This was a Jerry, not McClay, draft

[BrassCowboy]

The great myth is that if we didn't get Zeke at 4 we couldn't run the ball. Or that somehow there was a rule that we could only draft a RB in the 1st...instead of say grabbing Perkins who went in the 5th.

It's a pretty simple game of opportunity cost.

yeah just like maybe we should not of drafted Dez so high, or Martin, certainly not Tyron Smith, Fredricks? what were we thinking???? matter of fact we should just refuse to draft anyone in first round again

None of those RBs come even close to the level EE is at. and that was validated by how long it took before a RB was picked again

 

[zrinkill]

Moral relativism from someone like you.

This from the king of gullibility when it comes to validity.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Despite the selections having all the hallmarks of a Jerry-draft I have a positive feeling about the first 5 picks. Call it homerism, something I'm not usually accused of, but the first 5 picks are good players and Jalen has a solid chance of coming out the other side looking great. Dak is a 50-50 flier we took but I think that's true of all the QBs after Goff/Wentz,,, and even they are only 60-40.

 

[Sydla]

yeah just like maybe we should not of drafted Dez so high, or Martin, certainly not Tyron Smith, Fredricks? what were we thinking???? matter of fact we should just refuse to draft anyone in first round again

None of those RBs come even close to the level EE is at. and that was validated by how long it took before a RB was picked again

Maybe but then again the RB position is devalued across the board in the NFL. So the reason why many teams didn't take a TB early is because many teams feel they can get one in the middle rounds.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Disagree. Pass rush and defense PROBABLY help Romo more UNLESS we get in the at least 31PPG range and better yet in the 35PPG range.

So what pass rusher were you looking at in this draft that was going to help Romo this year? Bosa?

 

[BrassCowboy]

Maybe but then again the RB position is devalued across the board in the NFL. So the reason why many teams didn't take a TB early is because many teams feel they can get one in the middle rounds.

without getting into whether a TB is truly not as needed now, you prove my point even more. EE was valued at TOP of draft by more than Cowboys.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Clearly we don't see eye to eye on this...and that's fine. It's a message board...and debates are healthy. But I don't care what position someone plays....you should always more than five years out of the #4 overall pick. That's just how I see it.

I agree with you. AT the same time, i'm not quite sure that Elliot only has 5 years left.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

yeah just like maybe we should not of drafted Dez so high, or Martin, certainly not Tyron Smith, Fredricks? what were we thinking???? matter of fact we should just refuse to draft anyone in first round again

None of those RBs come even close to the level EE is at. and that was validated by how long it took before a RB was picked again

Comparing drafting a RB to drafting actual positions where you see longevity and scarcity?

Ok.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

but Miller is how old? if it is such a "fungible" position, then why do we keep talking about guys who are WAY to old to run, you know - the ones that are older than 24 years of age

This whole "shelf life" keeps getting younger and younger every time someone brings it up, and they bring it up with an agenda. RBs drop off at 30, Zeke will turn 21 when he is in training camp.

We didn't draft Ramsey, Tunsil, Stanley, Buckner, Karl Joseph or anyone else that could of been had at #4 so get over it. Your genius pick wasn't picked and in your mind, that bothers you. get over it.

Ezekiel Elliot is a Cowboy now and he is gonna tear it up. I would hope you haters of the pick would root for him, but for some to do so would hedge against their bet that it was a bad move so Cowboy fan or not, I don't expect some to root for him.

First of all your statistics are off. RBs historically peak at 27. And there is then a precipitous fall off. And that's for the lucky ones who injury doesn't ruin long before that.

Miller is 24. His contract would have carried him through his 27 peak year. And then you would have moved on. Better still you wouldn't have blown the 4th overall pick in the National Football League draft.

Also...nobody hates Zeke the player. So stop with that nonsense.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Comparing drafting a RB to drafting actual positions where you see longevity and scarcity?

Ok.

and my point is made. you don't value RB as high and that is truth. well thank you for your opinion, your welcome for mine

 

[Macnalty]

The great myth is that if we didn't get Zeke at 4 we couldn't run the ball. Or that somehow there was a rule that we could only draft a RB in the 1st...instead of say grabbing Perkins who went in the 5th.

It's a pretty simple game of opportunity cost.

I agree with you, but the picks are made and I am on board just like all the other years, would I have done it differently, yessssss

 

[BrassCowboy]

First of all your statistics are off. RBs historically peak at 27. And there is then a precipitous fall off. And that's for the lucky ones who injury doesn't ruin long before that.

Miller is 24. His contract would have carried him through his 27 peak year. And then you would have moved on. Better still you wouldn't have blown the 4th overall pick in the National Football League draft.

Also...nobody hates Zeke the player. So stop with that nonsense.

didn't Miller sign with Texans? yeah, so why we talking about him? Besides EE will be way better IMO

you say peak at 27, isn't that from some kind of analytical study that AdamJJT put out there? well you know what. I call BS. First of all, I don't care what some numbers guy can come up with, I go with what actually is. Certainly not gonna pass on EE because of it. Second of all, we run an older style offense that thrives with a good running game. 2014 proves that. So your opinion based on some piece of paper does nothing to debunk what shows up on the field.

And human nature doesn't allow for us to be wrong, so of course, and this may not be you so don't take it wrong, there will be some who will be hurt if they are proven wrong and they would be if EE tears it up.

Dallas has made 4 great picks the last four years with first round pick, and this makes it #5. Admit it, they made a gret pick, you just think it should of been later but of course it wouldn't of been EE.

all opinions

 

[jobberone]

So what pass rusher were you looking at in this draft that was going to help Romo this year? Bosa?

I would have taken Ramsey. I balked at EE at 4 and Bosa is a solid guy maybe better. Never got warm and fuzzy over him though.

 

[cml750]

We had the 4th pick in the first two rounds, and I do not feel like we maximized the value at those picks. I attribute this to Jerry's influence, which seemed to be more prevalent this year than in the last few drafts.

1. In the first round, there was a trade back to be had with Baltimore. We didn't because Jerry did not want to risk losing EE. Even though Baltimore was not taking him. That extra pick from Baltimore could have been key in landing Lynch or Cook, whom we wanted over Dak. Jerry did not maximize the value of the 4th pick. Many will say that the only way to guarantee EE was to pick him at 4 (Baltimore could have been lying all along). That's fine. But it's also fixating on one player to the exclusion of value. But Jerry (and coaches) had to have EE. I like the player, I just don't like the process of getting him.

2. In the late first round, Jerry offered our 2nd and 3rd round picks to Seattle to trade for Lynch. Seattle traded to Denver instead. Jerry couldn't sleep because he thought he should have given more to guarantee he got him. Which affected how he looked at the next pick...

3. The second round was a panic pick. We know this because the original plan was to take Ogbah or Dodd and then trade back up into the 2nd round to take Jaylon Smith. Which means we originally valued Smith at the middle or bottom of the round. When Ogbah and Dodd were taken, we apparently had a deal with Chicago to trade back. But Jerry admitted he did pull the trigger because, again, he feared losing Smith. This was an impulse pick because of where we originally valued Smith and because Jerry couldn't sleep the night before after not giving up a little more to get Lynch. So, instead of sticking to the original valuation, he panicked and took Smith at 34. I'm not debating whether picking a "redshirt" player in the final years of "Romo's window" was the right or wrong move. I'm just saying we did not stick to our original valuation... because of Jerry.

Overall, I do not mind the picks (especially those we took in the later rounds), but this is not the draft I expected with the 4th overall pick. I am not whining, I just thought we'd be in a different place today after sitting out most of free agency.

I have to agree!!!

 

[slick325]

The Jaylon Smith pick was a head scratcher due to the uncertainty...that pick I had hoped netted a 2016 starter or major contributor. Obviously, if the nerve regenerates and he regains the form he had at Notre Dame then this draft is a major success. That's a big IF though.

Fingers crossed that this 2nd round gamble and the gamble on Gregory last year pay off!!! Those two are top 10 talents with question marks and high risk but...high reward potential.

 

[conner01]

I for one don't think EE's shelf life is limited to 5 years. He's 20 years old. He has good backups in Morris/McFadden to give him a rest. And has never suffered any leg injuries (knock on wood). I see no reason why we wouldn't give him a second contract at age 25.

His shelf life won't be 5 yrs but giving a RB a long term deal is risky. Personally I don't care if it's only 5 years, as long as it leads to winning in those 5 years

 

[conner01]

First I heard of that. I read their target was Ramsey. Link?

Nflnetwork has reported several times they wanted EE

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Here we go with these nameless sources again and no links to them.

Prima facia your standard on sources is untenable and it's easy to demonstrate: Woodward and Bernstein broke how Nixon's campaign was involved in the Watergate breakin using an unnamed source.

In general, you are ignorant to how the US press works. Sources are vetted by the publisher and it's editor to ensure credibility.

 

[Nova]

I'm haven't yet read through all the comments, but it's been reported that GARRETT was the person against the trade back at 4. He did not want to risk losing Easy EE.

 

[zrinkill]

Prima facia your standard on sources is untenable and it's easy to demonstrate: Woodward and Bernstein broke how Nixon's campaign was involved in the Watergate breakin using an unnamed source.

What a doofus ......... talking about politics is not allowed on this forum.