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I hope you are right! I hope this competition, improves OL more than what it was.

Competition isn't needed to improve the OL.

These dudes have pride, guts and BRAINS!!

Leary is the real deal.

It'd take a talent like no other to crack this line up.
 
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Is that someone's else's opinion or an assumption by you. I can not and will not believe that the front office makes that call. The trainers and the coaches makes that call 100% of the time.

The only reason the FO would make that call is if they were trading or cutting a player and wanted to make sure he was medical cleared so there won't be an injury settlement involved.

Is everybody today just too lazy to do a simple Google search?

But according to Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones, McFadden could already be on the field if the team wasn’t being a little extra cautious.

“We want to make sure that he’s 110 percent,” Jones said. “I think that’s been a little bit of his problem in the past. He wants to be out here and then comes out here 90 percent and then it doesn’t work out well. We want to make sure he’s 110 percent. He could very easily be out here right now, but we decided to not do it that way.”

Per the DMN.
 

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The crowds in Frisco will make it difficult for serious fans/bloggers to watch practice. It was bad enough in San Antonio.

Wow - I did not know that about San Antonio.

In Oxnard, I've been right on the fence and if they run a sweep your way you are convinced they're gonna take you out. You really get an appreciation of how fast and how violent the game is. I always think back to the sights and sounds of camp when I'm on my couch screaming and yelling at players. It's really a brutally tough game and I have a lot of respect for the guys who play it.
 

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Is everybody today just too lazy to do a simple Google search?

Just finished listening to "The Lunch Break" on Cowboys.com. At the 7:40 mark Brian Broaddus states that he talked to DMC today. Darren said he felt that he was ready to go 3-days ago but "THE TRAINERS" were being very cautious with him.

I might be lazy, but you sure are gullible!
 

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I thought we went through this Leary v. Collins stuff when he signed? There's a lot of development that goes on between college and the first 3-4 years in the NFL. Not just weight training, but repetitions, technique work, experience in the system, coaching.

Anybody who thought Collins was a shoe-in for a spot over a quality established player at the outset was not being realistic. It's the exception and not the rule for any rookie to come out of college and beat out a quality NFL starter.
 

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At this point, with the lack of depth at tackle and the ability for Bernadaue to play G and C, i see no reason not to move Collins to RT or even Swing tackle.

I want this kid on the field as quickly as possible to keep the 5 best OLon the field. That move would seem to do that.
 

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Granted, that's what he did in college, but his body type really is more prototypical guard. I think part of the concern is he may not move as well in space at an NFL level.
 

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Leary, can not be this good. Is Collins playing out of position, like he should be challenging for RT, or is he not that 1st rd talent, that he was suppose to be? I think Leary is good, but someone who was going to be a 1st rd pick, should be capable of beating him out.

How many first round talents could come in and block JJ Watt? Leary can, and has. Being a first round talent doesn't make you a great player from day one, Zack Martin (and Fredbeard to a lesser extent) aside.

I think our incredible luck at having first round O linemen come in and play outstanding football right away has spoiled us. That's the exception, not the rule.
 

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Leary is underrated on this board. Ask JJ Watt just how good Leary is. Watt found found out the hard way. Collins should be spending his time learning the RT position. Free is getting up in age and Collins should have the talent to replace him in a year or so.

This. Leary is a caged animal and has a mean streak (like Larry Allen). Not saying he is LA's caliber but he has the mental characteristics. Tell him he's too old, too hurt, too short and he'll prove you wrong all day long. He's prideful to be with the big 5 up front and what you want in battle. Give Collins a year to soak it in while learning our RT position and he'll be right there for us.
 

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This. Leary is a caged animal and has a mean streak (like Larry Allen). Not saying he is LA's caliber but he has the mental characteristics. Tell him he's too old, too hurt, too short and he'll prove you wrong all day long. He's prideful to be with the big 5 up front and what you want in battle. Give Collins a year to soak it in while learning our RT position and he'll be right there for us.

Let the big dogs allow the pup to eat some food. Learn where to piss on the fire hydrant. How to bite and attack!

It's like buying a young pit bull!
 

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I thought we went through this Leary v. Collins stuff when he signed? There's a lot of development that goes on between college and the first 3-4 years in the NFL. Not just weight training, but repetitions, technique work, experience in the system, coaching.

Anybody who thought Collins was a shoe-in for a spot over a quality established player at the outset was not being realistic. It's the exception and not the rule for any rookie to come out of college and beat out a quality NFL starter.

He is just not being viewed as he would if he were drafted per his status in the spring.

If he was Dallas' first round draft choice, people would be bouncing off the walls wondering why he is not starting, whether at guard or tackle.
 

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Please show me one place that had him in the 2nd.

Hey GB. I know this wasn't for me,but there were plenty (maybe 15-20%) that had him out of the 1st round. I looked into it long ago.
I think, for starters, OurLads and 2-3 NFL.com writers (including Daniel Jeremiah)

By far the majority had him in the 1st though.
 

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Wow - I did not know that about San Antonio.

In Oxnard, I've been right on the fence and if they run a sweep your way you are convinced they're gonna take you out. You really get an appreciation of how fast and how violent the game is. I always think back to the sights and sounds of camp when I'm on my couch screaming and yelling at players. It's really a brutally tough game and I have a lot of respect for the guys who play it.

I managed to get on the sideline at SA by "befriending" a lady that was able to get me access, but in general the fans are a beatdown if you're in the crowd. It's all about autographs and Romo, Dez, etc..

Austin with Jimmy was awesome. My very first training camp was in 1992. We were crossing one of the little streets on campus there and a golf cart rolls up with Jimmy driving and Jerry as the passenger. Jerry shook hands with us (I think he was checking out my GF) and then Jimmy accelerated away as I was shaking hands with Jerry.

This was obviously before they had won a Super Bowl, but even the following years still were not bad in terms of crowds.
 

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Bingo...that is what I thought also when I read that. The FO has no business telling coaches when or when not a player can come back to play!

That is what the doctors and trainers are for. So, that seems to not make much sense if true.

During the year it would be different but when it comes to the PUP that is front office territory.

The the FO also cuts or keeps players that the coaches don't agree with.

I have no doubt that Garrett would have paid Murray to stay if it was completely up to him.
 

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Leary, can not be this good. Is Collins playing out of position, like he should be challenging for RT, or is he not that 1st rd talent, that he was suppose to be? I think Leary is good, but someone who was going to be a 1st rd pick, should be capable of beating him out.

In fairness to Collins, he's still a rookie, albeit one with special talents. Leary has a distinct advantage having the experience he does, however. Collins is just now getting his feet wet and learning the pro ways of doing things. I'm expecting him to make a big push to start about the time the regular season is about to start. If that doesn't materialize, expect him to make the necessary progress in the offseason and make his return count in a big way.
 

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During the year it would be different but when it comes to the PUP that is front office territory.

The the FO also cuts or keeps players that the coaches don't agree with.

I have no doubt that Garrett would have paid Murray to stay if it was completely up to him.
And Garrett will likely have issues ever cutting ties with Doug Free and Marinelli the same with Nick Hayden.
 

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During the year it would be different but when it comes to the PUP that is front office territory.

The the FO also cuts or keeps players that the coaches don't agree with.

I have no doubt that Garrett would have paid Murray to stay if it was completely up to him.

That happens on many teams
You can't keep every player
If there was no cap ware and Murray would still be here
But in today's nfl the business side of the game is much more important and decision can't always be about talent alone
I hated seeing both of those guys go but both to me was the right decision
 

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During the year it would be different but when it comes to the PUP that is front office territory.

The the FO also cuts or keeps players that the coaches don't agree with.

I have no doubt that Garrett would have paid Murray to stay if it was completely up to him.

I hear what you are saying but that's not what we're talking about. You posted that you heard on a sports talk show that that DMC wasn't practicing because the Front Office said he couldn't, though the coaches wanted him too.
 
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