This is JJ's team and he's screwing it up.

aardvark;1338488 said:
darned if you do...

darned if you don't

I agree.

The same ones calling for Coach Parcells' head last week are now panicking because the alternates are not as appealing.
 
doomsday81;1338868 said:
I seriously doubt Jones has, or ever will, call plays. However, decisions like this undermine the head coach and the players know they don't have to listen to him because the owner has all the power. Just look at the teams that sustain success over a long period of time. Teams like the Pats, Eagles, Colts and Steelers. Those are the most successful teams over the last five years. They all had a system and structure in place so even if they lose players or coaches, they continue to win. That's what the Cowboys don't have under Jones and never will. Until he's willing to step aside and let others who know what they're doing put the pieces in place that will allow this team to be successful over the long haul, they will never be a conistent winner in today's NFL. It's just that simple. If you don't believe me, just take a look at the drafts, free agent failures and winning percentage of the Dallas Cowboys over the last decade. The proof is right there.

Good post. The only times we've had any success was when Jerry wasn't hands-on.

It looks like he's now hands-on again. BP just retired on Monday and Jerry's already creating a cluster
 
doomsday81;1338868 said:
I seriously doubt Jones has, or ever will, call plays. However, decisions like this undermine the head coach and the players know they don't have to listen to him because the owner has all the power. Just look at the teams that sustain success over a long period of time. Teams like the Pats, Eagles, Colts and Steelers. Those are the most successful teams over the last five years. They all had a system and structure in place so even if they lose players or coaches, they continue to win. That's what the Cowboys don't have under Jones and never will. Until he's willing to step aside and let others who know what they're doing put the pieces in place that will allow this team to be successful over the long haul, they will never be a conistent winner in today's NFL. It's just that simple. If you don't believe me, just take a look at the drafts, free agent failures and winning percentage of the Dallas Cowboys over the last decade. The proof is right there.

I will hope like crazy that I will be eating crow while HC Garrett/ Turner /Jones/Phillips or whoever leads us to championships but I know it aint so. Well, at least we will have the small satisfaction of knowing we were right all along when this turns out bad.
 
jimmy40;1338450 said:
Reasons for Jerry's Super Bowls:


1.Jerry spent alot of money
2.Jerry had the balls to fire Landry
3.Jerry hired Jimmy
4.Jimmy tore the team down and built the best team of all time.
Was there anything else?


Yeah, many of you revisionist seem to forget that the Charles Haley trade was a Jerry move and Jimmy was against trading for him........and as we all know Haley ended up being the final piece to the Superbowl puzzle.
 
doomsday81;1338875 said:
Robert Kraft in New England is the same for the Patriots. The only difference is he makes the money and lets Pioli and Belichick run the team. Great point. In other words, you never say a bad word about Daniel Snyder, right? Just because he's rich and owns the team doesn't give him the right to run it into the ground. This is the Dallas Cowboys, not the Arizona Cardinals. If you are happy with the way Jones is running this team, than God bless you. But in my opinion, one of the greatest franchises in all of sports should have at least one playoff win every ten years.

Actually it does --he can have the team play in mini skirts if he wants to --
It is his team ---lucky for us Jerry wants to win as bad as anyone ---He
has done everything he can (sometimes not the right thing)to put a winning team on the field. Fans can be as crazy as they want to --but it is his money and his team. We don't own anything but the right to talk and buy tickets if we deciede to:bang2:
 
CanadianCowboysFan;1338412 said:
I don't understand something.

Back in October when Bledsoe was not playing well, people here were clamouring for Jones to step in and DEMAND that Parcells bench Drew for Tony.

Now posters are claiming that JJ is ruining things by STEPPING IN.

Which is it, is Jones wrong when he steps in or wrong when he doesn't step in?

Or, is Jones just always wrong?


Dude go back to when the decision to bench Bledsoe was made. Jerry is on record as saying that "he's disappointed" that it happened and he thought starting Romo was gonna set us back. Jerry was a Bledsoe lover till the end. Jerry was the one who got jealous and hurt and let a two time Super Bowl winning coach go. Jerry was the one who brought in Campo for 3 years and Jerry is the one who messed up the Sean Payton contract and let him to New Orleans. Jerry is more than likely the one who messed up the Parcells extension talk and lost him too. Jerry has ruined what would otherwise be the most dominant franchise in the history of sports. The Patriots would be nothing compared to us.
 
Alexander;1338880 said:
I agree.

The same ones calling for Coach Parcells' head last week are now panicking because the alternates are not as appealing.


Very well said. Too many fair weather fans just speaking off only emotion. We lost a hall of fame coach last week and we're surely going to suffer because of it. My friends from Virginia that are diehard Commanders fans are just foaming at the mouth right now and laughing at me everyday. What's sad is that they're right about us going down the drain fast. Parcells was the best thing to happen to this franchise since Jimmy and now he's gone.
 
sandtrapp;1338399 said:
J.J. hires the coordinators and then the HC.
He'll be coaching from the Box.:banghead:
From DizzG in another thread..........

Jeff Fisher was just on Fox radio and said that in the NFL now coaches go to teams that have staff members already in place more and more...that it wasnt common in past years but that has changed around the league some.

said that coaches dont always go in and name their whole staff if there are coaches already there under contract...that it isnt a big deal unless that coach has some specific problem with a coach already there or whatever.

but hey..what would Jeff Fisher know? I mean its happened even this offseason in Miami and Zona but some here think its totally taboo....
 
Alexander;1338880 said:
The same ones calling for Coach Parcells' head last week are now panicking because the alternates are not as appealing.
I'm more comfortable with the coaching situation right now than I have been in quite a while. With Garrett I'n not concerned about the offense at all. My bet is the new DC will see what the tapes of this year and wonder how we won 9 games. We were the poorest coached 3-4 in the league.
 
Alexander;1338880 said:
I agree.

The same ones calling for Coach Parcells' head last week are now panicking because the alternates are not as appealing.

I'm not one of those...we were never gonna escape 9-7 and the 1st rd of the playoffs with things the way they were

it was time for something new...new ideas...different leadership...

David
 
Alexander;1338880 said:
I agree.

The same ones calling for Coach Parcells' head last week are now panicking because the alternates are not as appealing.

No, the job is no longer appealing. That's why it attracts flies.
 
bbgun;1339048 said:
No, the job is no longer appealing. That's why it attracts flies.

really? is that why Parcells coached here for 4yrs?

David
 
dbair1967;1339050 said:
really? is that why Parcells coached here for 4yrs?

David

He was broke coming off a divorce and tired of playing with the grandkids. Voila.
 
bbgun;1339048 said:
No, the job is no longer appealing. That's why it attracts flies.

What is unappealing about the most recognized franchise in the sport?

An owner who has shown he will pay through the nose to win?

You are talking out of your backside.
 
dbair1967;1339042 said:
I'm not one of those...we were never gonna escape 9-7 and the 1st rd of the playoffs with things the way they were

it was time for something new...new ideas...different leadership...

David

I won't deny that members of this team no longer were responding to Coach Parcells or his message.

But the point is now that people are upset when last week they were jubilent without taking the time to fully understand the gravity of the situation.

There is nothing out there. It is a coaching wasteland and will be until next offseason. We are stuck in purgatory.
 
Alexander;1339055 said:
What is unappealing about the most recognized franchise in the sport?

An owner who has shown he will pay through the nose to win?

You are talking out of your backside.

It's appealing as long as Jerry makes it appealing.

The Raiders job was once extremely appealing, but now they can hardly get anyone to take it.

If Jerry let's the HC have power and authority, then the job should remain appealing. If he goes back to micromanaging every aspect, then it will likely go the way of the Raiders job.
 
Alexander;1339062 said:
I won't deny that members of this team no longer were responding to Coach Parcells or his message.

But the point is now that people are upset when last week they were jubilent without taking the time to fully understand the gravity of the situation.

There is nothing out there. It is a coaching wasteland and will be until next offseason. We are stuck in purgatory.

we'll see...just because the guy doesnt have the "name" some want, doesnt mean we cant get somebody who cant have success

David
 
Deputy493;1338957 said:
Yeah, many of you revisionist seem to forget that the Charles Haley trade was a Jerry move and Jimmy was against trading for him........and as we all know Haley ended up being the final piece to the Superbowl puzzle.
"John McVay, one of the 49ers' vice presidents, called me just at the end of the 1992 training camp, and we were actually talking about trading other players. John mentioned Haley. I said there was an interest there. (talk about trying to keep a poker voice in a phone conversaition! Charles Haley was the premier pass rusher in the league. We'd been busy shoring up our secondary, but if we could get Haley in the defensive front for passing situations, that would be a leap in our pass defense that we hadn't anticipated.) John and I talked about it initially, and then Jerry Jones and Carmen Policy, the 49ers' President, finalized the trade." - Jimmy Johnson
 
VA Cowboy;1339065 said:
It's appealing as long as Jerry makes it appealing.

The Raiders job was once extremely appealing, but now they can hardly get anyone to take it.

If Jerry let's the HC have power and authority, then the job should remain appealing. If he goes back to micromanaging every aspect, then it will likely go the way of the Raiders job.

Jerry or no Jerry, the job will always appeal to carpetbagging moneywhores like Bill and neophytes like Garrett looking to climb the ladder.
 
VA Cowboy;1339065 said:
It's appealing as long as Jerry makes it appealing.

Who would it be appealing to right now?

What quality coach is available?

If this were 2008, you would see a slew of upper tier coaching talent and I am completely convinced most would find Dallas a very appealing location.

It just seems that way right now because honestly there is nothing available but the backwash.

The Raiders job was once extremely appealing, but now they can hardly get anyone to take it.

If Garrett was just hired as the coach, I would believe you. But this is another myth that keeps living, even though it was completely dispelled four years ago.

Jones is an opportunist. The opportunities and options aren't there right now.

Coach Parcells has been very complimentary of him as an employer. Sorry, that means more to me than someone on a message board who likes to repeat the same boring, tedious scare stories.

If Jerry let's the HC have power and authority, then the job should remain appealing. If he goes back to micromanaging every aspect, then it will likely go the way of the Raiders job.

He's never micromanaged, not to the degree Davis has by dictating what assistants stay or go, what type of offense the team will run. Nothing of the kind. His problem is that he meddled in the player side of things and allowed his star players to run the franchise. Years of pandering to the likes of Aikman, Emmitt Smith and now Roy Williams is what has hurt more than any perceived meddling on his part.
 

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