The simple truth of Dak Prescott

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I seriously care for none of what you posted. All Dak has ever done is say the right thing and act the right way. Now all of a sudden the issue is the length of his contract (rumor). Cowboys want 5 years and he wants 4...again, rumor. If this is, in fact, true, why does Dak want less years? I thought this was where he wanted to be? In the end, it's all about your actions and currently his actions seem to be different from what he's been saying since he's put the Star on...

Honestly, the whole thing is boring. A rich owner disagreeing with a rich athlete about a few million when they are both making millions. I think the NFL needs a year off and to see that the fans can and will find something else to spend their time and money on. It's getting to the point where who wants to $500 on nosebleeds, $10 hotdogs and $10 beers. I'll go ride my Harley instead...
funny, all he has done is say the right thing, act the right way, be a leader, win games, improve..... and somehow that's not enough....

now as for these rumors, that's been reported by several, like adam Schefter and others...
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...s-qb-in-gray-areas-amid-contract-negotiations

https://247sports.com/Article/Dalla...ations-Jeff-Darlington-update-ESPN-146779893/

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/m...s-contract-negotiations-year-contract-holdup/

but somehow you know more being on this board, than those inside the NFL circles...OK then...

Dak wants less years, because he is betting on himself..like he did last year not signing a deal...he wants to hit FA sooner, expecting salary cap to go up, expecting mahomes to reset the QB market, so he can get to the next contract sooner. its not about where he wants to be....he wants to negotiate in such a way to benefit him and his future....but I am sure you take offense to that...

you can go ride your Harley..... that maybe more fun.
 

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So many threads with wasted energy going around and round when none of that matters.

There are basic truths fans will simply have to come to grips with.

Dak Prescott will likely not earn less than 30M per year(AAV) at any point over the next 8 or 9 seasons. --as a side note Gary Myers was in Dallas before NY and his take was simply false and silly but pandering to Giants fans makes sense in that market. He was second rate here and that has continued on in NYC. You can safely say stupid things that will never be dis-proven and Dak isn't going to be a Free Agent anytime soon to make Gary apologize for his pandering.

Dak Prescott will almost assuredly end his career as the all-time Dallas Cowboys passing leader. He averages almost 250 yards per game passing. That's significantly higher than Romo who was the best of anyone with 20+ starts. Dak was over 300 yards per game last year.

Dak Prescott will likely end up with at least the second most wins in Cowboys history. At this pace, 10 wins a season, he'd pass Tony Romo on his next deal be it 4 years or anything greater. Troy would take him 6 seasons, Roger 5. Troy only had 27 wins through 4 full NFL seasons. Dak is on a pace 13 wins ahead of that. Romo had 6 wins at this age.

Dak Prescott had holes in his game prior to 2019. He would get lazy with footwork and throw some inaccurate passes. He fumbled a bit too much. But 2019 showed a drastic improvement in those areas. And why not. He is using Tom Brady's personal QB coach for development. In 2019 he performed at a rate that was elite. He was a top 5 passer for 2019. His weapons and offense got better this off-season. Potentially markedly so.

Anyone with actual intellect has already grasped all these things. They are completely confused by the so very awful "Dak isn't good" takes. It is really hard to tell if the authors of those takes are trolls, just dumb as dirt, hurt Romo-stans or some other weird affliction. If you hold such a weird opinion perhaps ask yourself to which group you belong and see about removing yourself. Because you are talking out of your butt about our franchise QB.
The most ignorant part about questioning the intelligence of “Dak haters” is that we look at a total different set of stats and facts which the other side refuses to acknowledge. I read a five paragraph article yesterday that listed stat after stat and fact after fact showing why Dak is an average QB that is playing with more talent than anybody since Aikman. There is no need for me to list it here. It is not going to change any minds. To dismiss arguments that Dak is nothing but average is doesn’t make you smart. It makes you biased and close minded. The Dak supporters even go so far as to run down Cowboy greats like Aikman to attempt to build Dak up. How much intelligence does that show? Three Supper Bowl wins and a HOF career is something that Dak will never see. I doubt any future Dallas QB has that kind of career. Another point is that the Dak supporters think the dislike comes from Dak taking Romo’s place. Romo was done physically and if it wasn’t Dak it would have been somebody else taking his place.
 

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The most ignorant part about questioning the intelligence of “Dak haters” is that we look at a total different set of stats and facts which the other side refuses to acknowledge. I read a five paragraph article yesterday that listed stat after stat and fact after fact showing why Dak is an average QB that is playing with more talent than anybody since Aikman. There is no need for me to list it here. It is not going to change any minds. To dismiss arguments that Dak is nothing but average is doesn’t make you smart. It makes you biased and close minded. The Dak supporters even go so far as to run down Cowboy greats like Aikman to attempt to build Dak up. How much intelligence does that show? Three Supper Bowl wins and a HOF career is something that Dak will never see. I doubt any future Dallas QB has that kind of career. Another point is that the Dak supporters think the dislike comes from Dak taking Romo’s place. Romo was done physically and if it wasn’t Dak it would have been somebody else taking his place.

I don't want Dak gone. I just want the ability to build a team around him that will allow him and the rest to be successful. I don't believe you can do that if you pay him 40 for 4 years.
 

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Yeah, you are the one who should be talking about things like that on this board. I never asked you for anything and even if you provided it, which you wouldn't, I wouldn't trust it because I've caught you too many times. Proof are in the wins. Try and keep up.
I'm still waiting on you to make a salient point in my thread.

Wins was the basis for much of the OP.
Reading comprehension for the win.
Dallas is paying for a 26 year old who has averaged 10 wins a season over 4 years.
He's going to win a lot more games in Dallas for some reason much to the chagrin of the dummies.
 

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Thank you for saying what needs to be said and needs to be understood by so many of the Dak haters here. Even if they protest, they know in the back of their mind that you are right. So don't sweat these morons that think otherwise of Dak. We know the reality of the situation and it bodes well for the Cowboys future. Go Cowboys! :thumbup:
there are haters, Dak Haters, Lawrence Haters, Crawford Haters, Romo Haters, Zeke Haters, Smith Haters, LVE haters, Jones Haters, Heath Haters, Cooper Haters, on and on and on....usually the same group. they don't want to pay Dak, but wanted to trade for Jamal Adams and pay him (and give up multiple draft picks), they hated heath, but love players who don't make a lot...they want minimum paid players, but elite level play. if they don't get both, they just hate. anger and hate is their thing....
 

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The simple truth of Prescott is he's going to require a tilt to the O side with salary cap to give him the type O he needs because he is not a lift the O QB like some other QB's are.

This team has a heavy lean to the O side with 6 O players in the top 6 paid at their position and would have been 7 if Yosemite hadn't retired.

That is what any team that commits to a QB with his level of talent does and they're going to pay him like he's not that and he is exactly that. Stats are for the blind since they cannot see. Anyone that has watched him play knows he has a limited talent range and his inconsistencies are not going away.

That's fine if you can field a D good enough to help you contend but they've not done that. The D is their Achilles, along with the ST.

What's funny are the Daksters using his record as a QB only when that falls, they resort to his stats. Ain't stats great, the top 2 QBs in yardage last season didn't play a down of playoff ball. Just like the old days.
like which QBs? mahomes? Brady? Brees? those guys don't have elite players playing with them?
 

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I don't want Dak gone. I just want the ability to build a team around him that will allow him and the rest to be successful. I don't believe you can do that if you pay him 40 for 4 years.
He asked for 35m over 4 years.
Perhaps you need to keep up or at least not make up numbers.

If they franchise him all year then yup it'll likely be almost 40m per next off-season.
 

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"Anyone with actual intellect" lol That's voicing his opinion?


They played from behind the majority of the season. Everyone all enamored with skewed numbers! 4 TDS on that final week none the week before. what a show when you’re already sitting home. Pad those stats for the new contract and some will still talk about how amazing you are. It worked like a charm! Some internet tough guys even still use the term stan? lol That's hilarious!!
Troll alert....why were they playing from behind?..Dak opened the 1st Qtr with pick 6 or
Did Dallas have a defense?

Dak Hater,.....
 

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I like Dak more than many people here, but comparing his volume stats to past players is really worthless. Passing numbers have been steadily inflating since the late 1970s.

We also have no idea how long his career will be. He's been very durable SO FAR. That doesn't mean he'll play until he's 40+.
 

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I'm still waiting on you to make a salient point in my thread.

Wins was the basis for much of the OP.
Reading comprehension for the win.
Dallas is paying for a 26 year old who has averaged 10 wins a season over 4 years.
He's going to win a lot more games in Dallas for some reason much to the chagrin of the dummies.

LOL.... I hope you enjoy the wait. If it were made, you wouldn't admit it anyhow so I guess your stuck waiting.

Words like dummies and the rest of your BS, you can keep it. We don't need that from you. You aren't smarter then any of the rest JT. You just think you are.

Go ahead on, but the fact remains, if a 5K passing year only gets you 8-8, then something has to change and spending more money at QB won't help fix that IMO.
 

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The most ignorant part about questioning the intelligence of “Dak haters” is that we look at a total different set of stats and facts which the other side refuses to acknowledge. I read a five paragraph article yesterday that listed stat after stat and fact after fact showing why Dak is an average QB that is playing with more talent than anybody since Aikman. There is no need for me to list it here. It is not going to change any minds. To dismiss arguments that Dak is nothing but average is doesn’t make you smart. It makes you biased and close minded. The Dak supporters even go so far as to run down Cowboy greats like Aikman to attempt to build Dak up. How much intelligence does that show? Three Supper Bowl wins and a HOF career is something that Dak will never see. I doubt any future Dallas QB has that kind of career. Another point is that the Dak supporters think the dislike comes from Dak taking Romo’s place. Romo was done physically and if it wasn’t Dak it would have been somebody else taking his place.
:hammer::hammer::hammer:
 

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I get what you are saying, and I don't disagree that he has added a weapon and hopefully we will get more from the TE position, but that is still near term, and doesn't speak to weapons in a few years, or whether he will have any injury issues at some point, or will become less effective for any reason.

As for it not shocking anyone if he averaged 325 yards per game, I disagree. I would be surprised if he averages what he did last year. Aaron Rodgers only averaged 300 ypg once under McCarthy (the only time in his career), and he didn't have the same potential for a running game the Cowboys do. Rodgers was more in the 270 range. I would be thrilled with Dak being in that 270 range, coupled with a strong running game.

But all I'm really saying is it is too early to start talking about career accomplishments as if they are assured by the pace he started his career on. There are a lot of players that were on a HOF pace early in their careers that couldn't sustain it, Time is the only way to tell.
Not dismissing these points out of hand because some are fair.
BUT the game itself is passing for more yardage every year.
And Aaron Rodgers NEVER had weapons like this.
He was throwing to guys drafted outside the top 50 more the most part.
He had 1 guy drafted top 50 in 12 seasons.and that was Jordy Nelson who was a star there.

Dallas didn't pay Amari 20m per and draft a WR at 17 to not pass it.
They'll sling it.
275 wouldn't be bad at all but again 325 wouldn't be shocking.
Same OC, more aggressive Head Coach, better receiving weapons.

My point is Dak is VERY LIKELY to achieve these basic accomplishments.
These are not stretches or hard to get to.
These are you sign the deal you likely get these.
And this is the guy getting trashed by some weird segment of the "fan base".
Led by guys on TV and radio who are PAID to be foils and have these bad takes they don't even believe.
 

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I seriously care for none of what you posted. All Dak has ever done is say the right thing and act the right way. Now all of a sudden the issue is the length of his contract (rumor). Cowboys want 5 years and he wants 4...again, rumor. If this is, in fact, true, why does Dak want less years? I thought this was where he wanted to be? In the end, it's all about your actions and currently his actions seem to be different from what he's been saying since he's put the Star on...

Honestly, the whole thing is boring. A rich owner disagreeing with a rich athlete about a few million when they are both making millions. I think the NFL needs a year off and to see that the fans can and will find something else to spend their time and money on. It's getting to the point where who wants to $500 on nosebleeds, $10 hotdogs and $10 beers. I'll go ride my Harley instead...
Wow. I had to re-read this post. I have to say Thank You! Sometimes I forgot it is really a beautiful game that teaches so many life lessons.
The money side of Football (business) can really tear a team and fan base apart.

Thank you again. Hopefully the Billionaire Owner and Millionaire athlete can figure it out! Great take!

Ps. I do care for @jterrell content
 

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You don't know what he asked for and you don't know what was offered. What now?
Try following Jane Slater.
It isn't hard.

Playing stupid for the internet to try and wins arguments is literally the wreirdest flex of all time.

Go do some research.
 

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Try following Jane Slater.
It isn't hard.

Playing stupid for the internet to try and wins arguments is literally the wreirdest flex of all time.

Go do some research.

Well, it's worked for you all these years so it kinda surprises me that you would call it out as "wreirdest" of all time. Whatever......

Facts are facts and you, you are full of opinion. You don't know whats been offered or asked for. Neither does Slater and if she did, I've never seen it proven with anything remotely similar to facts.

Put up or shut up. If you have something that proves what has been asked for and what has been offered, post it. If not, then admit that you, like all the rest of us, don't know.
 

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So we are all clear here, wasn't the choice to play for "peanuts" his decision? Didn't the team try to restructure him and sign him to an extension early?

I don't know about you, but it's refreshing in todays NFL to have a QB who was arguable our best player finish out his contract and not hold out even though he way outplayed his initial deal.. The team tried to get him signed but as I said before, Dak wanted to prove he was worth more than what they were offering, and guess what? HE DID!
 
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