There is absolutely no way you bring this same team back

[starman22]

Jerry is too old at this point to blow it up. He will desperately think he can tweak it and we'll be a contender next year.

That is one of the biggest problems, we will be contenders again, meaning we will make the playoffs, not actually threaten the best teams.

 

[Kingofholland]

You could've made the argument had they made it to the NFC Championship.....maybe even if they won today and lost next week. But there is no argument for you to bring this same team back and quite frankly, you could argue you should probably rebuild or retool it. No way in hell you can bring it back. There's no argument for it. Especially after the 49ers smack them up next week it will just be further proof how far away your product is.

Well they have 14 free agents so thats a quarter of the roster that could be turned over.

 

[BoysForLife]

You are gutless. You the one who sitting here on some I Told YOU SO's less then a hour after we lose. Like the fraud *** Eagles fan you are....

Willie beamen pretty much said the same thing all year. That Dak was not the guy and this was not the team and it would show in the end

And he got eviscerated for it.

Of course he's going to say I told you so. Like if Dak had great game today in a big victory over GB, you wouldn't be doing the same?

You're a reasonable guy but you spent a lot of time mocking and challenging people who raised concerns and doubts. You have to expect some blowback on that.

 

[Kingofholland]

No you cant

Lots of wild ideas will be presented this offseason.

 

[pitt33]

Jayron Kearse has regressed and was a liability all damn season. Clark is playing like a late rounder and Bell isn't even playing his position.

We lead the league in penalties, 3rd highest I believe in dropped passes, oh and we have a QB that chokes in the biggest moments who is going to be paid 59M next season.

It’s over.

Mark my words.

The Dallas Cowboys are done being regular season relevant.

We just witnessed playoff irrelevance.

Once again.

 

[mardwin]

No you cant

Cooper Rush 5-1 record as a stater. Go ahead and ignore the facts for your ideology.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Man guys thinking you even consider rebuilding after a 12-5 season are in la la land

12-5 is irrelevant when you lose in the wild card to a 9 win team by 30 points.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well they have 14 free agents so thats a quarter of the roster that could be turned over.

Might gotta look at a lot of them not returning…..

 

[stilltheguru]

Jerry is too old at this point to blow it up. He will desperately think he can tweak it and we'll be a contender next year.

you may be right and if so it's dead wrong. We haven't built an elite defense led by an elite defensive leader. That's what's needed with a less than transcendent qb. We're just treadmill running at this point.

 

[starman22]

Be honest.

Dak just is a nice QB. He's not great. He is great at racking up stats on bad teams (and the Eagles) but when the rubber hits the road in big games and post season, more often than not, he comes up small. I have no idea why. Maybe he is limited. Maybe he presses too much.

But facts are, this guy is paid like an elite QB but doesn't really play like an elite QB when the team needs him most. While some fans' criticism of him can and has been over the top, the fans that point out that he's likely not a guy that can take you to a SB are probably way closer to being accurate than guys like you who constantly make excuses for him.

That's what you should probably own up to.

But it's market value, he's not greedy.

 

[ICP]

Tell Dumb and Dumber that

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Willie beamen pretty much said the same thing all year. That Dak was not the guy and this was not the team and it would show in the end

And he got eviscerated for it.

Of course he's going to say I told you so. Like if Dak had great game today in a big victory over GB, you wouldn't be doing the same?

You're a reasonable guy but you spent a lot of time mocking and challenging people who raised concerns and doubts. You have to expect some blowback on that.

He didn’t get eviscerated for it. Most people here agreed this team would do this. Not in the wild card sure but we all knew at the very least we would get beat by San Fran.

As I said above I never knock anyone for reasonable opinions. I argue with those who offer morning but negativity. He’s basically saying “ I Told You So” for saying Dak sucks lol. Ok stand in line there are others here who offer nothing as well.

 

[starman22]

Is this how a mod acts?

?, Mods are still just fans of this team.

 

[BoysForLife]

He didn’t get eviscerated for it. Most people here agreed this team would do this. Not in the wild card sure but we all knew at the very least we would get beat by San Fran.

As I said above I never knock anyone for reasonable opinions. I argue with those who offer morning but negativity. He’s basically saying “ I Told You So” for saying Dak sucks lol. Ok stand in line there are others here who offer nothing as well.

He did get eviscerated by some. And he did tell you so.

And when it counted (not in some meaningless week 10 game against Washington or the Giants) he was right.

Let him crow. He took the arrows from a lot of folks and he ended up being prescient. It is what it is

 

[stilltheguru]

That’s what I mean. You either blow it up or keep it going with the same group. Which has the better outlook? It’s easy to say “do this and we’re the best team” but that’s not a realistic expectation


The difference is Philadelphia’s issues aren’t roster building, they have a track record of it being successful. Their issue isn’t culture, the last 25 years have been far and away the best in franchise history. It’s not the owner, it’s not the GM; while flawed; they’ve proven multiple times to be able to flip a disappointing situation in a single offseason. Philadelphia has a clear problem with the coordinators we hired that we can attempt to solve in the offseason.

What is Dallas’ obvious solution? Changing coaches has repeatedly led to very similar results. Romo to Dak has led to very similar results. Lots of All-Pros, few All-Pros, still the same. How do you fix that? In the past, It has been Jerry. It’s Jerry today, it’s Jerry tomorrow, and we’ll be having an identical conversation this time next year just as we did last year.

You fix it by building a truly elite defense with a leader on that group. We don't have that. Yall don't either. You had it in 2017 with jenkins and Graham.

 

[Asklesko]

You're right. Blow it up. That's the only right answer.

 

[mmohican29]

Be honest.

Dak just is a nice QB. He's not great. He is great at racking up stats on bad teams (and the Eagles) but when the rubber hits the road in big games and post season, more often than not, he comes up small. I have no idea why. Maybe he is limited. Maybe he presses too much.

But facts are, this guy is paid like an elite QB but doesn't really play like an elite QB when the team needs him most. While some fans' criticism of him can and has been over the top, the fans that point out that he's likely not a guy that can take you to a SB are probably way closer to being accurate than guys like you who constantly make excuses for him.

That's what you should probably own up to.

I agree. Dak is a good QB. But he WON'T win here. He just won't.

Let's show some guts.

Move on from Mac. Trade or release Dak and roll with Lance if need be for 1 season and take our lumps and the criticism that will come with both moves.

This team needs to go full heel, and get a HC that makes everyone very, very uncomfortable with losing from Day 1.

We might struggle for a bit but *two* teams today just showed you why there is little difference between 9 and 12 victories with the proper mindset in the postseason.

This team showed ZERO urgency for 60 minutes.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He did get eviscerated by some. And he did tell you so.

And when it counted (not in some meaningless week 10 game against Washington or the Giants) he was right.

Let him crow. He took the arrows from a lot of folks and he ended up being prescient. It is what it is

He said Romo was better then Dak as if todays choke job proves it but it’s whatever everyone can gloat I don’t get the satisfaction of being negative when we all lost today but aye some of us find satisfaction in losing some of us don’t.

 

[starman22]

Just by nature of contracts and free agency the team will be much different next year. If you make big time wholesale changes like the coaching staff? There’s a real argument for that as well. Quinn may be gone anyways and some assistants with him- the question then becomes is that enough for Jerry to sell us on bring MM back?

I think that’s the direction that’s most likely things go, new coordinators, new players on roster and a lot less big time changes than you’d like. I’m not saying I agree but I just think Jerry is gonna sell us on 3 12 win seasons again which tbh I was totally fine with as long as the team advanced to the division round at minimum.

A loss this bad makes a big time change at head coach more than justified imo. This is worse than niner losses the last few years. We were outclassed by a 7 seed

Whoever is planning on hiring Quinn must be grinning ear to ear, his asking price has to be half of what it was before this game.

 

[movaughn88]

?, Mods are still just fans of this team.

Yes supposed to moderate and not give their strong opinions