Think any players kneel tomorrow night?

Philmonroe

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I was just using your words in my response. You lumped me in to a group of people I don't necessarily agree with so i thought you wouldn't mind if I did the same...
I don't at all. I know online some people things that in person you can see differently than words. All that to say I don't mind that at all. If I dish I can take it and can take a lot that I didn't dish. All love over here my man.
 
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Kaepernick can do what he wants, how he wants to do it. He can say what he wants on any platform he chooses. He can blame anyone he wants for the societal injustice he believes outweighs respect for the fallen.

That said: I could give two bird-****s less about Colin Kaepernick, his ideals, his message. Has any one individual in the history of sports- parlayed his ever-rising level of suck into such a mess. Credit him for finding a way to make MILLIONS of people forget how much he truly sucked.

Good stuff Colin. :thumbup:
Why do you say respect for the fallen when it's been said time and time that's not what's it's about? Guess you want to have a "valid" reason to dislike it eh? If that's the case I hope you respect all them bylaws posted earlier about the flag since you claim you're sooo for it.
 

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I don't know, nor do I really care. I'm just overall sick of politics suddenly flooding into, and now almost overshadowing the game.

I'm all for players' rights to take a stand for what the believe in, but I don't need it to be a continued overshadowing force.

If I were to protest at my workplace while on the clock, my employer would have every right to terminate me. They would certainly be ok with me doing it peacefully on my own time though. These players are on company time when they chose to do this protesting. In my opinion, The beginning of the game is not the time or place for protests. Why has this point not been made by the national media?
 

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If I were to protest at my workplace while on the clock, my employer would have every right to terminate me. They would certainly be ok with me doing it peacefully on my own time though. These players are on company time when they chose to do this protesting. In my opinion, The beginning of the game is not the time or place for protests. Why has this point not been made by the national media?

Sure. Let the NFL owners fire them. I'm sure they're getting tight on that.
 

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If I were to protest at my workplace while on the clock, my employer would have every right to terminate me. They would certainly be ok with me doing it peacefully on my own time though. These players are on company time when they chose to do this protesting. In my opinion, The beginning of the game is not the time or place for protests. Why has this point not been made by the national media?


The biggest difference is at my job I don't have to stand up for the pledge of allegiance. I work at a hospital that has Catholic roots and built by sisters. I don't see everyone stopping what they are doing to stand at attention or neither are they expected to when the daily prayer comes on the intercom like it may have been.
 

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They won't do it, but I want to see Jerry try and fire Dak and Dez. If they took a knee he'd bend over like the wuss he is.
 

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I'm an employer just like the NFL is. I don't permit my employees to protest on company time. Does that mean I don't support my employees cause? NO. It means there is a time and place for everything and company time is not the time to protest. That behavior gets you fired if you continue it after I've duly warned you not to do so. And I may very well call the ones that insist on using my company time to protest an SOB. That is my freedom of speech. But be clear, this isn't about free speech or how cops behave or any of numerous reasons given for these protests. This has become about forcing one ideology on everyone. There is a unity / oneness / togetherness message and that message is opposing the president. That is the ideology being pushed and so I say no thank you.
 

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Yea, Kaepernick's comments and tweets from the other day really ignited something. You'd think he'd be smart enough to stay in his lane, right?

Check out kapernicks girl friend and her mom to see another side of CK and an dea of where some of this non nationalism is coming from. Clue. They don't love america
 
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The beginning of the game is not the time or place for protests. Why has this point not been made by the national media?

Then it's not the time for the Anthem to be played. If the NFL wants to make itself part of the military's recruitment efforts, then they should be prepared for protest from those who never had a say.
 

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Then it's not the time for the Anthem to be played. If the NFL wants to make itself part of the military's recruitment efforts, then they should be prepared for protest from those who never had a say.
You sure now your fake facebook memes. :lmao2:

You shouldn't believe everything you read.
 

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They have chosen to allow players to disrespect this country and they are going to pay the price in viewership and $$.

I hope they are happy. This is why real companies/organizations don't let you protest while at work or representing you organization.

But hey, they have spoken...lol

Don't lump them all together. Wouldn't you agree that some of the players kneeling are very fine people?
 

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I'm an employer just like the NFL is. I don't permit my employees to protest on company time. Does that mean I don't support my employees cause? NO. It means there is a time and place for everything and company time is not the time to protest. That behavior gets you fired if you continue it after I've duly warned you not to do so. And I may very well call the ones that insist on using my company time to protest an SOB. That is my freedom of speech. But be clear, this isn't about free speech or how cops behave or any of numerous reasons given for these protests. This has become about forcing one ideology on everyone. There is a unity / oneness / togetherness message and that message is opposing the president. That is the ideology being pushed and so I say no thank you.

The NFL stated that they do not require players to stand for the anthem. You should just deal with it.
 

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Try to at least be coherent
Follow your own advise. You think paying respect to the flag and playing the national anthem is about recruitment? I don't think you independently came up with that. You are just parroting it because you saw it on facebook or heard someone else say it that saw it on facebook.
 

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Follow your own advise. You think paying respect to the flag and playing the national anthem is about recruitment? I don't think you independently came up with that. You are just parroting it because you saw it on facebook or heard someone else say it that saw it on facebook.

That may be how you get your talking points, but this was a well known event I think even before the Kap protests started.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ofessional-sports_us_5639a04ce4b0411d306eda5e
 

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See the usual suspects deflecting from what the protests are about and instead trying to squash the protests from happening. The irony of the desire for sports to be their safe space is just delicious.

Police enjoy extra rights over the public that protect them from investigation and prosecution.
The standards for use of force need to be reformed.
Police do not receive near enough training.
There is an inherent conflict of interest in how police investigations and prosecutions are normally conducted.
Police policies like stop and frisk and broken windows are ineffective and disproportionately target minorities.

The NFL and its players have a point.
 
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