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dadymat;2538375 said:so 9 years of sideline antics, calling out coaches and teammates, fighting players, saying things to media then denying he said it, dressing down coaches on TV during and after games, spitting in opponents faces, constant complaining of not getting enough plays, dropping balls and giving up on routes is all perception huh....?
This is the tactic the T.O. Police use called "piling." Basically, since you know you have absolutely nothing, you take every media account of "antics," some that didn't even happen, some that didn't happen anything like what they said they did, and some that were taken completely out of context, and list them, hoping that people will either be too overwhelmed to call you on your idiocy or that they'll look like a fool for "having an explanation for everything," even though the "everything" in this case is a load of BS.
Sorry, but I'm going to call you on it.
"calling out coaches and teammates,"
The vast majority of these "calling outs" are fabrication and contextual manipulation. Owens could say "we had too many penalties" and people will say, "He was throwing those who committed the penalties under the bus!!!111"
The rest either involved his public feud with Donovan McNabb, or his short feud with Steve Mariucci which stemmed from the latter not having his back after he celebrated on the star.
"fighting players,"
When was this? The only fight that was ever confirmed that Owens was involved in was a brief skirmish with a FORMER player and "team ambassador" (Hugh Douglas). And get this: DOUGLAS STARTED THE FIGHT. Douglas himself admits this. It was Douglas's fault. Owens was just defending himself.
And, newsflash, genius: Players get in fights ALL THE TIME. It's a locker room with 53 men. Does that ring any sort of bell for you?
"saying things to media then denying he said it"
Are you just trying to get a rise out of people, or are you trying to fill up space?
Are you referring to the Ed Werder report, where Owens NEVER SAID ANY OF THOSE THINGS TO THE MEDIA? Are you? Please tell me you are.
He's denying ever having said things that Ed Werder claims he THINKS, according to "an anonymous source who speaks regularly with players of the team" (i.e., Werder cited himself for that particular part).
That's probably because they're BS. The article never said Owens said them to the MEDIA (just shows how much you're paying attention...gee, what a qualified Owens expert you are), it claims he says/thinks these things behind closed doors. We have no way of knowing whether he thinks or says these things behind closed doors or not. He says he didn't. I'll take him at his word.
"dressing down coaches on TV during and after games"
There is absolutely no evidence of that ever having happened. Just because he's shouting on the sidelines at a coach does NOT mean he's being disrespectful. Hell, he was shouting at his RECEIVERS COACH after the Steelers game, venting frustration. Do you honestly believe he's trying to disrespect SHERMAN...after Tony Romo throws the ball at Jason Witten and Witten never turns around?
Sherman is like a father figure for Owens and the rest of the receivers. Owens even made a point of talking about how strong their relationship is after the game.
Maybe if you actually knew what Owens was saying on the sidelines, you could be informed on the subject...only you haven't the faintest idea. You're just imaging things in your head because you're brainwashed.
"spitting in opponents faces"
-Ah, the alleged DeAngelo Hall incident. The incident where Owens accidentally spat in his face while they were jawing back and forth. Then DeAngelo Hall, like the idiotic loser he is, took it and ran with it.
I'm surprised you even remembered this. Most people have forgotten it (because it never happened).
You think if Owens had intentionally spat in Hall's face that it wouldn't have been caught on one of the 80 "T.O. cameras?"
"constant complaining of not getting enough plays,"
There is no proof of Owens ever having actually complained of anything pertaining to getting the ball. Those "complaints" in the media are RESPONSES to QUESTIONS as to whether or not he was satisfied with the number of passes thrown his way/his involvement in the offense. He doesn't just storm into the room and offer these things up. In other words, he's not actually complaining. He's just answering a question.
Then sheep like you read/hear these things taken completely out of context (i.e. with the question he was answering being conspicuously absent) and get the exact interpretation the agenda-driven writer wants you to arrive at.
"dropping balls and giving up on routes is all perception huh."
Every receiver drops balls, every receiver gives up on some routes.
Oh goodie, more piling with BS.do you remember him calling Garcia gay?
do you remember him saying Philly would be better with Favre?
do you remember screaming at the WR coach on the sideline (here and in SF)?
do you remember him taking shots at the Philly front office for not stopping the game and honoring his 100th touchdown catch?,
do you remember him being traded to Ravens and refusing to report to the team?
"do you remember him calling Garcia gay?"
No, I remember him answering a question posed by a Playboy interviewer implying that he was.
Yeah, like Owens was the first person to suspect Garcia was gay. The Playboy interviewer just came up with that out of nowhere.
"do you remember him saying Philly would be better with Favre?"
Yes. I also remember the reason he said this was because Michael Irvin (everybody here's hero) said it first. Owens was then ASKED what he thought of it (oh, what do you know, another situation where he was only responding to a QUESTION rather than coming up with this stuff on his own) and he agreed, thanks in part to his soured relationship with McNabb and frustration over the latter's play.
As Matt Hasselbeck pointed out, though, if he'd said "no," they probably would've spun it as a slap in the face to Brett Favre, anyway.
"do you remember screaming at the WR coach on the sideline (here and in SF)?"
Nope. Never saw him screaming at a WR coach on the sideline in SF. I did see him screaming at Greg Knapp on the sidelines once after the latter ran the ball on 4th and 2 with 10 in the box when the team was down 28-0 against the Vikings in 2003.
Of course, being a 49ers fan, I also remember Jerry Rice screaming "Tell him to throw a ***** SPIRAL!!! A ***** SPIRAL!!!" at Steve Mariucci after the 49ers scored a TD to go up 10-3 against the Cowboys in 2000. Check this out:
http://media.putfile.com/Double-Standard-Depicted-Beautifully
I also remember Steve Young screaming at Marc Trestman and George Seifert after he was pulled during the Eagles game in 1994. Young was later quoted as saying that it's a good thing Trestman was there to restrain him, because he was literally trying to get to Seifert to punch him in the face.
"do you remember him taking shots at the Philly front office for not stopping the game and honoring his 100th touchdown catch?"
Yes. Is there a problem with this?
"do you remember him being traded to Ravens and refusing to report to the team?"
I remember him protesting the trade. He was right to. The arbitrator saw it the same way. That's why the Eagles/Ravens/49ers worked out an agreement before they came to a ruling...because they knew the arbitrator was just going to grant T.O. free agency.
You might as well stay asleep because you're nothing more than a zombie who doesn't see anything but what agenda-driven individuals want you to see. You would have been a **** if you lived in Germany during the 1940's.i mean do you remember anything or do you just assume it was all a bad dream and you woke up and we are all still sleeping?
You have no way of knowing the last statement...it's all a guess on your part.before he came here to Dallas EVERY ONE hated the guy and said the same things about him that some are still saying ....now all of a sudden hes been wrongly accused......unbelievable .........the guy is a selfish jerk only concerned with padding his stats and looking good on TV........
The some who are still saying these things are the ones who were brainwashed from what happened before and buy into whatever outrageously sensationalized (or just flat out false) things members of the mass media can conjure.
[/quote]and if you think the routine he does on the sideline is just showing heart and not a selfish me,me,me, tirade you are mistaken........just because the likes of Ed Werder exagerate some of the info they get......dont forget in the words of your beloved T.O. ........"if it looks like a rat, smells like a rat, then it must be a rat"
Ah, I see..."if you think blah blah blah, you are mistaken." Why is this? Why are people mistaken? Because when the hundreds of other players who do the same thing do it, they are leaders, but when Owens does it, it just isn't the same?
Are you reading his lips on the sidelines? Or did Ed Werder and his anonymous sources tell you what he was saying?