Tony Romo v. Drew Henson Revisited

[LittleBoyBlue]

I remember hearing very little about Romo before he was inserted in Giants game. One poster on this board talked him a bit so between him and the little that was reported I thought to myself, "hey, we have nothing anyways and Drew sucks" and never wanted Drew anyways.

So we fast forward to NOW.

Here is what we know:

• He can be a smart QB
• He can be a playmaking QB
• He can evade pass rushers
• He can put up some big numbers with a playmaking WR
• He can use Witten like Aikman did Novacek

and in the same breath here is the same list

• He can be Favre-like in the bad way
• He has pulled back and is not making the plays as often. He holds the ball too long now at times and when he finally throws its a poor decision too often
• He got nailed too many times last year IMO
• He has another playmaking WR that can be comparable to TO in some ways - I am actually not worried about RW like some are on here - lets see. My concern is possible lack of chemistry. We have time. To be determined.
• Witten and Romo combo is a good thing and will always be

 

[TwoDeep3]

You're delusional. I was the first to have a tony romo pic, and i was the first to be on his bandwagon.

Don't deny that you supported Henson and all the while I argued Romo was better.

You're words were you've never been wrong about a 'pedigree' quarterback. Yet, you were dead wrong about Henson. I didn't start this thread to chest thump or throw mud. I was looking for the tangibles people who now believe in romo see in him.

Yet, all you're worried about is saving face because your words were, quote, "he throws lollipops". You were so high on Drew Henson it wasn't even funny. Yet Romo was never a prospect to you--just a lollipop throwing, noodle armed loser.

Funny, how you attack me because you couldn't see his talent.

Ya know, Jerry could always use some intuitive scouting. You might think about it.

But be careful under any structure that doesn't have brick and mortar.

 

[theogt]

I remember hearing very little about Romo before he was inserted in Giants game. One poster on this board talked him a bit so between him and the little that was reported I thought to myself, "hey, we have nothing anyways and Drew sucks" and never wanted Drew anyways.

What? He was the most popular topic during the 2006 pre-season. Some were arguing for him to start in Week 1. After Week 1, the tide turned heavily toward Romo.

 

[ethiostar]

As a proud long time supporter of Tony Romo, as well as an avid supporter of the current quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, I can say that I was one of his first believers. That is, I thought he had the potential to be great as he occupied the 3rd string quarterback position. Then, low and behold, he gets named the 2nd string over Henson and eventually unseats potential Hall of Famer, Drew Bledsoe.

How many posters can honestly say they believed in him from the beginning?

And if you didn't believe in him from the beginning, at what point did you begin to believe in him, if at all? And what reasons, if any, do you believe in Tony Romo right now?

No, he's not perfect. But I think we'd be hard pressed to find many posters who now disapprove of our quarterback situation. I just want to hear some feedback from those who have come around to support TR, and what were the key factors in the change of heart?

The title is a little misleading and loaded, I admit. So the focus isn't really on Drew Henson, rather our current situation.

However, if you feel we'd be better of with Henson as our current quarterback, you can say that too.

Cheers

[/sarcasm off]



For the record, when he came in the second half of Giants game, i thought he had something.

 

[Doomsday101]

What? He was the most popular topic during the 2006 pre-season. Some were arguing for him to start in Week 1. After Week 1, the tide turned heavily toward Romo.

Anyone who was sitting on the bench was the guy many were excited about and why not what was on the field was not very exciting. When things are going bad everyone wants the backup QB to get a shot.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Anyone who was sitting on the bench was the guy many were excited about and why not what was on the field was not very exciting. When things are going bad everyone wants the backup QB to get a shot.

Clint Stoerner.

There were so many people on this guy and the 'what if' scenario.

I think he threw 4 picks in the Giants game and we lost.

That well dried up pretty quickly after, with the occasional guy making the complimentary statement, "if they just give him a chance."

Sort of like chocolates on the pillows at four star hotels.

My fear is Miles Austin is the WR version of Stoerner and we will waste a season finding out with no back-up plan.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Clint Stoerner.

There were so many people on this guy and the 'what if' scenario.

I think he threw 4 picks in the Giants game and we lost.

That well dried up pretty quickly after, with the occasional guy making the complimentary statement, "if they just give him a chance."

Sort of like chocolates on the pillows at four star hotels.

My fear is Miles Austin is the WR version of Stoerner and we will waste a season finding out with no back-up plan.

Now that's not fair. Miles has already showed more in a backup role than Stoerner ever showed, anywhere, on a football field.

I don't think it's really quite right to put those two in the same light, no matter what happens with Miles.

 

[Doomsday101]

Clint Stoerner.

There were so many people on this guy and the 'what if' scenario.

I think he threw 4 picks in the Giants game and we lost.

That well dried up pretty quickly after, with the occasional guy making the complimentary statement, "if they just give him a chance."

Sort of like chocolates on the pillows at four star hotels.

My fear is Miles Austin is the WR version of Stoerner and we will waste a season finding out with no back-up plan.

I even remember when some where excited about Kevin Sweeny. :laugh2:
Backup QB's on bad teams tend to be the favorite for a lot of fans.

As for Austin I do agree he is a question mark for me the question is not his ability to play the position and do so very well but can he stay in the lineup? He has yet to stay healthy for any length of time. Don't get me wrong I'm not predicting Pro Bowl star player but I think Austin has the ability to be an effective WR on this team if and it is a big if he can stay healthy.

 

[theogt]

Anyone who was sitting on the bench was the guy many were excited about and why not what was on the field was not very exciting. When things are going bad everyone wants the backup QB to get a shot.

The significant difference being that Romo was lights out that pre-season, but of course you had all the "realists" who kept saying it was just pre-season and he wouldn't perform as well when thrown to the wolves in a regular season game.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Now that's not fair. Miles has already showed more in a backup role than Stoerner ever showed, anywhere, on a football field.

I don't think it's really quite right to put those two in the same light, no matter what happens with Miles.

Remind me again.

Last December when all the marbles were in play. After he returned from his latest leg injury.

Three games. One catch. Twenty-three yards.

Or is that too harsh?

How about career stats.

Three years. Eighteen catches.

Can he stay out of the tub and on the field?
Can he get separation when they roll a serious corner his way?
Can he get deep before Romo is hammered?

And what do we do if he can't?

I'll be here all day. Please tip your waitresses.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I am still amazed at the existing sentiment some people still have that Drew Henson was "ruined" by Coach Parcells.

I guess his complete washouts in Minnesota and Detroit were also due to this evil influence?

It isn't like he hasn't had chances since being released from Dallas to even be worthy of keeping on a roster somehwhere as a developmental prospect.

That suggests he was overvalued to begin with and that the prospects some projected for him were completely wrong. There is no harm in that, and he wouldn't be the first "can't miss" type to fail to make the cut in this league. Even the "experts" who predicted greatness for him made errors in judgment, let alone the message board neophytes.

The QB position isn't just about mechanical issues and physical tools. There is also a mental part of the game that has to be satisfied and that's where I believe he fell short, despite all of this "he was set up to fail" nonsense. Henson didn't get the job done. End of story. There was no nefarious plot to ruin him, nor was he railroaded towards failure.

As for who was "first" on the Romo bandwagon, I am in agreement with TwoDeep3. I don't believe anyone was. And those who claim it really are in a stage of idiotic self-indulgence.

I wouldn't say he was ruined by Parcells, if that's they way it came across, but changing his delivery didn't do him any favors.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Meh, who cares. A couple of us liked Romo back when we had the Hutch/Carter debates but I didn't think he would ever get a chance especially when they kept bringing in QBs in front of him. Luckily Carter was sent on his way or we might never known what we had in Romo. I don't see a need for this thread in the least.

 

[TwoDeep3]

The significant difference being that Romo was lights out that pre-season, but of course you had all the "realists" who kept saying it was just pre-season and he wouldn't perform as well when thrown to the wolves in a regular season game.

Come on Theo...he was "lights out" against people who are now selling insurance and driving cola trucks.

He also was stellar in his debut against the Giants. I seem to recall three gifts to their side.

Romo plays well early in the season, but needs to show something more this year.

I hope he can do it. I give him the benefit of the doubt.

But at some point he needs to take the next step.

 

[Doomsday101]

The significant difference being that Romo was lights out that pre-season, but of course you had all the "realists" who kept saying it was just pre-season and he wouldn't perform as well when thrown to the wolves in a regular season game.

It was encouraging to see him play well in Pre-season but I'm never sold on pre-season games because what you face in pre-season is not going to be the same. 2nd and 3rd stringer facing off is good work but it still leaves a lot of questions. When Romo was given the opportunity he showed himself to be a quality QB and that is when I really became sold on him. I would be lying if I said I knew it all along.

 

[Doomsday101]

Come on Theo...he was "lights out" against people who are now selling insurance and driving cola trucks.

He also was stellar in his debut against the Giants. I seem to recall three gifts to their side.

Romo plays well early in the season, but needs to show something more this year.

I hope he can do it. I give him the benefit of the doubt.

But at some point he needs to take the next step.

Which is why it is important that many others show something late in the season. When you are giving up 12 sacks in the month of december alone that is more than just the QB. Romo like any QB is going to need decent protection and when that protection starts to fail he is going to have a much harder road. Ask Kurt Warner, people had him washed up leaving the Rams but looking back was it really the fact that Warner was washed up or was it the fact they just could not protect him? Warner clearly has the ability to help take a team to the championship but what is required to get there goes well beyond the QB alone.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I was a T. Romo supporter back in 1999!

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Funny, my avatar is gone, which was a Tony Romo avatar. But my location should tell it all.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30823&highlight=banned_n_austin

 

[theogt]

Come on Theo...he was "lights out" against people who are now selling insurance and driving cola trucks.

He also was stellar in his debut against the Giants. I seem to recall three gifts to their side.

Romo plays well early in the season, but needs to show something more this year.

I hope he can do it. I give him the benefit of the doubt.

But at some point he needs to take the next step.

Yeah, yeah I heard it all before. It was just the pre-season. He'll never have 90+ QB ratings in the regular season.

Oh wait......

 

[theogt]

Funny, my avatar is gone, which was a Tony Romo avatar. But my location should tell it all.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30823&highlight=banned_n_austin

LOL @ Ben_in_Austin being renamed "Banned_in_Austin".

Kudos to the mod that did that.

And McCoy, your avatar changes on your old posts too when you switch.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

LOL @ Ben_in_Austin being renamed "Banned_in_Austin".

Kudos to the mod that did that.

And McCoy, your avatar changes on your old posts too when you switch.

I changed that name as a joke, in fact. Also, my avatar was removed. I never did that.