The Roy Williams Thread *merged*

[Boyzmamacita]

...you know the one where he blitzes up the middle directly into a lineman making sure he gets himself blocked. Actually, there was a different twist on it in the new scheme. He blitzes directly into a lineman, stops, then starts backpedaling into coverage. The twist makes sure he doesn't get to the QB and also is unable to get back far enough to cover anyone. This drove me crazy last year and looks like it will be more of the same.

It's frustrating. I'm a big Roy fan, but something is wrong with him. He's not good in coverage and he's no longer good near the line of scrimmage. He doesn't wrap up when he tackles and he's no where near the ball so the interceptions will be less frequent. Where is that playmaker that we used to know?

 

[Cochese]

It's frustrating. I'm a big Roy fan, but something is wrong with him. He's not good in coverage and he's no longer good near the line of scrimmage. He doesn't wrap up when he tackles and he's no where near the ball so the interceptions will be less frequent. Where is that playmaker that we used to know?

The playmaker is gone. Roy believes his own hype too much to bother trying to play the game with passion and intensity. The big hits have dried up, he cant cover, he takes horrible angles, is useless blitzing, and he doesnt wrap up. I don't know what he is good for at the moment besides selling jerseys.

 

[RxMan]

I am a big fan of Roy's but everyone is starting to wonder now. It's only one game, but we saw no big hits and it doesn't seem like anyone would be scared to come over the middle anymore. On the 2nd TD, Burress was doubled, Reeves had outside Roy had inside. He took a bad angle (yet again) and had the ball thrown over him.

At least give me some big hits.

Side note: Roy was helping Reeves. When Newman comes back he won't have to do that. That is what I am hanging onto for now.

 

[dallasfaniac]

6th season, 3rd defense.....

I love the keyboard coaching the internet has brought us. Any joe that hasn't even played pop warner can analyze a defensive scheme better than a 31 year veteran coach.....

 

[peppersquad]

Roy has been my favorite player on this team for the last 5 years....

But as long as he is playing DB on this team, the secondary will ALWAYS be a liabilty...

Solution..

Draft a safety like Kenny Phillips with one of your first round picks to replace Roy in the Next couple of years...

I defend Roy all the time but he reacts to slow while the ball is in the air.

Exactly...


Roy has become the single biggest liabilty to this team IMO.

 

[Rack]

...you know the one where he blitzes up the middle directly into a lineman making sure he gets himself blocked. Actually, there was a different twist on it in the new scheme. He blitzes directly into a lineman, stops, then starts backpedaling into coverage. The twist makes sure he doesn't get to the QB and also is unable to get back far enough to cover anyone. This drove me crazy last year and looks like it will be more of the same.

Yes cuz blitzes are suppose to work perfectly every time.


Incase you didn't notice, not many of the other guys were getting through on their blitzes either.

 

[RxMan]

6th season, 3rd defense.....

I love the keyboard coaching the internet has brought us. Any joe that hasn't even played pop warner can analyze a defensive scheme better than a 31 year veteran coach.....

Do you think other players don't face similiar scheme changes every other year? Look around the NFL. I guess that can work as an excuse though. There are many others that can be brought up as well.

I'm not too critical of the scheme. Tell me. What exactly is our veteran coach hoping happens on that middle blitz? Is Roy supposed to put is hands out and make contact and then stop? That would be an interesting new techinique. One I never learned in my playing days.

 

[NickZepp]

Exactly...


Roy has become the single biggest liabilty to this team IMO.

No the front 7 is a bigger liability. As long as they play like that we'll look bad on D even if we have 4 hall of famers back there.

 

[Doomsday101]

...you know the one where he blitzes up the middle directly into a lineman making sure he gets himself blocked. Actually, there was a different twist on it in the new scheme. He blitzes directly into a lineman, stops, then starts backpedaling into coverage. The twist makes sure he doesn't get to the QB and also is unable to get back far enough to cover anyone. This drove me crazy last year and looks like it will be more of the same.

Why would think Phillips would get rid of the safety blitz? Yes Roy played bad last night as did many others on defense but Dallas is not going to get rid of the safety blitz

 

[RxMan]

All we need to do is spend more draft picks next year on the defensive side of the ball.

 

[Rack]

4. Roy Williams was suppose to be proving support on 3 passing TDs and was late getting there on 2 of them and out of position on the 3rd.

Granted hes not a COVER safety but hell I wouldnt mind him being a safety every once in a while. He isnt even adequate in coverage.

I hope you aren't thinking he was suppose to provide help on the first TD cuz John Madden was wrong to blame Roy on that one.

 

[Bach]

Did u see him stop taht tub o lard QB last nite?


ROY!11!!111!

 

[cleverusername]

6th season, 3rd defense.....

I love the keyboard coaching the internet has brought us. Any joe that hasn't even played pop warner can analyze a defensive scheme better than a 31 year veteran coach.....

Hey now! I was Pop warner rookie of the year seven times. I played every postition but QB and S.

And in High school " If coach woulda put me in, I coulda gone pro."

"Ohhhh, man I wish I could go back in time. I'd take state. "

 

[DallasEast]

I've defended him to the very end , but I can't do it anymore . Obviously he's poor at best in coverage . The few Ints. he grabs a year are usually off tipped balls and floaters . It's not like he's jumping routes ! I realize he wasn't drafted to be a cover safety , but he's become anemic against the run as well . No plays made behind the line of scrimage , no more crushing hits , and at least once a game he gets flat run over like Shockey did to him last night .

I'm not on the Roy sucks bandwagon , and I don't belive he needs to be traded . I do however think he needs to be situational player who comes in on short yardage plays . Personally I'd like to see Hamlin slide up to SS and play Watkins a little more at FS .

My hope is that he's just been a little slow to adjust to the new scheme and will return to the dominant force he once was . With Ferguson lost for the season , we've never needed the "old" Roy so badly !

BLUE TEXT: Viable option which could help the team this season. It probably won't happen, but it is a realistic one. That's the first one on this thread...

 

[RxMan]

Yes cuz blitzes are suppose to work perfectly every time.


Incase you didn't notice, not many of the other guys were getting through on their blitzes either.

My point is Roy doesn't even attempt to get by anyone. He is SEEKING contact and STOPPING. Let me see if I can load up the plays I am talking about. He stops at the line and shuffles his feet. In the past he would have at least tried to blow the lineman back on his ***.

 

[Cochese]

Why has Roy turned into an ankle tackler?

 

[dallasfaniac]

I'm not too critical of the scheme. Tell me. What exactly is our veteran coach hoping happens on that middle blitz? Is Roy supposed to put is hands out and make contact and then stop? That would be an interesting new techinique. One I never learned in my playing days.

What are Roys responsibilites on the middle blitz? Can you say for certain? What happens if he middle blitzes, it's all clogged up and then the RB wiggles out to the flats? Does he continue blitzing up the middle? Maybe his assignments are to key the RB. If the RB stays in the block, then go after the QB, if he goes out then cover him. But, I don't know and neither does anyone else sitting at their keyboards right now. All I see are a bunch of guys that just want to complain and lump everything on one or two guys because they make money or something....

 

[Rack]

My point is Roy doesn't even attempt to get by anyone. He is SEEKING contact and STOPPING. Let me see if I can load up the plays I am talking about. He stops at the line and shuffles his feet. In the past he would have at least tried to blow the lineman back on his ***.

He tried that once last night. Just cuz he wasn't successful at it, doesn't mean he didn't try.


He tried it last night, but the 300+ lb offensive lineman won the battle. Imagine that.

 

[Dallas]

I LOVE ME SOME ROY WILLIAMS !!!!

 

[gbrittain]

I am like a lot of you, I can no longer defend Roy Williams. Until proven otherwise (I hope I am), Roy Williams is not getting it done.

I am not saying that he is through. I am not saying he should be traded. I am saying as of right now he is an average safety at best.

I would love nothing more than this thread to get thrown back in my face and be forced to eat some crow.