dallas strapped to an underperforming QB with a meddling owner who prevents you from fully implementing your system or holding players accountable. Mike took the job because at that time nobody else wanted him. It will have to be the same reason again.

 

[ArtClink]

Before Monday night’s playoff game between the Rams and Vikings, Troy Aikman very clearly stated on ESPN why the head coaching position In Dallas has lost a ton of its luster - Hint: It starts with Jerry and ends with Jones. Not a surprise or breaking news there.

But I also believe there are some other big reasons this job is not as attractive as it might have been once:

• The QB here is 31, has not been great in big playoff games, and has had 3 major injuries in the last 4 seasons. I’m not one who believes that Dak is the bottom of the barrel, but he’s certainly not at the top either. Without a really good running game, Dak is just above average at best. And he’s on the downside of his career. Very few QBs who have won SBs do it in their 30s. Sure there are some. But very few.
• The roster has holes all over it. There are major holes in the trenches on both sides of the ball. OL, DL, RB, WR, LB…and that’s just a start. When you take the fan glasses off, this roster is Swiss cheese.
• The front office uses an outdated vision of roster building. “Draft and develop” is only 50% of a championship building process. In today’s NFL, without some meaningful free agent signings (not dumpster dive FAs) along with good drafts, yiu can’t seriously compete.
• This FO does not appear to understand how to manage the salary cap. While Stephen Jones tells us every year that the cap prevents us from signing any FAs of note, great GMs who also have a big payroll like us - people like Brett Veach, Howie Roseman and Les Snead say, “Hold my beer” and then sign FAs or make big trades anyway. And win playoff games.
• Finally - it‘s obvious that whoever is HC in Dallas will be scapegoated for the sins of Jerry and Stephen Jones. Look at what happened to McCarthy. He was handed a bad roster from the FO and then held “accountable”. It’s inherently a scapegoat job.

I would love to believe being the HC of the Dallas Cowboys is a big attraction to coaching talent, but besides the Jerry Jones circus meddling, the reasons above are also big problems for any big time HC candidates who want to win a championship.

I wish this weren’t true.

Well said and all true. I hope McCarthy gets a chance to be an NFL head coach again, free of the alcohol drenched Jerry to take away all his power. The Jonesboys play Chicago next season in Chicago and it would be interesting to see our new castrated “head coach” compete against McCarthy.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

In the modern “1-2 years and you’re out” coaching environment, there isn’t a coach alive who would take a rookie QB over a veteran the caliber of Dak for their first few years. Not a single one.

Jerry has been giving coaches 5 years

 

[ArtClink]

Isn't there already a thread about this full of complaining about Jones? Seriously, can we just start a new forum threads where all the Jones complaints can go? I get it, I really do. But I'm tired of reading it, ad nauseum, in every single thread.

Thanks for keeping this thread alive. I wasn’t aware you’d been issued a cardboard sheriffs badge to moderate posts that were made well within the guidelines of this forum. You’re gonna be busy as a bee posting on anti Jerry threads.

 

[Ranching]

If it was this vs another team like Chicago or Jacksonville that don't require you to bend the knee and play puppet boy to Jerry and be strapped to a gimpy, past his prime and declining QB on a cap restrictive contract ? Hell no. Most smart people wouldn't, given the option. That's why you're going to get the bottom of the barrel. Retreads looking for a final shot or somebody that already played or worked here that makes Jerry comfortable.

Weak wussies are exactly what Jerry is looking for...pay attention

If a person has his pick, I may agree...although, many would take the Cowboys, because it is the Cowboys and they feel they have the sack to fix it. As for as Jerry wanting weak wussies....he has plenty of those already...all talk, no action

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Both

absurd as he doesn't deserve holds an argument.

absurd as in the cap implications is no different than Detroit, Philly and GB, all of who are in playoffs and actually have tougher cap situations than us, yet they manage.

 

[DasTex]

absurd as he doesn't deserve holds an argument.

absurd as in the cap implications is no different than Detroit, Philly and GB, all of who are in playoffs and actually have tougher cap situations than us, yet they manage.

Check out how it's structured
No trade clause
Almost all guaranteed

 

[nate dizzle]

If a person has his pick, I may agree...although, many would take the Cowboys, because it is the Cowboys and they feel they have the sack to fix it. As for as Jerry wanting weak wussies....he has plenty of those already...all talk, no action

Sack is irrelevant. Like I said in the thread I made the other day...castration is a job requirement.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Check out how it's structured
No trade clause
Almost all guaranteed

Are you suggesting a great business a like Jerry Jones did not know what he was doing when he offered Dak Prescott the contract he did? Jerry is a great businessman. Everyone knows that. No way Dak and his agent got over on a great businessman like Jerry Jones. You’ll never get me to believe that could happen.

 

[Ranching]

Sack is irrelevant. Like I said in the thread I made the other day...castration is a job requirement.

You seem to know a lot about that.....keep your distance. And, if you don't think a coach needs a sack to lead any team, much less this one, you don't know half as much as I gave you credit for.

 

[Chasing6]

It would have made more sense after signing Dak to that big contract to keep McCarthy. Because starting over with another new offense and with all the holes this team has…

Whatever anyone thought of McCarthy, he was the best HC we’ve had since the Big Tuna. He had problems but unless the Jerry leopard changes his spots we have likely taken a significant step backward.

They tried to keep MM.

 

[nate dizzle]

You seem to know a lot about that.....keep your distance. And, if you don't think a coach needs a sack to lead any team, much less this one, you don't know half as much as I gave you credit for.

Whatever dude, I don't feel like going in circles with you if you're going take everything literally. You know what Jerry is and what he does to undermine his coaches and you know I'm right. You just want to argue and take your little shots at me for whatever reason. Not in the mood to play tonight, sorry. Have a good night.

 

[Ranching]

Isn't there already a thread about this full of complaining about Jones? Seriously, can we just start a new forum threads where all the Jones complaints can go? I get it, I really do. But I'm tired of reading it, ad nauseum, in every single thread.

Some posters have an anti Jerry, Dak, Parsons, etc fixation, it makes them happy....besides, I think there's a rule against bumping a thread, so just star a new one every 10 minutes instead. Lol....used to bother me too, now, I just take it with a grain of salt and have a good giggle at their expense.

 

[zrinkill]

But I'm tired of reading it, ad nauseum, in every single thread.

Then stop reading

 

[RonWashington]

Before Monday night’s playoff game between the Rams and Vikings, Troy Aikman very clearly stated on ESPN why the head coaching position In Dallas has lost a ton of its luster - Hint: It starts with Jerry and ends with Jones. Not a surprise or breaking news there.

But I also believe there are some other big reasons this job is not as attractive as it might have been once:

• The QB here is 31, has not been great in big playoff games, and has had 3 major injuries in the last 4 seasons. I’m not one who believes that Dak is the bottom of the barrel, but he’s certainly not at the top either. Without a really good running game, Dak is just above average at best. And he’s on the downside of his career. Very few QBs who have won SBs do it in their 30s. Sure there are some. But very few.
• The roster has holes all over it. There are major holes in the trenches on both sides of the ball. OL, DL, RB, WR, LB…and that’s just a start. When you take the fan glasses off, this roster is Swiss cheese.
• The front office uses an outdated vision of roster building. “Draft and develop” is only 50% of a championship building process. In today’s NFL, without some meaningful free agent signings (not dumpster dive FAs) along with good drafts, yiu can’t seriously compete.
• This FO does not appear to understand how to manage the salary cap. While Stephen Jones tells us every year that the cap prevents us from signing any FAs of note, great GMs who also have a big payroll like us - people like Brett Veach, Howie Roseman and Les Snead say, “Hold my beer” and then sign FAs or make big trades anyway. And win playoff games.
• Finally - it‘s obvious that whoever is HC in Dallas will be scapegoated for the sins of Jerry and Stephen Jones. Look at what happened to McCarthy. He was handed a bad roster from the FO and then held “accountable”. It’s inherently a scapegoat job.

I would love to believe being the HC of the Dallas Cowboys is a big attraction to coaching talent, but besides the Jerry Jones circus meddling, the reasons above are also big problems for any big time HC candidates who want to win a championship.

I wish this weren’t true.

Great post Bob . Yes the FO is at least 65% of the problem and without oustanding coaching 35% blame should go that way .

 

[KingCorcoran]

Some posters have an anti Jerry, Dak, Parsons, etc fixation, it makes them happy....besides, I think there's a rule against bumping a thread, so just star a new one every 10 minutes instead. Lol....used to bother me too, now, I just take it with a grain of salt and have a good giggle at their expense.

I think Jerry, Dak, and Parsons have manifested what they are. Comments on a fan forum will not change what they are. Jerry, the greatest NFL franchise owner ever. Dak, the highest paid player the history of the NFL. Micah Parsons is everything he suggests he is.

 

[Ranching]

I think Jerry, Dak, and Parsons have manifested what they are. Comments on a fan forum will not change what they are. Jerry, the greatest NFL franchise owner ever. Dak, the highest paid player the history of the NFL. Micah Parsons is everything he suggests he is.

They have.......some wouldn't have their fixations, if they hadn't.

 

[plasticman]

When Jerry is gone and Stephen is in charge, he could transform the image most fans have of the entire Jones family from Spawns of Evil to Bringers of Light in an instance.

No, he shouldn't hire a GM. He doesn't have the expertise or knowledge to even know what to look for in a GM. I don't trust him to hire a coach, how could I trust him to hire the person to take over the whole football operations?

Stephen should form a committee of respected former players, coaches, team analysts, and community leaders. I would say a group of 5-7, an odd number to eliminate ties. Stephen should ask them to select the three best candidates after 5-6 weeks of research and intensive interviews. Stephen could make a selection from these choices. The choices could even include members of the committee

In introducing the new GM, Stephen should announce that this GM handles all aspects of the Dallas Cowboys football operations. Stephen would explain that he wants to concentrate on the financial matters regarding sales, merchandizing and management of the stadium. He should proclaim to the public that the next time they hear from him will be when he is presented the Super Bowl trophy on the podium.

Yes, this is the dream. As a fan, this thought is the reason I get out of bed in the morning. It is what I pray for at night. It is why high places and sharp objects don't temp me......figuratively speaking, mostly.

Seriously, these past three decades have been so difficult to endure. My dedication and excitement as a Cowboys fan dwindle very slowly but it dwindles none the less. I find myself less interested in the latest news, less willing to endure a loss to the bitter end.

I used to never walk away from a Cowboys game. I confess, I didn't make it to the 4th quarter of the last Eagles game.

I regard Jerry Jones as a thief who stole something very precious from me. I don't feel so entitled as to expect Super Bowls every other season. However, I do expect possibility and that percentage declines with every major Jerry Jones decision.

I am and will always still be an NFL fan, I love the game. However, if Stephen takes over and crowns himself GM, my fanship will enter a different, less involved phase. I could never completely stay away from them, but I will miss the good days.