Tired of Bledsoe Haters (my 1st real post)

[Bob Sacamano]

Didn't Brady last year have a banged up offensivie, a banged up RB and no-name receivers, also a banged up DL and a scrub secondary, yet he still gets his team into the playoffs. Excuses seem to follow Bledsoe like a black cloud. Blame it on the rain or earth wind and fire, but never blame him.

this coming from the man STILL giving excuses for Quinthy?

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Manning is 3-6 in the playoffs with a QB rating of 89.1. His best playoff game was a 158.33(highest on the scale) and his lowest was 31.25. In 5 of those games, his QB rating was over 80. The remaining 4 games his rating was below 70.

Bledsoe is 4-3 in the playoffs. One of those victories he came in as the back up. His QB rating in the playoffs is 54.9. His highest rating is only 77.9 and his lowest rating is 38.33.

I think Manning still has something to prove in the post season. When he is bad, he is very bad, but he has played some good playoff games. I think it is very fair to criticize Manning's post season. He hasn't done it when the pressure is on. Bledsoe is given too much credit for 2 AFC championships. The truth is that he just held on while the defense and special teams won those games. He has played just as poorly as Manning in the post season. Manning even has more appearances.

Another thing I forgot to add....mannings 3 playoff victories:

1) at home against the overrated broncos who's secondary was horrible
2) see above
3) one road win at KC who's defense couldn't stop an NCAA team.

These were the 3 games that he posted a 120+ QB rating in, racking up tons of yards against bad defenses (just like he did in 2003 when he set the TD record)....therefore inflating the numbers from the 6 losses in which he played pathetic. I could go on and on with this, but I will start a manning vs. Bledsoe thread at another time.

Also shifting gears back to Bledsoe, don't forget in 1998 he got to the playoffs winning 2 huge division games back to back with a pin sticking out of his finger but Scot Zolak had to start because Drew simply couldn't go. Who knows what would have happened that year if he was able to play in the postseason.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

OK, I'll preface this by saying that I am a HUGE Aikman fan...

That being said, I don't see how you can criticize Bled4MVP for questioning whether Aikman was a "system" QB, and how he won a lot because of the players around him, then turn around and make this argument. If you want to give credit to Aikman for his titles, you have to give credit to Bledsoe for his titles (I realize their conference championships compared to Super Bowls).

You can't have it both ways. Aikman is going into the HOF, and there were critics that he may not be first ballot worthy because he had so much talent around him. Those critics drive me and most people here up the wall. But if you're going to give Aikman credit, then turn around and say Bledsoe is given too much credit for his championships since he had a great defense and special teams, then that's a double standard.

In regards to Manning v. Bledsoe, don't give me QB ratings... most overrated stat in the game. Give me wins and losses.

Hi peplaw06, be careful when you agree with me or you might get labeled a troll or one of nors aliases, because this is what happens when you post factual information regarding Bledsoe or argue that he's a very good QB.

 

[burmafrd]

Guess we should have expected Q's man lover to show up.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

why can't people just argue intelligently, with a clear and level-head, to shut him up? Nors light pisses me off just as much as he does you guys, but I don't get caught up in it and criticize Bledsoe to spite him

Michael Winichi does it because Bledsoe didn't sign an autograph hehe

:laugh1: :laugh2:

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Maybe you've been under a rock, but we made the playoffs a couple of years ago with a lesser experienced qb and running back. We also the beat Bledsoe that same year with those same players while Bledsoe hasn't gotten a team to the playoffs in 8 years despite having an excellent supporting cast. In the game against Bledsoe's Bills, he made the critical fumble, not our lesser experienced qb, who threw the only td pass of the game, our lesser experienced qb, not Bledsoe. As for last year, Bledsoe lost at least four games by himself, the Raiders, the Commanders, the Hawks and the Broncos. He makes the same errors in judgement now that he did in his first 3 years and the best OL in the league can't fix that problem.

WOW....I'm not going to even waste time picking this nonsense apart. :laugh1: :laugh2: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh2:

 

[ghst187]

Drew Bledsoe is a very good QB in times of sparse QB talent. He's also a consumate professional.
I don't think he's the best QB in the league by any means but its nice to have a QB that can throw the ball accurately, can read defenses, lead, and play consistently. And honestly, there aren't very many QBs in the league right now that I'd prefer to have over Bledsoe.
Brady, Peyton Womanning, Carson Palmer...and that's about it. There are a few maybe's in Delhomme and Hasselback but that's all I can think of.

 

[skinsscalper]

Didn't Brady last year have a banged up offensivie, a banged up RB and no-name receivers, also a banged up DL and a scrub secondary, yet he still gets his team into the playoffs. Excuses seem to follow Bledsoe like a black cloud. Blame it on the rain or earth wind and fire, but never blame him.

Brady also played in the weakest division in all of professional sports last year.

SS

 

[Cowchips]

He won us alot of games but at the same time lost us a few. He's a very good qb but until the oline is fixed we'll never know just how good he can become.

Every QB will lose a few. Ask Tom Brady how he liked the butt whoppin he took from KC, SD and Denver last year. Brady looked pathetic in all three games and he's supposed to be the best.

 

[Cowchips]

Great Post...

The thing is, IMO, that Bledsoe is not the bus driver we had in all our QBs after Troy. Bledsoe doesn't manage the games, he goes out and wins them. If he loses some games on the way, it's fine. Atleast he's winning more games than he's losing...

If Dallas had any kind of kicking game last year, Bledsoe probably would have led them to a 13-3 record and possibly another SB. The best thing that's happened for Bledsoe's game for 2006 won't be TO, it will be Vanderjadt.

 

[SultanOfSix]

"Get the popcorn ready?" Where have I heard that before?

 

[juck]

People act like Drew Bledsoe was the cause of us losing last year???.......Drew Bledsoe has been nothing but a blessing to this team. It seem like everytime I get on here and I read threads its people that call themselves Cowboy fans accusing him and comparing him to another teams quarterback? You cant compare quarterbacks from different teams to the quarterback that we have here because those are different systems! How can you compare Big Ben to Drew Bledsoe.... Last time I checked Pittsburgh is a dominate run team with a dominuate defense and Ben never usually throws more than 15 times a game but you compare him to Drew? Unfortunately we dont have a run dominate team like them so you cant compare them! You say Drew Bress he also had LT and Antonio Gates? You say Peyton Manning but he had James, Harrison & Wayne and a great offensive line.... Have you ever seen how bad he messes him when he is rushed?!?!? and you talk about Bledsoe? I not making excused im just stating facts....thats all quarterbacks play with different systems and there teams are totally different than the Cowboys. I mean how do you know if these quarterbacks would be any good in Dallas? The thing is you dont know? He may not be the Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and these other quarterbacks you guys wanted but you have to look at it this way would these other guys fit into the system that we run in Dallas???? I dont think so....Drew Bledsoe is the perfect QB for this team and all the coaches of the Cowboys know that! Everybody always say its only because of Bill Parcells.....He is a smart coach and he knows that Bledsoe fits into the superbowl run that we are going to make this season. As a matter of fact there were a couple games last year when our offensive line was messed up and you seen Bledsoe scrabbling out of the pocket to make plays himself to try to the win game.......you cant fault him! We missed the playoffs because of field goals kicks not Bledsoe! He is an awesome qb but he wont get the credit he deserves until we win a championship because no one wants to see his positives and that includes Cowboys fans!

 

[on8thdayGodcreatedBledsoe]

Drew Bledsoe is just now entering the prime of his career. He is reunited with a coach who will intimidate the mental errors out of him, and for the first time in his illustrious career he has a receiver who can snatch his fastball from the arms of defenders.

The people who criticize Bledstud are the folks who do not have a sophisticated understanding of the game of football. They can see and comprehend what is happening with the ball, but they do not grasp the finer points of the game. This is why I wasn't the least bit surprised when Parcells grabbed Bledhero about 5 seconds after he was released by the Bills. Parcells understands the circumstances that lead to Studsoe's problems in Buffalo.

I am still very concerned about the offensive line. I feel strongly that Dallas will use it's first round pick on an offensive lineman. In fact, I would not be at all surprised if they traded up for one of the top guys. Also, T.O. is going to alleviate a lot of the pressure on Bledsoe. Those DB's will not be able to blitz with the same reckless abandon they did last year because to do so will be to free up T.O. And unlike so many undersized receivers of Bledstudsoe's past, T.O. goes to the ball and demands it.

Bledsoe will have his best season ever this year. 30 TD's and a deep playoff run, at least.

 

[dbair1967]

Didn't Brady last year have a banged up offensivie, a banged up RB and no-name receivers, also a banged up DL and a scrub secondary, yet he still gets his team into the playoffs. Excuses seem to follow Bledsoe like a black cloud. Blame it on the rain or earth wind and fire, but never blame him.

they had some injuries on the OL, but he has had outstanding WR's and TE's for several years now

but Brady is an excellent QB, one of the top 3 or 4 in football

David

 

[dbair1967]

As for last year, Bledsoe lost at least four games by himself, the Raiders, the Commanders, the Hawks and the Broncos. He makes the same errors in judgement now that he did in his first 3 years and the best OL in the league can't fix that problem.

the ignorance never ceases

Q-troll strikes again

David

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

If Dallas had any kind of kicking game last year, Bledsoe probably would have led them to a 13-3 record and possibly another SB. The best thing that's happened for Bledsoe's game for 2006 won't be TO, it will be Vanderjadt.

Thank you for realizing that as godly as Drew is on the football field, he can't play defense or kick field goals.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Drew Bledsoe is just now entering the prime of his career. He is reunited with a coach who will intimidate the mental errors out of him, and for the first time in his illustrious career he has a receiver who can snatch his fastball from the arms of defenders.

The people who criticize Bledstud are the folks who do not have a sophisticated understanding of the game of football. They can see and comprehend what is happening with the ball, but they do not grasp the finer points of the game. This is why I wasn't the least bit surprised when Parcells grabbed Bledhero about 5 seconds after he was released by the Bills. Parcells understands the circumstances that lead to Studsoe's problems in Buffalo.

I am still very concerned about the offensive line. I feel strongly that Dallas will use it's first round pick on an offensive lineman. In fact, I would not be at all surprised if they traded up for one of the top guys. Also, T.O. is going to alleviate a lot of the pressure on Bledsoe. Those DB's will not be able to blitz with the same reckless abandon they did last year because to do so will be to free up T.O. And unlike so many undersized receivers of Bledstudsoe's past, T.O. goes to the ball and demands it.

Bledsoe will have his best season ever this year. 30 TD's and a deep playoff run, at least.

It sure is nice to see more and more knowledgeable football fans come out of the woodwork and share their thoughts about the one of the best QB's in the business.

 

[Kilyin]

big_neil is an amateur. Don't let him push your buttons. That's giving him way too much credit.

 

[playboidolla]

Maybe you've been under a rock, but we made the playoffs a couple of years ago with a lesser experienced qb and running back. We also the beat Bledsoe that same year with those same players while Bledsoe hasn't gotten a team to the playoffs in 8 years despite having an excellent supporting cast. In the game against Bledsoe's Bills, he made the critical fumble, not our lesser experienced qb, who threw the only td pass of the game, our lesser experienced qb, not Bledsoe. As for last year, Bledsoe lost at least four games by himself, the Raiders, the Commanders, the Hawks and the Broncos. He makes the same errors in judgement now that he did in his first 3 years and the best OL in the league can't fix that problem.

We made the playoffs with a lesser qb and running back because we had the number 1 ranked defense last time i checked.....so maybe you must have been under a rock......What does what he did in that game have anything to do with what i stated in the thread? He lost 4 games by himself?!?!?!?!? thats pure BS!!! One player doesnt lose a game....Its a team effort....Everytime you look at a game after it was played you can always see the mistakes that all the players made, not just the quarterback. You can always say what if this what if that? but reality is reality!

 

[SuspectCorner]

IMO, Dallas' offense looks real good at the skill positions. they have a budding star at TE in jason witten. at RB they have a guy who can flash into secondaries in julius jones and a guy, marion barber III, who can hit the hole and grind out the tough yard as well as take a swing pass or screen and make something good happen. at WR they have, arguably, the most potent over-the-middle threat in the NFL in terrell owens and a flyer who can make insanely great toe-tapping sideline and endzone catches look routine (terry glenn). add the sure hands and daredevil route-running of patrick crayton, too. i'd like to see more production from the FB position this year - but in this offense it's not absolutely necessary.

i don't harbor any more doubts about drew bledsoe. he showed me last year he has a gun that rivals ANY in the NFL. the legs were never there but we knew that coming in. give him time, and a receiver with a half-step, he will waylay any secondary out there. anybody who claims bledsoe is a weak link on this team has got to be blind. he's a very solid veteran QB with legit HOF aspirations.

which brings me to the true weak links of the offense.

jones and parcells have taken steps in FA to shore up the O-line. it won't end there. i suspect they use either or a 1st or 2nd-round pick on the line. whether it's a justice in the 1st or a jonathan scott in he 2nd... they will add some young studs to this unit. i believe that will be the teams primary focus for the remainder of the offseason and TC. because they have the horses on offense - they just need an open track to blaze.