Tony (2.8 ypc) Pollard eh?

[aria]

So you're really going to tell me Henry is doing what he's doing completely on his own? If his line is that bad why are they out there? Dallas has the worst ol in the league by a mile

That is incorrect statistically but like most people who support zeke, the O line statistics don’t count, only the ones that favor zeke.

BTW, Barkley managed to set several records and/or join elite company when he statistically had one of the bottom 5, if not lower, run blocking line in the league and zeke fans were still bashing him for not doing as much and they wouldn’t even acknowledge how bad his O line was, most still don’t.

What’s up with that?

 

[Shane612]

I'm just glad he gave up that ridiculously stupid "feed me" crapp-o-la.

 

[Loso86]

You know you can get a FB for pennies on the dollar to get “tough yardage” compared to what zeke makes, right? There’s nothing elite or special about that.

Clearly “grinding them down” has worked wonders, we’ve been dominating with our run game. I’ve lost track of how many wins we have.

I was waiting on your response lol.. but in seriousness yep does wonders especially with our crap lousy DEFENSE

 

[Big_D]

I'm just glad he gave up that ridiculously stupid "feed me" crapp-o-la.

He'll bring that garbage back at some point.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I agree that Pollard is better suited for what we are doing on offense now than Zeke.. Have said so many times, but I don't think it's winning football. He's not reliable enough as a chain mover (yet) and as long as we have the defense we have a chain mover is way more what we need than a 1,2,-1,-1,35,1,2 guy. Until we put together at least an average defense we're going to need to move the chains, control the clock and score. I also don't agree that Zeke needs 20 carries to get his yards.. Very few backs get to the century mark without 20 carries. Unless they're facing our defense of course..

Here are the 4th quarter (and OT) rushing yards for the league leaders

Henry - 65 carries for 438 yards 6.8 ypc
Cook - 64 carries for 378 yards 6.0 ypc
Robinson - 37 carries for 158 yards 4.2 ypc
Jacobs - 56 carries for 191 3.4 ypc
Zeke - 39 carries for 164 yards 3.8 ypc

These are the top five rushers in the league this year. Notice that Robinson and Zeke have far fewer 4th quarter carries than Cook and Henry. Those two are clearly feasting on late game tired defenses. Guess what you don't get to do when you're behind in the 4th quarter.. You guessed it.. feast on late game tired defenses. It has been that way for the last two seasons. Zeke only got 56 carries in the 4th quarter total last year. He probably won't match that number this year. Until we are at least close throughout the game we don't get to run the ball in the 4th and Zeke doesn't get to reap the rewards from all the punishment he dished out earlier in the game. Maybe even a bigger problem though is all the stupid shotgun running we do. 74 of 199 , damn near 40% of Zeke's runs have come out of shotgun this year. That is far and away higher than the other top backs. Henry has had 40 of his 271 carries from shotgun.. Cook is 40 of 251. Robinson is 64 of 212.. Jacobs is 46 of 206. We're basically the only team stupid enough to run our workhorse back like he's some 195 pound scatback. if we want return on our investment.. we might start with using the guy in a way that accentuates his talents.. not somebody else's.

Zeke is a chain mover? Thats news to me.

Pollard would be part of a RB by committee on my team. The days of one back getting 90% of the carries are gone. Maybe 3-5 backs in the league where you can do that and Zeke isnt one of them. And I dont pay any of them 15 million per year. As soon as they want big money, they get traded. 10 million for Henry, I could be talked into that.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Nothing is the same as 2016.

Comparing Pollard and Elliott is just unreasonable.

I was comparing them since they both have been with the Cowboys.
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[Birch_Wood]

I prefer season stats

Zeke 3,9
Pollard 4.7
Not saying Pollard is any better than Hambrick, Just saying Zeke has been a disappointment.

And think about $90 mill Vs whatever pollards contract is ---- $3 mill.?

 

[RonnieT24]

Zeke is a chain mover? Thats news to me.

Pollard would be part of a RB by committee on my team. The days of one back getting 90% of the carries are gone. Maybe 3-5 backs in the league where you can do that and Zeke isnt one of them. And I dont pay any of them 15 million per year. As soon as they want big money, they get traded. 10 million for Henry, I could be talked into that.

If you didn't know then you should get a new news source. Zeke has converted 52 first downs on 199 carries. That's a first down rate of better than 26.1 %. Henry is at 67 of 271. 24.7% .. Cook is 69 on 251 carries or 27.4% ..Robinson is 50 on 212 carries.. or 23.5%. At this point Cook is the only feature back with a better first down percentage than Zeke.. so yeah.. he's a chain mover. Zeke has converted more first downs than every back in the league except for Cook and Henry. Sorry if the numbers don't agree with your perception. But they won't change to make you feel better. Zeke is 4th in carries and 5th in yards.. IN THE WORST YEAR OF HIS CAREER. Let that sink in.. Guys having their wet dream years are barely matching Zeke's worst. That's why you keep this guy around at least one more year to see if he can return to form behind a healthy a line and with a competent passing attack. The cards are heavily stacked against him but there his name sits among the league leaders.. Must drive people who hate him nuts to have to keep reading his name up there. The very thought of it makes me chuckle.

 

[RonnieT24]

If you didn't know then you should get a new news source. Zeke has converted 52 first downs on 199 carries. That's a first down rate of better than 26.1 %. Henry is at 67 of 271. 24.7% .. Cook is 69 on 251 carries or 27.4% ..Robinson is 50 on 212 carries.. or 23.5%. At this point Cook is the only feature back with a better first down percentage than Zeke.. so yeah.. he's a chain mover. Zeke has converted more first downs than every back in the league except for Cook and Henry. Sorry if the numbers don't agree with your perception. But they won't change to make you feel better. Zeke is 4th in carries and 5th in yards.. IN THE WORST YEAR OF HIS CAREER. Let that sink in.. Guys having their wet dream years are barely matching Zeke's worst. That's why you keep this guy around at least one more year to see if he can return to form behind a healthy a line and with a competent passing attack. The cards are heavily stacked against him but there his name sits among the league leaders.. Must drive people who hate him nuts to have to keep reading his name up there. The very thought of it makes me chuckle.

Sorry I just noticed that Zeke is 5th in carries and 4th in yards.. 4th in the league in rushing.. behind this crappy patchwork line with Huey, Dewey and Lewey at QB. Hell if he stays in the top 5 with all this crap going on it will be his most impressive achievement yet..

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Sorry I just noticed that Zeke is 5th in carries and 4th in yards.. 4th in the league in rushing.. behind this crappy patchwork line with Huey, Dewey and Lewey at QB. Hell if he stays in the top 5 with all this crap going on it will be his most impressive achievement yet..

He’s 6th in the league in rushing and nearly 600 yards behind Henry.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Seek had that one pass block on the right side that he lifted and flipped the DE , was awesome..5YPC most of the game..

Who cares about the contract as some keep bringing up,,seeks twice the layer pollard is and that why he was drafted high an paid the way he is,,money needs to stop being the barometer,this year sux we all know out the team is bad therefore most skilled players numbers will go down..NO OL and OC that continues to only have like 6 run plays, no real scheming to help the Ol or the RBs

I like pollard nice compliment back but hes not special...

The hates love these years when layer or coach is down so they can go to their files they saved to past and cut their narratives.

Sad to constant rip their own players and team the place should not be called fan zone and instead haterzone.

Zeke's contract is part of the reason we don't have Byron Jones anymore and our secondary is in shambles. In a hard cap league you have to consider every dollar and see where you can get the most value for your money.

 

[RonnieT24]

He’s 6th in the league in rushing and nearly 600 yards behind Henry.

Ahh I see.. I still had the table sorted on the first down column.. My mistake. So amend my take to top 6 in the league during the worst year of his career. Totally changes the meaning doesn't it.

 

[3rdEyewarrior]

Offense has regularly looked better with Pollard in the backfield this year.

It hasn’t. You’re delusional.

 

[buybuydandavis]

8 carries for 22 yards? Really? This is the guy yall are insisting should replace Zeke? As I predicted the long layoff allowed Zeke to bring a little juice to the stadium tonight. Alas I think he will be hard pressed to be physically ready in 5 days to play on Sunday. F you Goodell. So instead of just one game on short rest we get two this year. F you Goodell. But I digress. Both backs ran hard tonight.. but again we see that Pollard is good for an occasional splash play but there's a lot of bone dry in between them. What we saw from Zeke was consistently grinding out positive yards.. Even a couple of nice cutbacks for over 10.. Except for the idiotic play calling on the first and goal from the 1. Three straight plays into the teeth of a 9 man box with the line getting blown into the backfield. Would it kill you to run wide or off tackle down there Kellen Moore? Good thing Cooper bailed Dalton out on the 4th down throw. Dalton almost airmailed that thing.. McCarthy needs to take film of that sequence into his offseason meeting with Jerry and say " this is why I need to call plays man.. "

Pollard did have the one nice kick return but I repeat for those of you who believe he ran 4.3 at his pro-day.. If he was really that fast that linebacker doesn't track him down once he broke free like that. A true 4.3 burner takes that thing to the house high stepping the last 30 yards.

In each of the last 2 seasons, Pollard's YPC is 0.8yards more than Zeke's.

 

[EST_1986]

It hasn’t. You’re delusional.

You’re right. Offense is so explosive is Zeke busting loose for 6 yards and fumbling

 

[CowboyRoy]

If you didn't know then you should get a new news source. Zeke has converted 52 first downs on 199 carries. That's a first down rate of better than 26.1 %. Henry is at 67 of 271. 24.7% .. Cook is 69 on 251 carries or 27.4% ..Robinson is 50 on 212 carries.. or 23.5%. At this point Cook is the only feature back with a better first down percentage than Zeke.. so yeah.. he's a chain mover. Zeke has converted more first downs than every back in the league except for Cook and Henry. Sorry if the numbers don't agree with your perception. But they won't change to make you feel better. Zeke is 4th in carries and 5th in yards.. IN THE WORST YEAR OF HIS CAREER. Let that sink in.. Guys having their wet dream years are barely matching Zeke's worst. That's why you keep this guy around at least one more year to see if he can return to form behind a healthy a line and with a competent passing attack. The cards are heavily stacked against him but there his name sits among the league leaders.. Must drive people who hate him nuts to have to keep reading his name up there. The very thought of it makes me chuckle.

The clown just got stuffed 3 times from the 1 and went backwards. Lol

happens all the time.

lol.....cook and Henry actually run for first downs. How many runs does zeke have over 9 yards compared to the others. Show me that stat genius. Any fool can put his head down and get a yard or two 20% of the time? Lol

now let’s compare td’s. What real rb’s are paid for . Now let’s look at 4th quarter production.....money time. Show me those stats genius.

Your boy not only isn’t worth the money he’s an average back. Those are the facts you need to come to grips with.

 

[Birch_Wood]

If you didn't know then you should get a new news source. Zeke has converted 52 first downs on 199 carries. That's a first down rate of better than 26.1 %. Henry is at 67 of 271. 24.7% .. Cook is 69 on 251 carries or 27.4% ..Robinson is 50 on 212 carries.. or 23.5%. At this point Cook is the only feature back with a better first down percentage than Zeke.. so yeah.. he's a chain mover. Zeke has converted more first downs than every back in the league except for Cook and Henry. Sorry if the numbers don't agree with your perception. But they won't change to make you feel better. Zeke is 4th in carries and 5th in yards.. IN THE WORST YEAR OF HIS CAREER. Let that sink in.. Guys having their wet dream years are barely matching Zeke's worst. That's why you keep this guy around at least one more year to see if he can return to form behind a healthy a line and with a competent passing attack. The cards are heavily stacked against him but there his name sits among the league leaders.. Must drive people who hate him nuts to have to keep reading his name up there. The very thought of it makes me chuckle.

How can you "hate" someone you don't really know. It's not like anyone on this board is having coffee with Zeke. He is a young kid whom some don't like his performance. Or would rather not have his price tag. I'm pretty sure the label, "hate" is not reality.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Ahh I see.. I still had the table sorted on the first down column.. My mistake. So amend my take to top 6 in the league during the worst year of his career. Totally changes the meaning doesn't it.

No, it’s just another example of you talking out your arse.

 

[Ekspozed]

At least zeke plays unlike mccaffrey

 

[aria]

At least zeke plays unlike mccaffrey

At least McCaffrey isn’t giving the other team free points by sitting on the sidelines. zeke is more of a liability at this point.