The other reasons this HC job is unattractive

[Diehardblues]

Campo....I don't remember him doing anything. But Gailey got another Head Coaching job, Wade was a DC in a championship and Garrett was a OC for the Giants.....I don't know if i'd say their value went up but it sure didn't hurt them. Especially Gailey.

It took Gailey 11 years before he was given another HC opportunity in NFL after a couple brief OC stints had to go back to NCAA for about 7 years as HC of Ga Tech.

Gailey remains the only Cowboys HC since Jimmy to become a HC again in NFL.

I expect McCarthy to become the next.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

It seems to be more attractive that you think.

Yep, people can talk all they want, but this is still probably the most visible coaching job in North America. There will always be people that want to be the one to make Dallas relevant again. People forget that many of these coaches are cocky, narcissistic aholes who think they can turn anything around.

The people commenting that coaches only get 2-3 years apparently haven't noticed that the last two coaches here got 5 years and 10 years. Dallas is a different breed of animal.

Some say the team has a ton of holes. I am not sure that is completely true. This team has at least 8-8 talent. A good draft and an investment in free agency could easily get them to be a contender for the division title. While not an elite group, the OL played pretty decently over the second half of the year with young talent that should get better with more experience. Dowdle had a nice second half of the year once they realized he should have been the lead back all year.

People say we don't know how to manage the cap, but we have been able to manage and keep top tier talent at RB, QB, WR, LG, LT, DE and will be able to resign the most important free agents we have. We also can make more than 80m in cap space without touching Dak's deal.

This is not an awful job, but it does take a coach that can handle the heat.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yep, people can talk all they want, but this is still probably the most visible coaching job in North America. There will always be people that want to be the one to make Dallas relevant again. People forget that many of these coaches are cocky, narcissistic aholes who think they can turn anything around.

The people commenting that coaches only get 2-3 years apparently haven't noticed that the last two coaches here got 5 years and 10 years. Dallas is a different breed of animal.

Some say the team has a ton of holes. I am not sure that is completely true. This team has at least 8-8 talent. A good draft and an investment in free agency could easily get them to be a contender for the division title. While not an elite group, the OL played pretty decently over the second half of the year with young talent that should get better with more experience. Dowdle had a nice second half of the year once they realized he should have been the lead back all year.

People say we don't know how to manage the cap, but we have been able to manage and keep top tier talent at RB, QB, WR, LG, LT, DE and will be able to resign the most important free agents we have. We also can make more than 80m in cap space without touching Dak's deal.

This is not an awful job, but it does take a coach that can handle the heat.

It’s not a job that the top prospects and up and coming HC’s have been interested in nor generally pursued by our ownership.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

It’s not a job that the top prospects and up and coming HC’s have been interested in nor generally pursued by our ownership.

Why would you come to Dallas unless your phone isn’t ringing.?

The only guy that likely would not answer the phone is Ben Johnson. We know Moore is interviewing. I'd bet Glenn would jump at the chance. Kingsbury, Slowik, Coen, et al are not so elite that they can pick the terms. Flores is looking for a chance. These are many of the elite prospects mentioned.

 

[Diehardblues]

Why would you come to Dallas unless your phone isn’t ringing?

It’s why we have had has so many retreads out of retirement or off the coach like Switzer, Parcells and McCarthy or unproven willing to be puppets like Garrett and Campo.

It’s a completely different situation here with an owner wearing the GM hat undermining and meddling insisting on being not only the face of the franchise but the spokesperson for all matters with personnel which is often handled by the HC.

Why would a HC want to be in a situation without more control. Only reason could be no one else is calling. In the end all you can be is a scapegoat .

 

[Diehardblues]

The only guy that likely would not answer the phone is Ben Johnson. We know Moore is interviewing. I'd bet Glenn would jump at the chance. Kingsbury, Slowik, Coen, et al are not so elite that they can pick the terms. Flores is looking for a chance. These are many of the elite prospects mentioned.

And we’ll see how many are offered the job. Cowboys have to interview a minimum number of applicants including minorities.

But I’d wager that none would accept unless they felt was only opportunity they had to become HC at this time.

 

[Diehardblues]

What’s really sad is there is NO cap for Front Office and Coaching Staffs.

We could build the greatest Dream Team in all of sports . We have the most revenue and could afford more than any franchise in the league.

But our owner has placed his own agendas , personal passions and ambitions over what’s best for Dallas Cowboys Football .

 

[Ranching]

Before Monday night’s playoff game between the Rams and Vikings, Troy Aikman very clearly stated on ESPN why the head coaching position In Dallas has lost a ton of its luster - Hint: It starts with Jerry and ends with Jones. Not a surprise or breaking news there.

But I also believe there are some other big reasons this job is not as attractive as it might have been once:

• The QB here is 31, has not been great in big playoff games, and has had 3 major injuries in the last 4 seasons. I’m not one who believes that Dak is the bottom of the barrel, but he’s certainly not at the top either. Without a really good running game, Dak is just above average at best. And he’s on the downside of his career. Very few QBs who have won SBs do it in their 30s. Sure there are some. But very few.
• The roster has holes all over it. There are major holes in the trenches on both sides of the ball. OL, DL, RB, WR, LB…and that’s just a start. When you take the fan glasses off, this roster is Swiss cheese.
• The front office uses an outdated vision of roster building. “Draft and develop” is only 50% of a championship building process. In today’s NFL, without some meaningful free agent signings (not dumpster dive FAs) along with good drafts, yiu can’t seriously compete.
• This FO does not appear to understand how to manage the salary cap. While Stephen Jones tells us every year that the cap prevents us from signing any FAs of note, great GMs who also have a big payroll like us - people like Brett Veach, Howie Roseman and Les Snead say, “Hold my beer” and then sign FAs or make big trades anyway. And win playoff games.
• Finally - it‘s obvious that whoever is HC in Dallas will be scapegoated for the sins of Jerry and Stephen Jones. Look at what happened to McCarthy. He was handed a bad roster from the FO and then held “accountable”. It’s inherently a scapegoat job.

I would love to believe being the HC of the Dallas Cowboys is a big attraction to coaching talent, but besides the Jerry Jones circus meddling, the reasons above are also big problems for any big time HC candidates who want to win a championship.

I wish this weren’t true.

All that matters is what the coach thinks, fans don't know squat, when it comes to this. If they don't find it attractive, they are weak and we shouldn't want them.

 

[StylisticS]

This is absolutely one of the biggest obstacles in landing a quality candidate that hasn't been a HC before. Who wants to come and hitch their 1st attempt to that disaster.

We all knew it when it was signed that if this didn't work, would a new coach want to work with him.

 

[Diehardblues]

This is absolutely one of the biggest obstacles in landing a quality candidate that hasn't been a HC before. Who wants to come and hitch their 1st attempt to that disaster.

The Cowboys under Jethro & Son this era has been mostly a graveyard for HC’s. A total deadend.

Only Gailey since Jimmy has been provided another opportunity which took him over 10 years including a long stint at Ga Tech.

MM is expected to possibly be only the 2nd Cowboys HC in last 30 years to be offered another HC opportunity.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Jones and Dak are the two biggest reasons

That Dak contract is absurd and we are just now in year one this coming season.
A coach gets 2-3 years to be successful these days and then they are dumped. Unfortunately, that ties right into #4s deal.

Absurd as in he doesn't deserve it.
Or absurd as in handicapping Cowboys?

 

[DasTex]

Absurd as in he doesn't deserve it.
Or absurd as in handicapping Cowboys?

Both

 

[Eightneight]

Isn't there already a thread about this full of complaining about Jones? Seriously, can we just start a new forum threads where all the Jones complaints can go? I get it, I really do. But I'm tired of reading it, ad nauseum, in every single thread.

But it's "I hate Jerry Jones "season.

 

[KingCorcoran]

The Cowboys job will always be coveted because if you have any success you will be set for life. Garrett is the best example. 10 year coaching career with the Cowboys and a cushy job with NBC. No disrespect to Ben Johnson but what has he done to be a made man. If Jerry called he would answer. There are only 32 NFL jobs and Cowboys are easily a top 10 job.

Bottom 10. That’s why Garrett could hold on to the head coaching position so long. He keeps his current job because, unlike being a head football coach, he’s good at it. The Dallas Cowboys are only loved by their mindless fans and NFLPA certified players’ agents.

 

[Ranching]

This is absolutely one of the biggest obstacles in landing a quality candidate that hasn't been a HC before. Who wants to come and hitch their 1st attempt to that disaster.

So, you wouldn't take this job, if you were a young, cocky and hungry coach? I wouldn't want anyone that wouldn't jump at the opportunity. Strike while your fire is hot, opportunities like these don't come across everyday. Weak wussies, need not apply.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Yep, people can talk all they want, but this is still probably the most visible coaching job in North America. There will always be people that want to be the one to make Dallas relevant again. People forget that many of these coaches are cocky, narcissistic aholes who think they can turn anything around.

The people commenting that coaches only get 2-3 years apparently haven't noticed that the last two coaches here got 5 years and 10 years. Dallas is a different breed of animal.

Some say the team has a ton of holes. I am not sure that is completely true. This team has at least 8-8 talent. A good draft and an investment in free agency could easily get them to be a contender for the division title. While not an elite group, the OL played pretty decently over the second half of the year with young talent that should get better with more experience. Dowdle had a nice second half of the year once they realized he should have been the lead back all year.

People say we don't know how to manage the cap, but we have been able to manage and keep top tier talent at RB, QB, WR, LG, LT, DE and will be able to resign the most important free agents we have. We also can make more than 80m in cap space without touching Dak's deal.

This is not an awful job, but it does take a coach that can handle the heat.

It would be nice if Jerry Jones wanted to make the Cowboys relevant again. He thinks newsworthy equals relevant. He’s an idiot.

 

[nate dizzle]

So, you wouldn't take this job, if you were a young, cocky and hungry coach? I wouldn't want anyone that wouldn't jump at the opportunity. Strike while your fire is hot, opportunities like these don't come across everyday. Weak wussies, need not apply.

If it was this vs another team like Chicago or Jacksonville that don't require you to bend the knee and play puppet boy to Jerry and be strapped to a gimpy, past his prime and declining QB on a cap restrictive contract ? Hell no. Most smart people wouldn't, given the option. That's why you're going to get the bottom of the barrel. Retreads looking for a final shot or somebody that already played or worked here that makes Jerry comfortable.

Weak wussies are exactly what Jerry is looking for...pay attention

 

[TWOK11]

Jones and Dak are the two biggest reasons

That Dak contract is absurd and we are just now in year one this coming season.
A coach gets 2-3 years to be successful these days and then they are dumped. Unfortunately, that ties right into #4s deal.

In the modern “1-2 years and you’re out” coaching environment, there isn’t a coach alive who would take a rookie QB over a veteran the caliber of Dak for their first few years. Not a single one.

 

[TWOK11]

Without a really good running game, Dak is just above average at best.

Dak is the 7th highest rated QB ever in games in which his team rushed for under 100 yards. Not last season, not during his time in the league, EVER.

The seething, visceral hatred of Dak that has come to suffocate all other discussion on this site has taken all enjoyment out of the experience. It has reached heights of absurdity that even peak Romo hatred never did.

 

[Pantone282C]

I'll never understand the Cowboys thinking when it comes to signing outside FA's. They don't need to sign those big name big dollar players. But at least sign some decent players and not bargain bin one year stop gap players.

It seems like Jerry reversed himself after initially going for high priced free agents during Romo's days. Some of our draft picks were busts for a while. Hitting the balance would be nice, but he is always after a home run "War Daddy."