The Roy Williams Trade Makes Me Want to Puke

[TellerMorrow34]

I recommend taking 20 sleeping pills and chasing it with a gallon of Chlorox

LOL. That might be considered a little harsh but I couldn't help but laugh.

Yeah, like Jerry was able to see into the future & see Joey get hurt & miss the entire season.

yeah I love how everyone hates on that trade like it was all Galloways fault. First off he blew out his knee cause our stupid coaching staff still had him playing in the 4th quarter of a game we were getting absolutely killed in and lost him for that entire first year.

Then that same year we lost Troy Aikman so the rest of Galloways career here he played with piss poor QB play. But no one ever seems to want to remember that part of it all. It's just easier to make moronic statements like the post that started this thread.

 

[Disturbed]

Your issues -

(1) You don't like RW from UT.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. He is young and talented. I think the trade is more for the future. My opinion is that he will change your mind over time.

(2) HC is soft and weak
Partly Agree. Lack of accountability in the coaching ranks (Bruce Read & Brian Stewart). And the lack of leadership and accountability from the players. Too many whinners - Greg Ellis & safety Roy Williams...

(3) Offensive Line is weak and all talk no action
I agree. Since the second half of last year I would have to agree with you on this one.

4) An underperforming defense
I agree. Our defense is way too passive. We have a lot of talent that is not being used due to the scheme and game planning --- wake up Brian Stewart.

 

[Eskimo]

But I do disagree with you on the concerns up front on offense. If there is any concern with this offensive line, I think it's that it, like the rest of the team, became lazy in recent weeks. Plus, it's dinged with Flozell's arm and Kosier out. I don't particularly think any player needs to be replaced, as we've seen that unit dominate. It's just a matter of -- as it is for this entire team -- the players playing up to their ability and not coasting.

I will agree that a few times this year the OL has looked very good - GB, Philly and Cleveland. However, they were terrible against Washington and Arizona. You do rightly point to injuries as playing a role here, but I would point out the main culprit is a lack of quality depth due to a combination of us never putting a high priority on OL (this goes back to the start of the Jerry Jones era). Combine that with many misses on first and second day picks and poor player development and we find ourselves in a position we are in now.

We gave away a 5th rounder for a vet who can't beat out Cory Proctor.

We have to start Cory Proctor who is doing a good imitation of Torrin Tucker as a guard.

We also have a one-armed Flozell Adams out there getting Romo killed because the coaching staff is too scared to put in any of his backups - maybe a one-armed Flo is better than anyone else we have if Proctor is the best of the bunch - I don't know because none of them ever get on the field to face real NFL competition but I am not overly optimistic about their potential.

This is what happens when the lifeblood of a football team - the linemen are not developed. The way to develop them is to bring in a good coach (done) and continue to draft them in bunches. Of course, this strategy will only work if you have a bunch of extra picks to work with which we had until Jerry started trading them away.

I really do think we are beginning to lose our way as a franchise.

If RW11 helps to bring a SB this year, then I think we would all agree the trade was a good one. If we fall short, I would argue that trade was shortsighted and robbed us of picks we needed to use to address areas of weakness instead of adding more glitz to the offense.

 

[mv09]

Anyone who likes Roy Williams is a UT homer and that's all there is to it. He has no burst! He has no game!

Im an Aggie and Love this Deal

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Wow, stop already... This was a very nice trade for Dallas, 26 year old WR who is about to reach his prime and loves Dallas, come on now.

 

[RainMan]

I will agree that a few times this year the OL has looked very good - GB, Philly and Cleveland. However, they were terrible against Washington and Arizona. You do rightly point to injuries as playing a role here, but I would point out the main culprit is a lack of quality depth due to a combination of us never putting a high priority on OL (this goes back to the start of the Jerry Jones era). Combine that with many misses on first and second day picks and poor player development and we find ourselves in a position we are in now.

We gave away a 5th rounder for a vet who can't beat out Cory Proctor.

We have to start Cory Proctor who is doing a good imitation of Torrin Tucker as a guard.

We also have a one-armed Flozell Adams out there getting Romo killed because the coaching staff is too scared to put in any of his backups - maybe a one-armed Flo is better than anyone else we have if Proctor is the best of the bunch - I don't know because none of them ever get on the field to face real NFL competition but I am not overly optimistic about their potential.

This is what happens when the lifeblood of a football team - the linemen are not developed. The way to develop them is to bring in a good coach (done) and continue to draft them in bunches. Of course, this strategy will only work if you have a bunch of extra picks to work with which we had until Jerry started trading them away.

I really do think we are beginning to lose our way as a franchise.

If RW11 helps to bring a SB this year, then I think we would all agree the trade was a good one. If we fall short, I would argue that trade was shortsighted and robbed us of picks we needed to use to address areas of weakness instead of adding more glitz to the offense.

But I don't think our lack of OL development is due to a lack of trying. Weren't Peterman, Rogers, Free and Marten all top 3-round picks (or was one of them a fourth?) in recent memory? You could say we need to continue drafting them (which we do, due to our misses) but how many teams spend a top 3 pick every year on an OL?

I think the planned starting five is about as strong as it gets. But I entirely agree with you our depth up front is lacking and that we're not situated to handle injuries, which is a major problem. Again, I credit this to four flops on high picks as opposed to us just ignoring the position.

Same reason our linebacker depth is lacking (Carpenter, Spencer), our DL depth is lacking (Spears, Hatcher).

Now, on the flip side, I would argue the reason we have struggled to develop young WRs is because we simply refuse to draft them high.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I thought Jerry had learned his lesson with the Joey Galloway fiasco. I CANNOT BELIEVE he did this. Anyone who likes Roy Williams is a UT homer and that's all there is to it. He has no burst! He has no game!

***? We couldn't have landed Boldin for a friggin' first, third, and sixth rounder?!?!

These are the types of deals that can be a team's undoing. I actually think Jerry may have it in his mind that Roy Williams is going to become our dominant #1 after Owens retires. Ridiculous. He is gangly and slow and cannot get any separation whatsoever. And when he is lucky enough to see some daylight (likely because the corner tripped over his own two feet), he drops balls faster than anyone.

Let me put it this way. Our lame *** safety Roy Williams can cover our new Roy Williams one-on-one any day of the week if that tells you something.

Here's what we really need...

1) A head coach who isn't as soft as Flozell's midsection. The penalties, the ridiculously awful special teams, the total lack of fire. All Wade and his "I want to be everyone's best friend" routine.

2) A ****ing offensive line that actually gives a damn. Thanks for letting us know that you're going to do better, Bigg Davis. But as has been the case with this team all too often over the last couple of years, their talk is worthless, just PLAY SOME ****ING BALL!!!

3) A defense that comes close to playing up to their ability. Again, a lot of this is on Wade. Newsflash: Our defense SUCKS at every level!!

4) And one more newsflash: Last year's team would kick the living bejeezus out of this year's team. Know that.

3)

yawn.....

 

[PullMyFinger]

I thought Jerry had learned his lesson with the Joey Galloway fiasco. I CANNOT BELIEVE he did this. Anyone who likes Roy Williams is a UT homer and that's all there is to it. He has no burst! He has no game!

***? We couldn't have landed Boldin for a friggin' first, third, and sixth rounder?!?!

These are the types of deals that can be a team's undoing. I actually think Jerry may have it in his mind that Roy Williams is going to become our dominant #1 after Owens retires. Ridiculous. He is gangly and slow and cannot get any separation whatsoever. And when he is lucky enough to see some daylight (likely because the corner tripped over his own two feet), he drops balls faster than anyone.

Let me put it this way. Our lame *** safety Roy Williams can cover our new Roy Williams one-on-one any day of the week if that tells you something.

Here's what we really need...

1) A head coach who isn't as soft as Flozell's midsection. The penalties, the ridiculously awful special teams, the total lack of fire. All Wade and his "I want to be everyone's best friend" routine.

2) A ****ing offensive line that actually gives a damn. Thanks for letting us know that you're going to do better, Bigg Davis. But as has been the case with this team all too often over the last couple of years, their talk is worthless, just PLAY SOME ****ING BALL!!!

3) A defense that comes close to playing up to their ability. Again, a lot of this is on Wade. Newsflash: Our defense SUCKS at every level!!

4) And one more newsflash: Last year's team would kick the living bejeezus out of this year's team. Know that.

3)

Get a clue.

 

[juck]

RW11 is a very good WR in the form of Keyshawn type.He is a possesion WR,he said that himself.We will still need to find a field stretcher to groom when TO is gone.RW11 is no burner by any sense of the word.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

RW11 is a very good WR in the form of Keyshawn type.He is a possesion WR,he said that himself.We will still need to find a field stretcher to groom when TO is gone.RW11 is no burner by any sense of the word.

Look at his YPC averages. He is a deep threat. Or at least he can be if hes got his head on straight.

 

[2233boys]

I thought Jerry had learned his lesson with the Joey Galloway fiasco. I CANNOT BELIEVE he did this. Anyone who likes Roy Williams is a UT homer and that's all there is to it. He has no burst! He has no game!

***? We couldn't have landed Boldin for a friggin' first, third, and sixth rounder?!?!

These are the types of deals that can be a team's undoing. I actually think Jerry may have it in his mind that Roy Williams is going to become our dominant #1 after Owens retires. Ridiculous. He is gangly and slow and cannot get any separation whatsoever. And when he is lucky enough to see some daylight (likely because the corner tripped over his own two feet), he drops balls faster than anyone.

Let me put it this way. Our lame *** safety Roy Williams can cover our new Roy Williams one-on-one any day of the week if that tells you something.

Here's what we really need...

1) A head coach who isn't as soft as Flozell's midsection. The penalties, the ridiculously awful special teams, the total lack of fire. All Wade and his "I want to be everyone's best friend" routine.

2) A ****ing offensive line that actually gives a damn. Thanks for letting us know that you're going to do better, Bigg Davis. But as has been the case with this team all too often over the last couple of years, their talk is worthless, just PLAY SOME ****ING BALL!!!

3) A defense that comes close to playing up to their ability. Again, a lot of this is on Wade. Newsflash: Our defense SUCKS at every level!!

4) And one more newsflash: Last year's team would kick the living bejeezus out of this year's team. Know that.

3)

1 through 3 spot on.

 

[burmafrd]

In this age of FA you keep a player for 5-7 years max. Roy is 26 so we will keep him about as long as we would a draft choice. Admittedly he is probably going to cost more then anything other then a top 10 pick but then he was a TOP 5 PICK. SO if we had drafted him we would have paid him about the same. AND WE KNOW HE CAN PLAY. WHICH is NOT what you KNOW about a DRAFT CHOICE.

So as regards the Draft choice we were NOT going to get that kind of talent without trading up and using other picks.


SO from a CAP stand point and a DRAFT stand point this trade is fine.

If we were drafting say 18 or so what would it take to trade up to the top 5?

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

What amounts to a very late 1st & 3rd and moving down about 15 spots in the 6-7th round doesn't seem very absorbent for one of the top young WRs in the entire NFL.

 

[Primetime0201]

I thought Jerry had learned his lesson with the Joey Galloway fiasco. I CANNOT BELIEVE he did this. Anyone who likes Roy Williams is a UT homer and that's all there is to it. He has no burst! He has no game!

***? We couldn't have landed Boldin for a friggin' first, third, and sixth rounder?!?!

These are the types of deals that can be a team's undoing. I actually think Jerry may have it in his mind that Roy Williams is going to become our dominant #1 after Owens retires. Ridiculous. He is gangly and slow and cannot get any separation whatsoever. And when he is lucky enough to see some daylight (likely because the corner tripped over his own two feet), he drops balls faster than anyone.

Let me put it this way. Our lame *** safety Roy Williams can cover our new Roy Williams one-on-one any day of the week if that tells you something.

Here's what we really need...

1) A head coach who isn't as soft as Flozell's midsection. The penalties, the ridiculously awful special teams, the total lack of fire. All Wade and his "I want to be everyone's best friend" routine.

2) A ****ing offensive line that actually gives a damn. Thanks for letting us know that you're going to do better, Bigg Davis. But as has been the case with this team all too often over the last couple of years, their talk is worthless, just PLAY SOME ****ING BALL!!!

3) A defense that comes close to playing up to their ability. Again, a lot of this is on Wade. Newsflash: Our defense SUCKS at every level!!

4) And one more newsflash: Last year's team would kick the living bejeezus out of this year's team. Know that.

3)

1. We still have 8 picks left.
2. We get a pick back from the Titans.
3. We will get at least 2 picks for Jones and Reeves.
4. Our picks will be bottom of each round if this team lives up to it's potential. So we really gave up 2nd, 4th and 7th round talent for a 1st round talent and a 7th round pick. Basically a 2nd and 4th for a talent you won't find in the 1st this year.
5. We have an eventual replacement for T.O.
6. We have a backup plan if T.O is injured.
7. We take heat off T.O (No more double/triple coverage).
8. We take heat off Witten (No more double coverage).
9. We take heat off Barber/Jone/Choice (Not so much 8 in the box).
10. We take heat off of Romo (Not so much blitzing).
11. Crayton can go back to the slot where he is actually effective.

 

[Clove]

I thought Jerry had learned his lesson with the Joey Galloway fiasco. I CANNOT BELIEVE he did this. Anyone who likes Roy Williams is a UT homer and that's all there is to it. He has no burst! He has no game!

***? We couldn't have landed Boldin for a friggin' first, third, and sixth rounder?!?!

These are the types of deals that can be a team's undoing. I actually think Jerry may have it in his mind that Roy Williams is going to become our dominant #1 after Owens retires. Ridiculous. He is gangly and slow and cannot get any separation whatsoever. And when he is lucky enough to see some daylight (likely because the corner tripped over his own two feet), he drops balls faster than anyone.

Let me put it this way. Our lame *** safety Roy Williams can cover our new Roy Williams one-on-one any day of the week if that tells you something.

Here's what we really need...

1) A head coach who isn't as soft as Flozell's midsection. The penalties, the ridiculously awful special teams, the total lack of fire. All Wade and his "I want to be everyone's best friend" routine.

2) A ****ing offensive line that actually gives a damn. Thanks for letting us know that you're going to do better, Bigg Davis. But as has been the case with this team all too often over the last couple of years, their talk is worthless, just PLAY SOME ****ING BALL!!!

3) A defense that comes close to playing up to their ability. Again, a lot of this is on Wade. Newsflash: Our defense SUCKS at every level!!

4) And one more newsflash: Last year's team would kick the living bejeezus out of this year's team. Know that.

3)

This post makes me want to

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[Beast_from_East]

I thought Jerry had learned his lesson with the Joey Galloway fiasco. I CANNOT BELIEVE he did this. Anyone who likes Roy Williams is a UT homer and that's all there is to it. He has no burst! He has no game!

***? We couldn't have landed Boldin for a friggin' first, third, and sixth rounder?!?!

These are the types of deals that can be a team's undoing. I actually think Jerry may have it in his mind that Roy Williams is going to become our dominant #1 after Owens retires. Ridiculous. He is gangly and slow and cannot get any separation whatsoever. And when he is lucky enough to see some daylight (likely because the corner tripped over his own two feet), he drops balls faster than anyone.

Let me put it this way. Our lame *** safety Roy Williams can cover our new Roy Williams one-on-one any day of the week if that tells you something.

Here's what we really need...

1) A head coach who isn't as soft as Flozell's midsection. The penalties, the ridiculously awful special teams, the total lack of fire. All Wade and his "I want to be everyone's best friend" routine.

2) A ****ing offensive line that actually gives a damn. Thanks for letting us know that you're going to do better, Bigg Davis. But as has been the case with this team all too often over the last couple of years, their talk is worthless, just PLAY SOME ****ING BALL!!!

3) A defense that comes close to playing up to their ability. Again, a lot of this is on Wade. Newsflash: Our defense SUCKS at every level!!

4) And one more newsflash: Last year's team would kick the living bejeezus out of this year's team. Know that.

3)

Dude, put the shrooms down.

Roy Williams is a top 5 receiver in this league, the freaking Eagles were trying to outbid us for him.

So I guess that the Eagles are UT homers also using your logic?

The Lions themselves said they had not 1, not 2, but multiple teams inquire about Roy at the deadline. So I guess all those teams are UT homers also??

Could it be that the paid professionals that do this for a freaking living on multiple teams probably know a little bit more about the talent level and impact of a player than yourself............you think?????

 

[StevenOtero]

Clueless

For sure. Remember the losing seasons when there weren't as many clueless members? Now so many bandwagon fans are on here that don't have a clue.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Man are you clueless.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I thought Jerry had learned his lesson with the Joey Galloway fiasco. I CANNOT BELIEVE he did this. Anyone who likes Roy Williams is a UT homer and that's all there is to it. He has no burst! He has no game!

***? We couldn't have landed Boldin for a friggin' first, third, and sixth rounder?!?!

These are the types of deals that can be a team's undoing. I actually think Jerry may have it in his mind that Roy Williams is going to become our dominant #1 after Owens retires. Ridiculous. He is gangly and slow and cannot get any separation whatsoever. And when he is lucky enough to see some daylight (likely because the corner tripped over his own two feet), he drops balls faster than anyone.

Let me put it this way. Our lame *** safety Roy Williams can cover our new Roy Williams one-on-one any day of the week if that tells you something.

Here's what we really need...

1) A head coach who isn't as soft as Flozell's midsection. The penalties, the ridiculously awful special teams, the total lack of fire. All Wade and his "I want to be everyone's best friend" routine.

2) A ****ing offensive line that actually gives a damn. Thanks for letting us know that you're going to do better, Bigg Davis. But as has been the case with this team all too often over the last couple of years, their talk is worthless, just PLAY SOME ****ING BALL!!!

3) A defense that comes close to playing up to their ability. Again, a lot of this is on Wade. Newsflash: Our defense SUCKS at every level!!

4) And one more newsflash: Last year's team would kick the living bejeezus out of this year's team. Know that.

3)

Let me guess. You're an OU fan. :laugh2:

 

[dmq]

The thing is, until Roy plays a game for us not one person here will know if this was a good trade or not.