This Is the reason you don't pay RBs Big Money

[Doomsday101]

Sound strategy that I agree with.

We should all let this season play out before talking about paying or not paying Murray.

True, enjoy the ride. NFL off season is long enough may as well enjoy watching Murray now, everything else will take care of itself

 

[CyberB0b]

He's a really good back, and is probably the most well rounded in the league, but you don't break the bank to pay him.

 

[Doomsday101]

Ride him like the rented mule he is this year, let him test the market unprotected next year. RBs are a dime a dozen.

No avg players are a dime a dozen at any and all positions. top player in the league make money.

 

[ologan]

How many of those RB's have three 23 year old cornerstones on the offensive line blocking for them? Don't be cheap, if Murray performs then you pay him.

If he asks for too much, take some of that money and solidify that OL even more in the draft, (preferably after taking a DL choice).

 

[Doomsday101]

He's a really good back, and is probably the most well rounded in the league, but you don't break the bank to pay him.

I don't break the bank to pay Dez either I sure as heck do not want Dallas giving him Calvin Johnson money, if you have quality players you try to pay them fair market value for their play.

 

[Stash]

Sometimes that is the case I think you can find that with any position. RB since they get caught up in piles with big guys rolling up the back of their legs injuries can and do happen. However like any position when you have a young and talented player you do what you can to get them signed.

I clearly notice running backs missing more time after the big contract than before. Look no further than Arian Foster, the guy we may or may not see this week. He watches out for his health a lot more now than he did before he got paid.

I'm glad Dallas never took that approach with guys like Tony Dorsett or Emmitt Smith, they got paid well because they played great ball and were big parts of those teams.

If you'd care to look it up, the Cowboys had contract issues with both of those players at various points as well. Contracts and money are never a perfect marriage.

Dallas is finally doing what many of us have been hollering about and some think you can just throw some RB in there and all is well? Not buying it

I'm not advocating that at all. I think you're misunderstanding me.

I'm just stating that if Murray's demands turn out to be too high, they need to look at options.

 

[Doomsday101]

I clearly notice running backs missing more time after the big contract than before. Look no further than Arian Foster, the guy we may or may not see this week. He watches out for his health a lot more now than he did before he got paid.



If you'd care to look it up, the Cowboys had contract issues with both of those players at various points as well. Contracts and money are never a perfect marriage.



I'm not advocating that at all. I think you're misunderstanding me.

I'm just stating that if Murray's demands turn out to be too high, they need to look at options.

Back then because of no player movement you can find contract disagreements and hold outs at again all positions. Yes Foster has been injured but again Dallas has paid out big contract to guys like Ratliff and how did that work out.

As for Murray I don't think he deserves Peterson type money I do think he would deserve around top 5 money which will put it around 7 mill a year. Would I like it to be less? sure. Heck I want to get Dez signed too but not looking at Calvin Johnson or Fitzpatrick money that would pay out over 16 mill a year but I do want to see him get fair market value.

I know you did not use if but the term I see "Dime a Dozen" can apply to all JAG at all position but top talented players the guys that can help you win and achieve the goal of winning championships do not come at a cheap price.

 

[links18]

The question of what t do with Murray is a tough one, but its a good problem to have after the disasters of Julius Jones and Julius Jones, but let's hoped we learned something from overpaying for Barber.

 

[Future]

Wasn't that before the salary cap?

Yea, so the point is moot pretty much.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

The question of what t do with Murray is a tough one, but its a good problem to have after the disasters of Julius Jones and Julius Jones, but let's hoped we learned something from overpaying for Barber.

This would have been the last season of the Marion Barber contract...

Let that sink in a little.

 

[basstapp]

I pay Murray before Dez... I like Dez, but he doesn't take games over like Murray can. The scary thing is if we sign Dez to big money Romo only has about 3 years left and we have to groom another QB. What is better for a young QB to have a RB or a WR.

 

[NeonDeion21]

FWIW, Murray is on pace to have nearly 1,400 less rushing attempts than Emmit Smith by their 27th birthdays...

 

[Doomsday101]

This would have been the last season of the Marion Barber contract...

Let that sink in a little.

I don't think Dallas should use Barber as an example, lets not sign Dez look at TO as an example. Dez is not TO and Murray is not Barber. Having them pay the price because of what happened with TO which cost Dallas big time as he had just got a big contract the year before Dallas released him and also with Barber. Both guys deserve to be dealt with in a fair manner based on them and their play not the personality and play of TO and Barber

 

[Screw The Hall]

It's tricky. I think it's the length of RB contracts that you have to be extremely careful with. I wouldn't be scared to pay the man but not for very long. RBs just don't last in the NFL. I'd aim at making him one of the top paid at his position for around 3 years. After that it's a crapshoot. You'd have to be extremely creative to get Murray and his agent interested in a contract that didn't guarantee his livelihood for a good 5 years but I wouldn't go there. Length of contract not money per year would be the sticking point for me if I was the GM.

 

[Fletch]

Its mostly the line, by far.

This line of thinking makes Emmitt merely average. Sturdy yes, but a product of his O-line.

 

[Doomsday101]

It's tricky. I think it's the length of RB contracts that you have to be extremely careful with. I wouldn't be scared to pay the man but not for very long. RBs just don't last in the NFL. I'd aim at making him one of the top paid at his position for around 3 years. After that it's a crapshoot. You'd have to be extremely creative to get Murray and his agent interested in a contract that didn't guarantee his livelihood for a good 5 years but I wouldn't go there. Length of contract not money per year would be the sticking point for me if I was the GM.

I was thinking more of a 4 year deal. I do agree the length of the contract would be the key issue

 

[Doomsday101]

This line of thinking makes Emmitt merely average. Sturdy yes, but a product of his O-line.

Yes when other RB would fill in for Smith in games he missed they did not have the same production or impact on the game and Dallas suffered

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't think Dallas should use Barber as an example, lets not sign Dez look at TO as an example. Dez is not TO and Murray is not Barber. Having them pay the price because of what happened with TO which cost Dallas big time as he had just got a big contract the year before Dallas released him and also with Barber. Both guys deserve to be dealt with in a fair manner based on them and their play not the personality and play of TO and Barber

Agreed.

It's like using Emmitt Smith as an example.

 

[Rack]

Yeah. That's why the lineman credit Murray for his innate ability for setting up blocks.

It's not 'by far' via any stretch of the imagination.

Murray gets 4 when there's only 2, consistently.

I'm not taking anything away from this line.........they're top three right now.

So is Murray.

Murray leads the league BY FAR in yards before contact. Its the OL... by far.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Yes when other RB would fill in for Smith in games he missed they did not have the same production or impact on the game and Dallas suffered

The sample size that you're using is incredibly small.

Other than the two hold-out games there were very few in which Emmitt did not play.