Time to bring back Vinny and cut Romo!

[Nors]

Find me one example of someone that counts saying Romo is having a great, excellent or exceptional training camp.

Bust out the proverbial crickets.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31069

Body of evidence stacking up for Romo. Show me the same for Henson?

 

[Rush 2112]

You said Great Camp. Not one play. Let's see it.

 

[Rush 2112]

Wow. Is that in tape over at dc.com?

I want to hear what they said.

http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/cowboys/demand/talkincowboys_080805.rm&proto=rtsp&rbnkey=

19:40 Mark

Was that Mick calling Romo Jason Garrett?

 

[Nors]

Drew Bledsoe led the first-team offense to three field goals in his three offensive drives.

OXNARD, Calif. - Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones said Saturday's training-camp scrimmage isn't a fair barometer to judge his backup quarterbacks.

And that's a good thing, because for the most part, there wasn't a lot of excitement generated by either Drew Henson or Tony Romo, and starter Drew Bledsoe wasn't exactly stellar, himself.

All in all, the scrimmage was nothing more than a glorified practice, here in front of nearly 5,500 fans at the River Ridge Sports Complex, as the Cowboys conducted 10 series, consisting anywhere from eight to 10 plays each.

Both Henson and Romo rotated with the second and third teams, while Bledsoe conducted three offensive series and part of a two-minute drill with the first unit.

While Romo did orchestrate the scrimmage's only touchdown drive, he also threw the only interception of the day. Unofficially, Romo was 14-of-19 for 153 yards.

Bledsoe, who led the offense to three field-goals, was 10-of-16 for 93 yards.

Henson, who has been struggling here during the first week of camp, continued his slump, completing only 4-of-13 passes for 26 yards.


Body of evidence is adding up - we shall see

 

[Rush 2112]

This typical Nors. Did you see the part where none of the QB's were stellar.

Where is Romo is having a GREAT CAMP?

Iron Maiden said it best.

Run To The Hills.

Continue to twist the opposite of what is going on into your favor.

 

[Nors]

Romo what 14-19-153 Touchdown

Henson 4-13-26

The facts stream in -

 

[big dog cowboy]

OXNARD, Calif. - Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones said Saturday's training-camp scrimmage isn't a fair barometer to judge his backup quarterbacks.

Which means everything that happened during that scrimmage can be tossed out with the weekly garbage.

 

[Kilyin]

Don't get me wrong, the last thing I want to see is Vinny in a Cowboys uniform again... even though he has his moments.

Who is to say Vinny wouldn't turn it down and announce his retirement, if Parcells made the call? Would he want to play for Dallas? Or would he do it for the money alone and just go through the motions? (like he did last year). Vinny just isn't the type to step up and take charge of a team.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I agree Henson wont start this year or the nxt. So the earliest the would start would be 2007. He'll be 27 and thats if he starts then.

Staubach wasn't named starter until he was 30. What was your point again?

 

[silver]

we need vinny like we need a hole in the head. might aswell bring back steve pelluer. he might be younger.

 

[silver]

Staubach wasn't named starter until he was 30. What was your point again?

same as steve young. make that hall of famer steve young

 

[Kangaroo]

Not defending Vinny here....but...you are a bit over the top with your comments.

Vinny was 11th in the league in total yards last year.

He was also 1 of only 13 QB's to play in all 16 games last year.

Yea and Vinny turned the ball over in 13 of are 16 games last year I have all types of post about it last year a weekly tally the last 5 games of the season. Lets make a note there he threw an int or fumbled the ball in 13 of 16 games. He had multiple int or fumble+int in like 8 of his 16 games so lets see he did what to help us lose a lot Vinny suxs and I rather run a young kid with no exp out there because he has the chance to do that bad as well.

 

[kartr]

Whats with all of the bogus ideas starting to surface? Do these guys not have any sense? Are you KIDDING?????!!!!! No way in hades does Vinny deserve a chance to be our back-up. He has no business in the league anymore. He is too old, not accurate enough, and has no where close to the ideal velocity on his throws. Not to mention, when he runs, it looks like me walking fast. Romo is the #2 guy. Drew Henson should be put on the practice squad, and a veteran should be brought in. I didnt like Henson last year, I dont like him now, but if being on the PS would help him learn how to play football and shape him into what we want him to be, I say go for it. But there is no way that I want to see Henson on the field this year. Bledsoe, Romo, mystery man. That it is what the most logical solution would be.

BTW-I'm not Henson bashing, I just dont think he has what we need for him to be on the roster, I feel he is a waste of a roster spot.

Welcome aboard. It's nice to see a little clarity of thinking.

 

[kartr]

Vinny looked good at the start of the season last year but because he is old he couldnt hold up over the whole season. Thats why he should be a back up and if someone needs to start a game or 2 then he is head and shoulders above Romo.


So what if Bledsoe goes down for a month? or the rest of the year? Where can Vinny do us good there? Vinny was inconsistent from the get go, and I dont think he would do us any good. Shoot me for being logical, but that is my opinion.

And I might add, Vinnie's career winning percentage is 42%, transalation, he is a 4-12 qb for his career.

 

[Mike 1967]

Yea and Vinny turned the ball over in 13 of are 16 games last year I have all types of post about it last year a weekly tally the last 5 games of the season. Lets make a note there he threw an int or fumbled the ball in 13 of 16 games. He had multiple int or fumble+int in like 8 of his 16 games so lets see he did what to help us lose a lot Vinny suxs and I rather run a young kid with no exp out there because he has the chance to do that bad as well.

I'm not arguing for or against Vinny's skill as a player. I am also not arguing for Vinny over a younger player at the backup position. Please don't attempt to put words in my mouth.

My argument is that the poster was over the top when stating that it was ludicrous to consider Vinny a backup because of his age.

His numbers last year and his durability support that argument.

 

[kartr]

Last off season before Vinny signed, I thought it would be a bad idea. I thought Vinny was a year older and not a year better. That isn't a plus for a guy that was at best average over his entire career. Funny how my feelings on him have not changed to the present time. Give the kids a chance in the pre-season games. They will make mistakes. If they have to play in the regular season, they will make mistakes. That is what young QBs do.

This season is about trying to win, but it is also about trying to build for the future. Bringing in Vinny slows any future growth down and for what. What if Bledsoe gets hurt? Vinny isn't going to automatically become a good QB and step in and lead this team. I would rather rally around a young, inexperienced guy than a washed up QB.

But a washed up old guy is better than two inexperienced young scrubs.

 

[kartr]

Not defending Vinny here....but...you are a bit over the top with your comments.

Vinny was 11th in the league in total yards last year.

He was also 1 of only 13 QB's to play in all 16 games last year.

I've always liked Vinny personally, but if Bledsoe misses any substantial playing time, we'll still not make the playoffs and those two youngsters will make us laughing-stocks, so neither Vinny or the scrubs make any sense as backups.

 

[Trophy#6]

The reason I say keep Henson instead of Romo even though Romo is playing better now; simple.

Romo is what he is and thats a 3rd string QB and maybe a # 2 QB someday. There isnt much upside.

Even With Henson struggling he has all the tools and potential to someday become a starting QB. Maybe not this year or next but in time he has a chance.

Sorry to burst your bubble...but Henson is what he is too. And that is, lucky to see the field before he's 30.

Vinny Testeverde is 100x the Qb now that Henson will be in his prime...if he ever reaches a "prime". If VT can beat him out soundly for the starting job, Bledsoe is going to be doing that for 5-6 more years. Really now, yall think we'll still be waiting on Henson then? Lol. Oh hell..

If nobody beleives that, believe this...Bledsoe is not going to just turn that starting job over anytime soon. He's here to "join the likes of Staubach and Aikman". He's back with the one coach whom above all else has had the most faith in him. Give him one young stud WR and he's got one sweet looking arsenal of talent to play with for his entire time here. He will fight and scratch and claw for as long as is humanly possible for him to do it...all to play the most glorified position in all of pro sports..........starting Quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys!

This isn't pubescent Quincy Carter writing a book report. This is a capable, talented, qb, stepping into a dream situation, and he plans on making the absolute most of it, period.

If people really want to focus their eyes on the future of the position, my suggetion is watching some High School games. That's where our next QB is right now. Not sitting on the bench, waiting for midnight, for when he turns back into a baseball losing pumpkin with cross-eyes.

 

[kartr]

I seem to remember a certain other QB who had a very long layoff from football after we drafted him. By the time he came to camp full time he too was 27 years old and didn't even see regular starting action for 2 more years which made him 29 by the time he became the Cowboys full time starter.

Lets at least give Henson a chance and see what he can do, even if it takes another season or two. It's not like there are NFL pro bowl caliber QBs just hanging around waiting for a team to give them a call. Besides if a guy is brought in to be a backup I wouldn't want VT, I'd much rather see Tim Couch brought in over Vinny.

I Henson should be given a chance too---on some other team, like the Patriots.
I would think if he's so good, that they would want him as Brady's backup and heir apparent, since they played in the same system in college.

 

[Mike 1967]

I've always liked Vinny personally, but if Bledsoe misses any substantial playing time, we'll still not make the playoffs and those two youngsters will make us laughing-stocks, so neither Vinny or the scrubs make any sense as backups.

Personally I think Vinny is a decent option as a backup QB....so long as he does not have to play more than 2-3 games in a season.

But...I would definitely prefer to have a young player in that position that is being groomed as the future starter. Especially when your current starter is over 30.

But...I would not choose to have a young player over an old vet at the Backup position if the young player was not able to step in and win.

So ultimately my great hope is that either Romo or Henso will step up. But if they cannot...then I would prefer to have Vinny in the fold for insurance. I think he has enough left in the tank to be a part time bus driver if required.

But again...I WOULD PREFER to have a good promising Romo or Henson or other young up and comer in that position.