Tipping your waitress?

[Springs1]

You google waitresses fault, why?

To see who I can prove wrong. I love blogging.

 

[Springs1]

No such thing as demands?

de·mand   [dih-mand, -mahnd] Show IPA
noun
6.the act of demanding.
7.something that is demanded.
8.an urgent or pressing requirement: demands upon one's time.
9.Economics .
a.the desire to purchase, coupled with the power to do so.
b.the quantity of goods that buyers will take at a particular price.
10.a requisition; a legal claim: The demands of the client could not be met.

Odd, they seem to exist in every dictionary.

I am talking about in "RESTAURANT SERVICE"

 

[Cythim]

This reminds me of when I was driving to a restaurant the other day. This poor car was trying to get out of a parking lot but traffic was too heavy and they had been sitting there for a few minutes. I decided to stop and let the car go and some moron whips around me, flips me off, then proceeds to almost drive the other car off the road. They lost five seconds of their day because I was being courteous and decided that was worth almost killing someone over.

 

[Springs1]

This reminds me of when I was driving to a restaurant the other day. This poor car was trying to get out of a parking lot but traffic was too heavy and they had been sitting there for a few minutes. I decided to stop and let the car go and some moron whips around me, flips me off, then proceeds to almost drive the other car off the road. They lost five seconds of their day because I was being courteous and decided that was worth almost killing someone over.

You weren't being "COURTEOUS" to that driver **********BEHIND*********** YOU WERE YOU THAT HAD *RIGHT-OF-WAY. WHY DOES THE WORLD OF JERK DRIVERS LIKE YOURSELF ALWAYS CONSIDER THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE RIGHT-OF-WAY, HUH?

YOU *DESERVED* WHAT YOU GOT!! I HATE PEOPLE WHO BLOCK PEOPLE!!

You know what when I see a car when I back out, I back INTO my space and think about the person that has right-of-way. Now obviously, if they have their turn signal on and want my space, I will then proceed to get out of the parking space.

WHY do you JUST THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE COMING OUT AND *NEVER* CONSIDER THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PEOPLE, HUH? I HATE YOU, DESPISE DRIVERS LIKE YOU!!

It's not nice to the person behind you that you are letting in. YOU DESERVED that flipping off. YOU JUST BLOCKED TRAFFIC.

 

[Springs1]

They lost five seconds of their day because I was being courteous and decided that was worth almost killing someone over.

Why should the person backing out's time be some MORE IMPORTANT than the people that have right-of-way, huh? I avoid parking spaces that I can't get out easily. The times I didn't I had a wait. It was MY FAULT I waited. I don't go just because someone let's. I tell them "YOU GO, YOU HAVE RIGHT-OF-WAY. That's what the driver that backed up should have done and you shouldn't have let them out.

 

[pupulehaole]

Bottom line is who gives a ****? If a waitress sucks then I tip them crappily, if they are doing their job then they get tipped a normal 20%. I wouldn't want to do their crap job lol (just my opinion) so I tip well usually. I don't know how this can turn into a debate lol.

 

[Kendo]

This reminds me of when I was driving to a restaurant the other day. This poor car was trying to get out of a parking lot but traffic was too heavy and they had been sitting there for a few minutes. I decided to stop and let the car go and some moron whips around me, flips me off, then proceeds to almost drive the other car off the road. They lost five seconds of their day because I was being courteous and decided that was worth almost killing someone over.

I see what you did there

 

[SaltwaterServr]

We need one of these threads every offseason.

 

[Cythim]

You weren't being "COURTEOUS" to that driver **********BEHIND*********** YOU WERE YOU THAT HAD *RIGHT-OF-WAY. WHY DOES THE WORLD OF JERK DRIVERS LIKE YOURSELF ALWAYS CONSIDER THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE RIGHT-OF-WAY, HUH?

YOU *DESERVED* WHAT YOU GOT!! I HATE PEOPLE WHO BLOCK PEOPLE!!

You know what when I see a car when I back out, I back INTO my space and think about the person that has right-of-way. Now obviously, if they have their turn signal on and want my space, I will then proceed to get out of the parking space.

WHY do you JUST THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE COMING OUT AND *NEVER* CONSIDER THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PEOPLE, HUH? I HATE YOU, DESPISE DRIVERS LIKE YOU!!

It's not nice to the person behind you that you are letting in. YOU DESERVED that flipping off. YOU JUST BLOCKED TRAFFIC.

There is no right of way in a parking lot. If someone is this anal about losing 5 seconds of their day they deserve all of the bad karma headed their way.

 

[Springs1]

There is no right of way in a parking lot. If someone is this anal about losing 5 seconds of their day they deserve all of the bad karma headed their way.

Actually there is. Backing UP IS ILLEGAL unless it is *CLEAR* with NO TRAFFIC. Blocking traffic is illegal. So if I back into YOU(YOUR BODY), you wouldn't SUE ME? BACKING UP IS THE PERSON AT FAULT IN AN ACCIDENT ANYWHERE.

Also, WHY should the person *BEHIND* you lose his 5 seconds? YOU AREN'T A POLICE OFFICER DIRECTING TRAFFIC, so you have ZERO RIGHTS TO DO THIS CRAP, ZERO!! YOU WERE RUDE, YOU!!

WHY is the person backing out have a KING OR QUEEN TYPE OF SITUATION and the person in the back of you doesn't matter, huh? WHY THEIR FEELINGS DON'T MATTER WHEN THE PERSON BACKING OUT DOESN'T HAVE RIGHT-OF-WAY?

 

[Cythim]

Actually there is. Backing UP IS ILLEGAL unless it is *CLEAR* with NO TRAFFIC.

Also, WHY should the person *BEHIND* you lose his 5 seconds? YOU AREN'T A POLICE OFFICER DIRECTING TRAFFIC, so you have ZERO RIGHTS TO DO THIS CRAP, ZERO!! YOU WERE RUDE, YOU!!

There is no legal standard in a parking lot, it is private property. As the lead vehicle I have a right to drive as I please so long as I do not break laws or endanger lives, the car behind me has to wait his turn or get out from behind me.

 

[Springs1]

There is no legal standard in a parking lot, it is private property. As the lead vehicle I have a right to drive as I please so long as I do not break laws or endanger lives, the car behind me has to wait his turn or get out from behind me.

NO, I can go around you as I have and the guy did, because you *BLOCKED* TRAFFIC. THAT WAS ILLEGAL REGARDLESS of private property or not. BLOCKING TRAFFIC IS ILLEGAL!!

So you are saying I can back my car up from a space into your car and not be at fault? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

 

[cowboy_ron]

I've had this discussion with friends for years....I don't want to sound "cheap" because I'm not, actually I tip very well, even to the point of being told I overtip at times.

I'm not sure where this even got started that it's the customers responsibility to pay a good portion of a restaurant employees salary...not many other businesses expect others to pay their employees.

Tips should be because the waiter/waitress provided a great service, not just because they brought you a meal that is most likely overpriced to begin with and then forgets about you knowing their tip will be automatically added on anyway.

I drink several glasses of tea when I eat out and let my server know that in advance. This is my guage, if I run out of tea I most likely will not leave a tip at all. That's not taking care of the customer.

 

[Cythim]

NO, I can go around you as I have and the guy did, because you *BLOCKED* TRAFFIC. THAT WAS ILLEGAL REGARDLESS of private property or not. BLOCKING TRAFFIC IS ILLEGAL!!

So you are saying I can back my car up from a space into your car and not be at fault? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

It is not illegal because it is not a roadway. You can be at fault but won't get a failure to yield ticket because it is in a parking lot.

 

[JonJon]

I dont get to pay less for the meal if I didn't like it. I don't get to pay less for a movie if it was boring. You tip 15-20% because both you and the person providing you a service that YOU have requested to receive expect it to be paid. It's a payment for services rendered, not charity. Avoiding payment makes you a dishonorable person.

I disagree. If you hire someone to mow your lawn and trim your hedges, but instead they only mow half the lawn, leaving several spotty sections, and cut down your tree, do you still pay them for the full service rendered? I sure wouldn't. I would pay them for whatever they did, but dock them for the errors made. That doesn't make someone dishonorable. Being dishonorable is refusing to pay after the person fulfilled their duties.

 

[Cythim]

I've had this discussion with friends for years....I don't want to sound "cheap" because I'm not, actually I tip very well, even to the point of being told I overtip at times.

I'm not sure where this even got started that it's the customers responsibility to pay a good portion of a restaurant employees salary...not many other businesses expect others to pay their employees.

Tips should be because the waiter/waitress provided a great service, not just because they brought you a meal that is most likely overpriced to begin with and then forgets about you knowing their tip will be automatically added on anyway.

I drink several glasses of tea when I eat out and let my server know that in advance. This is my guage, if I run out of tea I most likely will not leave a tip at all. That's not taking care of the customer.

My drink is typically my gauge as well, but it takes pretty terrible service for me to leave no tip at all. I have been getting bad service lately because restaurants have been using a minimal waitstaff and really not caring about quality of service. I feel bad for the server because you can see them covering more tables than they should , but it also means more tips for the server even if they are smaller.

 

[Springs1]

It is not illegal because it is not a roadway. You can be at fault but won't get a failure to yield ticket because it is in a parking lot.

Don't you get that if I am at fault, you aren't ALLOWED to back out until it's CLEAR!! By you stopping traffic is rude, wrong, and not legal regardless of if it's a parking lot or not, because if I back up into your car, *I* will pay the price, not you. So see, there are still LAWS in a parking lot. YOU LOSE!!

 

[Springs1]

I have been getting bad service lately because restaurants have been using a minimal waitstaff and really not caring about quality of service.

I truly don't feel it's mostly that. I feel it's more LAZY servers that don't want to BUST THEIR BUTT for their money more than anything. I am finding MORE AND MORE servers not knowing the menus, even MANAGERS, it's PATHETIC that I know MORE THAN THEY DO!!

 

[cowboy_ron]

My drink is typically my gauge as well, but it takes pretty terrible service for me to leave no tip at all. I have been getting bad service lately because restaurants have been using a minimal waitstaff and really not caring about quality of service. I feel bad for the server because you can see them covering more tables than they should , but it also means more tips for the server even if they are smaller.

I take that into account, if they're excessively busy, I realize they are just one person, it's when I see they aren't that busy and I don't get good service that I was referring to

 

[Cythim]

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I take that into account, if they're excessively busy, I realize they are just one person, it's when I see they aren't that busy and I don't get good service that I was referring to

Right, that was more or less commentary on how hard it can be to decide the tip amount when you know the waitstaff is being overworked.