Think any players kneel tomorrow night?

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  1. JoeKing

    JoeKing Diehard Zone Supporter

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    Jerry loves my letter. My evidence is no Cowboys taking a knee. Take a minute to let that sink in.
     
  2. Nova

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    No. I'm asking Police make the logical move.

    It's true you have to give respect to get respect.

    The respectful thing to do would be to first at least acknowledge the issue.

    Like "We hear you America. This is what we're doing to be better. And this is what we need from you to make our jobs easier and your lives smoother."

    It's a two way street, but the authority figure needs to be the first to make a move. And we just haven't seen that in a concerted, national effort.

    ...yet.
     
  3. Section446

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    Which current player is a murderer?
     
  4. JoeKing

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    God bless the scabs!
     
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  5. Nova

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    It's a good thing those people don't speak for the majority of Americans.

    Don't let any media outlet tell you otherwise.
     
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  6. Ken

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    That the "racists" who want this to stop are not actually racists since he is hispanic.

    And there is a HUGE difference between #39 and #1.
     
  7. Ken

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    Ah, sorry for the assumption. I only posted the clip for Jerry's quote but didn't really listen past that part.
     
  8. rocyaice

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    This isn't about just police brutality. It's about those suffering in this country. The foundation of that suffering.

    The oppressed in this country have no voice. And people like you think just because you aren't the oppressed you shouldn't speak for those that are. People are hurting in this country. Suffering through pain you can't even imagine. So who are we to tell someone don't speak up for those in pain? No, their suffering is self inflicted. They are killing each other so it is ok for police kill them as well. That's not how it should be......
     
  9. Section446

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    It's a good thing that the few racist white people don't speak for the majority of white people.
     
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  10. rocyaice

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    That has nothing to do with your letter. It just means people are either too scared to stand for something or they simply don't care. As Dez said, he has to feed his kids.......
    One person saying that in his eyes speaks for everyone.....
    Leonard Little, Ray Lewis, Josh Brent.....I don't know if any current players......

    Oh I agree. There needs to be dialogue. But first we need to acknowledge there is a problem....and that's where the issue is.
     
  11. csirl

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    Its interesting how the anthem tradition began in US sports.

    In most professional sport in most countries national anthems are not played for regular fixtures unless there is a rememberance anniversary or national day or other special occasion. In those countries playing it before a game would be akin to playing it before a theater play or movie or other form of entertainment.

    Anthems are played at International fuxtures but thats because countries, not pro clubs/teams are playing. And anthems are generally respected, even those of opponents who's countries you may not like.
     
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  12. JoeKing

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    My letter will hopefully never be sent. Fear of Jerry will keep the sheep in line.
     
  13. toto1939

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    Per Fort Worth Star-Telegram this afternoon (1:30pm):


    The Dallas Cowboys plan to protest during the national anthem before Monday’s game against the Arizona Cardinals, per multiple sources.

    Nothing has been firmed up and they will likely come to some decision in the locker room. It may not be a coordinated effort. It may just be a few individuals.

    One player said, “We have to do something.”

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    Oh well...I guess I'll get back to playing golf on Sunday afternoons if Jerry lets that slide
     
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  14. Nova

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    Seeing how police officers aren't just made up of white dudes, not sure how much relevance this has for this discussion.

    But since you bring it up, you're right; Overt racists don't speak for the majority of whites or any race for that matter.
     
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  15. Philmonroe

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    I don't care what you're dad taught you anymore than you what mine taught me and nobody said you had to like it. Oh so the real problem is because you played a sport you think they should be grateful even though their millions help the owners get paid hundreds of millions and billions. I get you're another one of those people that know they won't be smart enough to make billions (which is also most of us too) so those doing something you think you can do should be thankful? Ok.

    I can even agree that taking a knee doesn't do much but it is funny how people are sooo hype about something that most never paid attention to. When I'm at the stadium I'm buying food or something else during the anthem and nobody cares. Now we all do? I can't buy that maybe you can. If the anthem was really so important they'd play it at your jobs and everywhere else. We've been brainwashed because things that mean something aren't just mainly done by most only at a game. You might not be part of most but you know most are representing the flag like they claim all the time.

    I thought you cared so much about the flag so you would know about things you claim you know about. Guess not.
     
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  16. rocyaice

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    Props to the players for showcasing their voice and speaking up.
     
  17. Nova

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    To me the locking of arms signifies unified support for freedom of expression. Which is the one thing I am on the side of.

    I'm not upset by the initial protests, nor do I agree with them. Everyone lives in a different America.

    But one thing that should be constant is that each side should have the ability freely express themselves without fear of losing their jobs.

    The NFL is a brotherhood and standing up for one another is a great thing.
     
  18. Philmonroe

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    The only thing that is the same is they're both jobs. Everything else is different. I don't even know why people use the at my job line. Just say you want them doing it on their own time so you don't have to think about it any less than you do now. It's not like people like you who disagree are going to get involved anyway if they did on their off time so why is this such a big deal? I mean we can turn the tv off during this part or not pay attention at the stadiums so why is really a big deal? People want to complain and on both sides want to strong arm their views on others. A big reason why this world will never be united ever. I don't it is meant to be anyway
     
  19. Philmonroe

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    This is true and to get to where we are now people did "protests" on others time but people overlook things that don't benefit them most times. That last part is anybody not anyone side, person, race, gender, etc.
     
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  20. JoeKing

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    No kneeling. Maybe a fist in the air or all players locked arm in arm will be acceptable.
     

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