To all you Roy Williams bashers out there

[Dallaslullaby]

roy has played bad most of the time but in an ideal world he turns the corner in the next few weeks and becomes an asset

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Roy Williams doesn't suck.

He is still a quality player.

He is just not worth $9 Million a year and the draft picks we gave to get him.

 

[Bach]

I take a proven player over a million picks.

Roy is proven, he isn't proven to you folks. Maybe not even to Romo, but he can play.

He could always play.

He may be proven, a proven underachiever.

I'd take a million picks over a proven underachiever. I'd take a dozen first day picks over a proven pro bowler.

Look at the Herschel trade. I doubt you'd have made that one, right? Seeing how you'd take an underachiever like Roy over a million picks.

Myself, I'd take a first and third over Roy.

Of course, when you have a GM who can't evaluate college talent, then you are prone to overpay for underachieving veterans.

 

[bigtach87]

Halfway through the season I was listening to the radio and they quoted the unofficial stats on his drops. At that time, they said it was around 5. They were trying to compare him to TO. Unfortunately, I knew for a fact he had 3 the very game before, not to mention the at least one a game before that. This unofficial stat was dead wrong, and I can't trust the numbers quoted in that article because I know they missed a lot in the beginning of the season, if not the entire season.

 

[adbutcher]

If it wasn't Roy it would be someone else they would be crying about. It what whiners do.

Wise words.

 

[adbutcher]

Roy Williams doesn't suck.

He is still a quality player.

He is just not worth $9 Million a year and the draft picks we gave to get him.

The truest post in this thread.

 

[skinsscalper]

It seems like most are forgetting that Roy has 7 TD's on the season, which is second on the team and ranks tied for 16 in the league. Then theres also the fact that he had a TD last night (heck of a play by Romo), but you guys want to forget about that one and focus on his drops. One of the drops i honestly thought was PI live and have yet to see a replay and the other drop was a simple case of turning his head and trying to run before he caught the ball. Comeon who hasnt had one of those before, haha im sure everyone on here has done it playing back yard football AT LEAST ONCE in our lives and other professionals do it quite a bit themselves.

Everyone wants to complain about all the drops that he has had this year, if you had any common sense and knew football, you would know that at least half if not more were on poorly thrown balls. They were either behind him on a slant route where he had to reach back across his body and try to snag or over thrown like in the Green Bay game (btw he could have just let the ball go and not made an attempt, but he tried catching it and paid the price of cracked ribs). It seems like you didnt notice the ball that was over thrown in the endzone that Austin got his hand on, but wasnt able to come down with or the pass the Crayton dropped last night (although he got his wig split) and he has had a history of dropped balls in the past as well. Speaking of Crayton all of you guys saying we should start him over Roy, do you not remember that earlier in the year PC was a starter and lost his job to Austin, obviously he wasnt producing enough then to remain a starter, so what on earth makes you think you can do it now?

I'll be honest before this year I thought you was going to a great season. Has he? Most would say no and i partially agree, but you cant say he has had a terrible one either. Like i said before when it comes to tds hes tied for 16, which isnt bad at all. Could be better, but im not complaining bc the team is winning games and has a chance to win the east and the way their playing make a deep run in the playoffs. Something just isnt right with him and Romos timing, although i will say it has gotten better as the season has progressed. With that being said just think about how much more it will improve over the next few games and after another offseason together. It seems like most of the Roy Williams bashers out there that want him released asap are forgetting that him and Romo have only had one offseason together and dont think that they can improve their chemistry with more time together.

Heres an interesting link to an article from the Washington Post when it comes to dropped passes thru Dec. 27. Look and see where the name Roy Williams is. You might be surprised as to see whose above and tied with him.http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&type=Receiving&rank=232

He ranks 16th in the league in TDs? How about recepyions? Yardage? YPC. Now, none of this would matter if he wasn't being PAID AS AS TOP 5 WR! Sorry dude, but you won't win a "I'm in Roy's corner" fight if your life depends on it.

Crayton could have done the same if not more if he was targeted as much as Roy

+1000

Actually he's done better. Williams has been targeted more, yet holds a 3 reception edge over Crayton for the season.

The OP states that Crayton wouldn't do better than Roy because Crayton lost his job to Austin. Well, surprise, surprise! Austin happens to be one of the best in the NFL this season. Looks like the move was justified, doesn't it? I don't know if an official stat is kept on dropped passes,but if there were I would bet if Roy's drops stat was averaged over the length of Crayton's career, Crayton would have him by a landslide! As a matter of fact, I seem to remember another WR on this team with a 7 TD season a couple of years ago as a #2 that was being paid as a #3. His name? Patrick Crayton. In fact in order for Williams to even MATCH our 3RD WRs PRODUCTION FROM TWO YEARS AGO Roy Williams needs to catch 12 more balls and rack up 103 more receiving yards in the final game against Philly. And to think we gave up a 1st, a 3rd and an astronomical contract for a clown that can't match the production of a 7th round draft pick that we already had on our roster. Williams is a joke. There are no two ways about it.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

he still sucks.

 

[skinsscalper]

he still sucks.

This is something we actually agree on.

 

[TNCowboy]

ha far from the truth. i dont have a college football team, im more of an NFL person myself. I just know what ive seen as far as drops and thats been a lot of poorly thrown balls

:laugh2:

~blows nose with thread~

 

[aikemirv]

Roy Williams doesn't suck.

He is still a quality player.

He is just not worth $9 Million a year and the draft picks we gave to get him.

Yep, a quality player who is in a funk IMO.

Both mentally and in catching the ball.

He needs to get his act straight for the playoffs!!!

I never liked the "trade" part of it because I thought Detroit was going to let him go at the end of the season but I was for having him on the team. I understand why Jerry tarded for him but that did not work out at all for the 2008 season.

We all know he has the "ability" to catch everything his hands touch, but he is just not doing it right now. I hope he gets it turned around. I don't know how anyone can come to this board and defend him though

 

[Rampage]

I was at the game. Roy Williams is lazy and runs routes as good as a kid in junior high school. yes he does have 7 tds but he has atleast 1 big drop every game. I just think he's not that good and I thought he was better coming out of Detroit.

 

[EPL0c0]

it is what it is... he's the starting WR. He still has the potential to make big plays for the offense.

At least for the rest of this year, he is *THE* option. Dallas has never been keen on starting rookies; look how long it took Austin to become a starter...and at that it took an injury to a starter first. So don't expect Ogletree to get a shot this year or maybe even next season.

Crayton is a reliable #3/slot WR (and PR).

That leaves Hurd...Hurd has all but disappeared. Good guy but he's never really done anything to establish himself as legitimate starting WR material; he's a good special teams guy though.

Roy is the best option at WR right now, like it or not. It's week 17, that will not change until after the season is completely over. Don't expect anything but Roy for now.

 

[STSINAZ]

roy stinks...bottom line

 

[Doomsay]

it is what it is... he's the starting WR. He still has the potential to make big plays for the offense.

At least for the rest of this year, he is *THE* option. Dallas has never been keen on starting rookies; look how long it took Austin to become a starter...and at that it took an injury to a starter first. So don't expect Ogletree to get a shot this year or maybe even next season.

Crayton is a reliable #3/slot WR (and PR).

That leaves Hurd...Hurd has all but disappeared. Good guy but he's never really done anything to establish himself as legitimate starting WR material; he's a good special teams guy though.

Roy is the best option at WR right now, like it or not. It's week 17, that will not change until after the season is completely over. Don't expect anything but Roy for now.

Roy is not the best option at #2, Crayton is superior (as much as I dislike him personally). Start Roy (for Skull Face's sake) then bring him in only during red zone plays or during garbage time.

 

[jazzcat22]

Roy sucks, and I would venture to bet if the majority of you weren't UT homers you would see that by now.

I'm not an UT homer. But I don't think RW has had a horrible season. Hasn't been a good one either. The other WR's had drops also, some at key times just like Roy's. But his stand out more than the others. And rightfully so, he should be held accountable. But some are on Romo also. But if RW lived up to the hype, he should have adjusted and caught some of those.

He isn't going anywhere, is will not be benched. So just hope for the best and see if he lights it up in the playoffs.

 

[Tehboogieman]

Roy just seems a little scared to take the big hit, if u ask me. I remember most of his drops being over the middle. Regardless, he is quality player. Just needs to realize, as we move forward, the drops have gotta stop.

 

[Wood]

Roy Williams just appears lazy. He gives up too soon on plays. The romo int was perfect example. He makes too many half hearted attempts at the ball to ever become a fan favorite. He is what he is....a second receiver who will cost u few int during year and make occassional good grab and drop some really easy throws....and I mean really easy throws

 

[Sarge]

Thank ***. It was almost 10 minutes since the last RW thread.

 

[mmillman]

drops kill drives that is why they are huge