The "Russell Wilson" window

[AsthmaField]

I can't argue with anything in this post. I just dislike the absolutes, the "we have a new philosophy, haven't you seen it" arguement from some in here (not you).

I've been saying all thread, let's see what happens with this new team and new approach, and for me, hope it includes an impact signing for our very needy D

Yeah, I hope they adjust too.

 

[Trouty]

I'm done, y'all have fun. I've said all I possibly can on this, and I hate arguing in circles.

 

[JDSmith]

I've been saying all thread, let's see what happens with this new team and new approach, and for me, hope it includes an impact signing for our very needy D

I'd love to sign one, I'm just not married to the idea because our needs may not mesh with what's available in free agency, and I'm inclined to believe our front office would look more favorably on signing a couple of really solid role players for the defense rather than one big 'impact' player. If you roll the dice on 3 guys playing solid to good football, the odds better than betting on one guy (who another team didn't want) playing outstanding football.

 

[waldoputty]

Yeah, I hope they adjust too.

there is hope.
hardy is existence proof.
there was also talk of a multiyear extension in the beginning of 2015 when Hardy was playing well in the nascar

 

[JDSmith]

I've always said smart. And part of your post says what I've been saying lol

I thought you were done. You just can't help yourself.

 

[AsthmaField]

and I hate arguing in circles.

That's what football fans do.

 

[Trouty]

see my post #75

I did, and I'll defer to @xwalker @bkight13 or @AdamJT13

 

[Trouty]

That's what football fans do.

Touché, my man, Asthma

 

[LifetimeBoysFan]

I think I may be in the minority on this one. I don't see 5M after dead cap money as worth letting Romo go. I know he's going along with things as he said in his presser. Sure he wants to start too. However, I can't figure out how we can come out ahead on trading him with all the dead money and the minimal cap room we gain. Plus we'd have to turn around and use that "savings" on a backup anyhow. Unless we are just doing a camp body type backup, which I think after 2014 they know better than to go that route. We already have a unique situation anyhow, so what if we have our backup paid like a starter and our franchise QB paid like a backup. Unless Romo goes the way of Favre and wants to pout about it, I can't see how it works out for both parties to trade him.

 

[dallasdave]

I'm done, y'all have fun. I've said all I possibly can on this, and I hate arguing in circles.

 

[Trouty]

I thought you were done. You just can't help yourself.

I'm stubborn, darnit. My boy, JD

 

[dallasdave]

I did, and I'll defer to @xwalker @bkight13 or @AdamJT13

Look out for the BEARS

 

[waldoputty]

I did, and I'll defer to @xwalker @bkight13 or @AdamJT13

BK said the cap calculations were correct but he does not think the team will do it.

 

[Cowboysfan917]

Realistically, Dak wants his money as soon as possible and 3rd year gets paid.

As for Romo, he's going to want to start somewhere. I almost think he will get cut to pursue that opportunity. If Jerry tries to trade and keep him out of the NFC: Broncos, Chiefs, Texans, and Jets are all possibilities. Some better than others and some would be surprises but options none the less.

If he does get cut, I think the list opens up to options at: Vikings or Cardinals

 

[dallasdave]

Do tell, how is our edge rushing? As "it stands now"

Are you sitting here and telling me that a splash edge rusher wouldn't be of value to our team and our chances next season?

 

[dallasdave]

I'd let Church/Carr walk and see where Mo/Wilcox are in price range/length of contract. The first just seem like liabilities in pass coverage bc of a lack of NFL speed and would go with the yungins if possible. Wilcox is showing strides this season especially in landing some clean shots in the secondary to set "some" tone. Look to FA for the other corner and draft one in the top 3 rounds and we aren't looking as ugly as it was. Agree 100% on RE in FA, or even top LE and moving Lawrence if the pickings are that slim. Heck, even NE will take a shot from time to time; trade/FA.

 

[AsthmaField]

there is hope.
hardy is existence proof.
there was also talk of a multiyear extension in the beginning of 2015 when Hardy was playing well in the nascar

Yep. However, there is an additional layer of scrutiny there that any Free Agent will have to pass: High character. The Hardy signing taught a harsh lesson to the Dallas Front Office, and right or wrong, I think they put a good bit of the blame for last year's collapse on a decay in character that occurred in the locker room.

A guy like Hardy wouldn't be signed in this upcoming off season. As a matter of fact, I don't think a guy who has any character issues will be signed... much less a guy like Hardy.

So, like you, I see Hardy as proof that they'll pay for the right pass rusher when they think they're a contender. However, that signing also makes me think that it'll be more difficult than ever to find the right guy to spend on.

I tend to agree with JDSmith on this: two or three mid level defensive players might be the way they go in order to improve their pass rush (along with the draft of course). I see that as much, much more likely to occur.

And frankly, that would be a huge improvement over the bargain bin shopping they did this past off season.

 

[dallasdave]

How can we have the cake and eat it too?

Salary cap is no problem - $10M/yr annual rise until 2020 - unprecedented.
Massive cap manipulation is possible as a result.
For example, TSmith's and TFred contracts are built for annual restructuring for creating cap space.

Here is a simple example for free agent X with a 50M 5 year contract and $9M signing bonus:
Year ------Year 1---------------Year 2-------------Year 3-----------Year 4----------Year 5
Base -------$1M ----------------$10M--------------$10M-----------$10M-----------$10M
Bonus------$2M ----------------$2M--------------$2M-------------$2M-------------$2M
Cap hit----$3M-----------------$12M-------------$12M-----------$12M-----------$12M

In year 2, to open up cap space, you restructure the contract with a $8M restructure bonus and while reducing year 2 salary to $2M:
Year -----Year 2-----------Year 3-----------Year 4----------Year 5
Base -----$2M------------$10M------------$10M-----------$10M
Bonus----$2M -------------$2M-------------$2M------------$2M
Restru---$2M--------------$2M-------------$2M------------$2M
Cap hit---$6M------------$14M------------$14M-----------$14M

You can say $6M is pretty big for a restructured contract. The reason it is $6M is that I did not cut the base salary to $1M because the math is more cumbersome. It could easily be $5M. Cap experts can probably do better also, but this is my little attempt.

This type of contract is typical, and can be used to resign Mo or replacement FA CB, TWill, DT Mcclain, Church, Wilcox and even Leary. The year 1 cap hit for these could be in the range of: Mo/replacement ($3M), TWill ($2M), Mcclain ($2M), Church ($1.5M), Wilcox ($1.5M) and Leary ($2M), totaling $12M. The year 2 cap hit for these could be in the range of: Mo/replacement ($5M), TWill ($3.5M), Mcclain ($3.5M), Church ($2M), Wilcox ($2M) an Leary ($3.5M), totaling $17.5M.

You can also argue that as you keep restructuring, the $ keep rising and sooner or later it will blow up. That is where the $10M/yr annual cap rise comes in, as well as Romo/Witten contracts coming off the books.

WOW

 

[Trouty]

BK said the cap calculations were correct but he does not think the team will do it.

I haven't talked to him about it in a few weeks, but he's a proponent of a key signing (he was in the past, at least) and that's what I'm arguing, cap implications are a narrative I haven't touched. Like I said, as it pertains to the latter, I'll defer to the aforementioned posters I mentioned in my previous post.

 

[dallasdave]

How can we have the cake and eat it too?

Salary cap is no problem - $10M/yr annual rise until 2020 - unprecedented.
Massive cap manipulation is possible as a result.
For example, TSmith's and TFred contracts are built for annual restructuring for creating cap space.

Here is a simple example for free agent X with a 50M 5 year contract and $9M signing bonus:
Year ------Year 1---------------Year 2-------------Year 3-----------Year 4----------Year 5
Base -------$1M ----------------$10M--------------$10M-----------$10M-----------$10M
Bonus------$2M ----------------$2M--------------$2M-------------$2M-------------$2M
Cap hit----$3M-----------------$12M-------------$12M-----------$12M-----------$12M

In year 2, to open up cap space, you restructure the contract with a $8M restructure bonus and while reducing year 2 salary to $2M:
Year -----Year 2-----------Year 3-----------Year 4----------Year 5
Base -----$2M------------$10M------------$10M-----------$10M
Bonus----$2M -------------$2M-------------$2M------------$2M
Restru---$2M--------------$2M-------------$2M------------$2M
Cap hit---$6M------------$14M------------$14M-----------$14M

You can say $6M is pretty big for a restructured contract. The reason it is $6M is that I did not cut the base salary to $1M because the math is more cumbersome. It could easily be $5M. Cap experts can probably do better also, but this is my little attempt.

This type of contract is typical, and can be used to resign Mo or replacement FA CB, TWill, DT Mcclain, Church, Wilcox and even Leary. The year 1 cap hit for these could be in the range of: Mo/replacement ($3M), TWill ($2M), Mcclain ($2M), Church ($1.5M), Wilcox ($1.5M) and Leary ($2M), totaling $12M. The year 2 cap hit for these could be in the range of: Mo/replacement ($5M), TWill ($3.5M), Mcclain ($3.5M), Church ($2M), Wilcox ($2M) an Leary ($3.5M), totaling $17.5M.

You can also argue that as you keep restructuring, the $ keep rising and sooner or later it will blow up. That is where the $10M/yr annual cap rise comes in, as well as Romo/Witten contracts coming off the books.

Sign Gronk