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HoleInTheRoof;2620985 said:
He took a public poll down because the majority of the voters didn't agree with him?

Why have a poll then? Just post your opinion and leave nothing to vote.
Why have a poll at all? If your point is to get people to agree to your movement, why put a dissenting voice (a.k.a. the poll) on the podium?

What purpose did that serve? To show that there is a differing opinion?

It was self defeating to do that. Regardless, I can't believe anyone thinks a billboard will have any effect at all.
 

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Hostile;2620991 said:
Why have a poll at all? If your point is to get people to agree to your movement, why put a dissenting voice (a.k.a. the poll) on the podium?

What purpose did that serve? To show that there is a differing opinion?

It was self defeating to do that. Regardless, I can't believe anyone thinks a billboard will have any effect at all.


Yea ..... but I heard you were just a mouth breather who sicked his forum on their poor puny one.


At least that is the fantasy they are using to feel relevant.

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DallasEast;2620980 said:
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Originally Posted by Iamtdg
I've taken the poll down. Those mental midgets were convoluting it. They run as a pack mob, with a mouth breather leading them. And, they are a huge pack.

I will repost a poll at a later date.


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Viva La Revolution....oh wait...time out guys...we will start the revolution again later...this time the revolution will not be televised or in the form of a poll.
 

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Hostile;2620991 said:
Why have a poll at all? If your point is to get people to agree to your movement, why put a dissenting voice (a.k.a. the poll) on the podium?

What purpose did that serve? To show that there is a differing opinion?

It was self defeating to do that.
Exactly.
Hostile;2620991 said:
Regardless, I can't believe anyone thinks a billboard will have any effect at all.
Don't you mean, "I can't believe anyone thinks that spending their own hard earned money on a billboard will have any effect at all"?

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BrAinPaiNt;2620995 said:
Viva La Revolution....oh wait...time out guys...we will start the revolution again later...this time the revolution will not be televised or in the form of a poll.
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zrinkill;2620993 said:
Yea ..... but I heard you were just a mouth breather who sicked his forum on their poor puny one.


At least that is the fantasy they are using to feel relevant.

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I didn't sick anybody on anyone. That forum has issues with me, not me with them. I just don't think it is a good idea. I'm sorry that my dissenting opinion hurts their precious feelings. But is the thread removed? No. Is their voice being squelched here? No. Do you think I don't know they like that it is being bumped and staying alive? It's our sheer numbers here that attracted this thread. Trust me on that.

I have no problem with them doing this. I just think it's a dumb idea and a waste of money. I said so when the idea was first introduced and at that time I had no earthly clue who was sponsoring the idea. It has nothing to do with the guys at that forum at all. In fact, I like and respect boozeman more than they do and he knows it.

They can say whatever they want and I am fine with this forum having this thread. If there are people here who want to support this by all means go ahead. But only a complete idiot would think that every fan is going to think this is a marvelous idea.

It isn't about agreeing with the job Jerry Jones does as GM. People can try and spin that all they want. I could be the biggest Jerry Jones basher on the forum and I would still think this is a useless way to spend money. This is head in the clouds stuff which is why my first post asked if the clouds were pretty. I don't mean to offend the OP, but according to some he plans to get banned from here today anyway.

Seems like a silly plan but I'm sure he'll get high fives and slaps on the back for his charge at the Zone windmill.
 

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Hostile;2621021 said:
I didn't sick anybody on anyone. That forum has issues with me, not me with them. I just don't think it is a good idea. I'm sorry that my dissenting opinion hurts their precious feelings. But is the thread removed? No. Is their voice being squelched here? No. Do you think I don't know they like that it is being bumped and staying alive? It's our sheer numbers here that attracted this thread. Trust me on that.

I have no problem with them doing this. I just think it's a dumb idea and a waste of money. I said so when the idea was first introduced and at that time I had no earthly clue who was sponsoring the idea. It has nothing to do with the guys at that forum at all. In fact, I like and respect boozeman more than they do and he knows it.

They can say whatever they want and I am fine with this forum having this thread. If there are people here who want to support this by all means go ahead. But only a complete idiot would think that every fan is going to think this is a marvelous idea.

It isn't about agreeing with the job Jerry Jones does as GM. People can try and spin that all they want. I could be the biggest Jerry Jones basher on the forum and I would still think this is a useless way to spend money. This is head in the clouds stuff which is why my first post asked if the clouds were pretty. I don't mean to offend the OP, but according to some he plans to get banned from here today anyway.

Seems like a silly plan but I'm sure he'll get high fives and slaps on the back for his charge at the Zone windmill.

In through the nose, out through the mouth...that should help you...mouth breather.
 

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See, these guys have not thought this through at all. They don't realize what they are doing, and they want people in today's economy to send them money for a cause that will fail before it even has a start?

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And, they are trying to compete with a billionair businessman? How ignorant is that?

Sure, I can understand some of Jerry's faults, but I'll be damned if I'm going to waste my time and money trying to fight him! It's kind of entertaining though...just to watch them fail...poor guys/gals.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;2621055 said:
In through the nose, out through the mouth...that should help you...mouth breather.
I'd rather be a mouth breather than to talk out of my ***.

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Originally Posted by Iamtdg
I've taken the poll down. Those mental midgets were convoluting it. They run as a pack mob, with a mouth breather leading them. And, they are a huge pack.

Please narrow it down. There are waaay too many candidates to choose from.
 

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I hate to tell you Don Quixote wannabes the truth, but there it is. Our GM is one of the few people doing his job.
He's done a passable job (this year) given the information presented to him. The problem is that information never comes from his own skills and imagination.

The hallmark of every perennial contender is the ability to identify and develop young talent (not talking about 1st round picks). To do that you must recognize the talent AND create an atmosphere that fosters growth of that talent. Jerry has not done this without Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells running the show. That's eleven years of struggling to develop talent.

Jerry doesn't have the foresight or talent as a personnel guy. He doesn't know how to evaluate players, hire coaches (he's had 6 in eighteen years), or create a proper system of checks and balances to prevent the Bobby Carpenter or Quincy Carter type decisions.

Jerry always needs someone else to do the real football part. The Dallas Cowboys deserve more from a GM than someone who delegates the meat of his own job and simply makes decisions from the reports of others.

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They don't instruct the QB to throw an INT at a crucial time in the game against the eventual Super Bowl Champion. They assemble the talent for the staff to go to war. Period.

What about creating a proper leadership and decision-making structure? Bill Parcells appears to have fixed that at least when it comes to running the draft (thank you), but the coaching structure has degenerated rapidly into a mess.

Wade Phillips had his OC and secondary coach decided for him by said owner/GM. Each taken in isolation, not a terrible thing, just unusual. But taken togther with Phillips' hand-selected defensive coordinator and special teams coaches being fired by the same guy and being the only head coach who's OC makes as much as he does-- it makes you wonder.

Phillips has the appearance of someone who's been neutered as a decision-maker, and as a result the organization reeks of dysfunction. That's the perception, and perception has a way of becoming reality very quickly if enough people (especially the players) believe it.

Players stop trusting the coaches and the coaches aren't strong enough to halt that perception. Only Jerry is, and that's the way he likes it.

Jerry claims to have the interests of the Dallas Cowboys at heart, but he's ultimately made the franchise his plaything. We may win it all again someday, but Jerry Jones' football decisions won't have contributed to that winning process. We'd have won in spite of his moves.
 

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ravidubey;2621076 said:
He's done a passable job (this year) given the information presented to him. The problem is that information never comes from his own skills and imagination.

The hallmark of every perennial contender is the ability to identify and develop young talent (not talking about 1st round picks). To do that you must recognize the talent AND create an atmosphere that fosters growth of that talent. Jerry has not done this without Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells running the show. That's eleven years of struggling to develop talent.

Jerry doesn't have the foresight or talent as a personnel guy. He doesn't know how to evaluate players, hire coaches (he's had 6 in eighteen years), or create a proper system of checks and balances to prevent the Bobby Carpenter or Quincy Carter type decisions.

Jerry always needs someone else to do the real football part. The Dallas Cowboys deserve more from a GM than someone who delegates the meat of his own job and simply makes decisions from the reports of others.



What about creating a proper leadership and decision-making structure? Bill Parcells appears to have fixed that at least when it comes to running the draft (thank you), but the coaching structure has degenerated rapidly into a mess.

Wade Phillips had his OC and secondary coach decided for him by said owner/GM. Each taken in isolation, not a terrible thing, just unusual. But taken togther with Phillips' hand-selected defensive coordinator and special teams coaches being fired by the same guy and being the only head coach who's OC makes as much as he does-- it makes you wonder.

Phillips has the appearance of someone who's been neutered as a decision-maker, and as a result the organization reeks of dysfunction. That's the perception, and perception has a way of becoming reality very quickly if enough people (especially the players) believe it.

Players stop trusting the coaches and the coaches aren't strong enough to halt that perception. Only Jerry is, and that's the way he likes it.

Jerry claims to have the interests of the Dallas Cowboys at heart, but he's ultimately made the franchise his plaything. We may win it all again once someday, but Jerry Jones' football decisions won't have contributed to that winning process. We'd have won in spite of his moves.
So what you are saying is that Tex Schramm never relied on Gil Brandt at all in 29 years of working together? He was the initiator of every action?

Come on, you're smarter than that man. I know you may not respect me, but I do you. Think this through. Tex was the best GM ever. He relied on information by the assembled staff and acted upon it. The same thing you just said Jerry does.
 

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Let's review the neverending Jerry Jones conundrum again.

Problem: Jerry Jones is the general manager
Argument: Jerry Jones should allow someone else to handle general manager duties
Solution: ?

The question mark should equal that which must exist within the realm of conceivability. Any proposed idea conceived outside that box is D.O.A.

Seems simple enough.
 

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Hostile;2621066 said:
I'd rather be a mouth breather than to talk out of my ***.

:laugh2:

As big as you are...I am sure you do a lot of butt talking as well.:laugh2:

Esp in cars while on long trips when you pretend to be asleep.
 

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DallasEast;2621095 said:
Let's review the neverending Jerry Jones conundrum again.

Problem: Jerry Jones is the general manager
Argument: Jerry Jones should allow someone else to handle general manager duties
Solution: ?

The question mark should equal that which must exist within the realm of conceivability. Any proposed idea conceived outside that box is D.O.A.

Seems simple enough.


Well, there will be, some day, a solution to your problem/argument...but I would never wish that...mybe Bach would, but not I.
 

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5Stars;2621107 said:
Well, there will be, some day, a solution to your problem/argument...but I would never wish that...mybe Bach would, but not I.
Never wish what? :confused:
 
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