Too bad about the great Jake Delhomme

[kartr]

LMAO!!!! Against the Pats! You're citing a game in which we got shut out as supporting evidence for your boy! A game in which QC threw three INTs!!!!

Yes, his qb rating was around 100 at the half, with the offensive line committing about 10 penalties in that game and Hambrick running for 20 yards and Galloway out injured. The first pick was Witten's fault cause he had both hands on the ball and the last pick came with 12 seconds left in the game so it didn't matter. If he had had just a little bit help, we wouldn't have been shut out. Also both Witten and Bryant had drops on third and longs in Patriot territory that would have been first downs.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

2003 called. It wants its thread back.

 

[kartr]

Supporting cast or not Carter was a backup at best and once he blew his second chance in NY that pretty much ended any trust people would have in him. So beat that dead high horse all you want but no one is willing to even touch Carter.

That's your biased opinion. Carter has had a better career than David Carr and Joey Harrington who I believe are both starters in the league. He's also better than anything Chicago has. If they had signed him, they might have had a chance with Carolina, you see, Carter is 2-1 against them. In those 3 games he's thrown for 633 yards(ave = 211) and 4td passes against 2 ints. Not too shabby against a top notch defense, and oh, 1 td rushing. Those don't sound like backup numbers to me.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

2003 called. It wants its thread back.

:laugh2:

 

[kartr]

Totally agree with you. This notion that Delhomme is some poor QB because of 1 game is pretty far reach being made my Mr disgrutled "I want my drug store cowboy back" karter

We're 15-17 without him and we were 16-15 with him and he had less experience than Drew and a much lesser supporting cast against tougher competition (the AFC East and NFC South). Coincidence. I don't think so.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

That's your biased opinion. Carter has had a better career than David Carr and Joey Harrington who I believe are both starters in the league. He's also better than anything Chicago has. If they had signed him, they might have had a chance with Carolina, you see, Carter is 2-1 against them. In those 3 games he's thrown for 633 yards(ave = 211) and 4td passes against 2 ints. Not too shabby against a top notch defense, and oh, 1 td rushing. Those don't sound like backup numbers to me.

I know...Carter has been so good that he has sat out of the NFL this whole past season.

 

[Doomsday101]

That's your biased opinion. Carter has had a better career than David Carr and Joey Harrington who I believe are both starters in the league. He's also better than anything Chicago has. If they had signed him, they might have had a chance with Carolina, you see, Carter is 2-1 against them. In those 3 games he's thrown for 633 yards(ave = 211) and 4td passes against 2 ints. Not too shabby against a top notch defense, and oh, 1 td rushing. Those don't sound like backup numbers to me.

If a team can't trust a player they will not stick with him. NFL teams must have something against him as well which is why he is no longer in the league. I don't think they are being biased I think they do not want to put the most important position on offense in the hands of a person they can't trust. Had Chicago or any team signed Carter they would have had to wait 4 weeks while he served his suspension knowing damn well that another failed test would result in a year long suspension and no team is going to waste time and money on a QB like that.

 

[Jarv]

That's your biased opinion. Carter has had a better career than David Carr and Joey Harrington who I believe are both starters in the league. He's also better than anything Chicago has. If they had signed him, they might have had a chance with Carolina, you see, Carter is 2-1 against them. In those 3 games he's thrown for 633 yards(ave = 211) and 4td passes against 2 ints. Not too shabby against a top notch defense, and oh, 1 td rushing. Those don't sound like backup numbers to me.

FYI Kartr,

I was a big QC fan. Liked him over Hutch, wanted him over Vinny in 2004. thought he played well for the Jets too !

Not sure what happened with QC here in the Summer of 2004, thought it was worked out this year, but I did not hear the official results.

I lost respect for QC when he missed the playoffs with the Jets, some said he was in rehab at the time, not sure how accurate those reports were. Then I heard his interview was terrible this year in Dallas and he was some 30 lbs overweight ? I read the transcripts from the interveiw, didn't hear it myself.

What are your thoughts now on him Kartr ? think he has a chance to come back ? Is he training ? Since you are his official cheerleader here thought you might know more about his future.

 

[Doomsday101]

We're 15-17 without him and we were 16-15 with him and he had less experience than Drew and a much lesser supporting cast against tougher competition (the AFC East and NFC South). Coincidence. I don't think so.

Teams win game!!! Carter never went out and single handly won Jack ****. I look at his individual performace and what I saw I did not like at all. I felt he lacked leadership and I felt he was a backup at best that after pulling for him for 3 years I had enough of him and was damn glad when we cut him and moved on. You really have to be the joke of this site with all your Carter non-sense every single time you post here it is the same old BS about Carter.

 

[kartr]

I don't have a problem with McNabb, I think he has great leadership ability and felt he was undermined by TO and I think McNabb enters this next season trying to re-establish his leadership role which is something that he should not have to do but will have to none the less. Seeing how he is the Philly starting QB I doubt you will find many Cowboy fans who have a deep love for him either. You appear more interested in a QB being black than anything else. I could careless the color of the skin of the QB but I do expect a QB what ever race to be able to throw the ball accurately and be able to work from a pocket, if he is mobile great but 1st and foremost I want a guy who can deliver the ball and get all his weapons involved in the game.

My point is that whether the qb is Carter or McNabb or Vick or Brooks or Culpepper, they all get based on this board regularly. Some people go out of their way to bring up these guys names in a negative fashion every chance they get, while praising other qb's who are not on this team. What do those qb's have in common.
Also, as soon as Gibbs drafted Jason Campbell, people started bashing him and as soon as Texas beat USC, people started bashing Vince Young. Again, what do all these players have in common besides being qb's.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

My point is that whether the qb is Carter or McNabb or Vick or Brooks or Culpepper, they all get based on this board regularly. Some people go out of their way to bring up these guys names in a negative fashion every chance they get, while praising other qb's who are not on this team. What do those qb's have in common.
Also, as soon as Gibbs drafted Jason Campbell, people started bashing him and as soon as Texas beat USC, people started bashing Vince Young. Again, what do all these players have in common besides being qb's.

What...No love for Leftwich...which many on the board wanted when we drafted Newman?

 

[Doomsday101]

My point is that whether the qb is Carter or McNabb or Vick or Brooks or Culpepper, they all get based on this board regularly. Some people go out of their way to bring up these guys names in a negative fashion every chance they get, while praising other qb's who are not on this team. What do those qb's have in common.
Also, as soon as Gibbs drafted Jason Campbell, people started bashing him and as soon as Texas beat USC, people started bashing Vince Young. Again, what do all these players have in common besides being qb's.

And you do your share of bashing as well now don't you? It appears your the one trying to turn this into a race issue. I think if you ask many around here about McNair you would see a lot of positive remarks. As for McNabb I think he is one of the top QB's in the league. Other guys like Vick sorry not impressed with his ability at QB but I do think he is the best pure athlete in the NFL but he has not show much as a QB. Lastly Vince Young I have been a big fan of his at UT and I wish he would stay the extra year and would say the same for any young QB.

 

[iceberg]

Exactly, and there's no excuse for a three year starter playing that poorly, but since he's not Carter, they have all the compassion and understanding in the world. They're also mad at Joe Gibbs for drafting Jason Campbell. They thinks he's lousy and that poor Patrick Ramsey is getting a raw deal. They think that Campbell will be no better than Carter, yet Carter's short career has been much better than Ramsey's. In fact, as soon as Gibbs' drafted Campbell, they made cracks such as Campbell = Carter. I wonder what they're basing that on.:wink2:

<singing> someone's bitter </singing>

 

[iceberg]

My point is that whether the qb is Carter or McNabb or Vick or Brooks or Culpepper, they all get based on this board regularly. Some people go out of their way to bring up these guys names in a negative fashion every chance they get, while praising other qb's who are not on this team. What do those qb's have in common.
Also, as soon as Gibbs drafted Jason Campbell, people started bashing him and as soon as Texas beat USC, people started bashing Vince Young. Again, what do all these players have in common besides being qb's.

your "manlove" for them?

you sure you're not really blackstone?

1. you could put mother theresa on the skins and people would bash her. dead and all.
2. gee - someone who won it all on their shoulders should be free of critisizm and animosity? it goes with life dude - FOR US ALL.

i really freaking hate people who think their problems are someone elses fault and not just a fault of life.

stoener got bashed. hutch still gets bashed. hensen get bashed lately? HELL YEA!!! and jake d - isn't this thread bashing the ever loving hell out of him????? how come your analysis only works ONE WAY? oh, cause then you'd have to just get through life w/o excuses like the rest of us, i suppose.

how come your fav qb's issues are race related (or strongly hinted to it) but yet when other qb's are bashed it's part of the game? if all you got here is the race card, i'd fold. takes more than that to win in life.

 

[iceberg]

What...No love for Leftwich...which many on the board wanted when we drafted Newman?

he didn't fit the bashing agenda so therefor he was excused to be hopefully overlooked.

 

[superpunk]

your "manlove" for them?

you sure you're not really blackstone?

1. you could put mother theresa on the skins and people would bash her. dead and all.
2. gee - someone who won it all on their shoulders should be free of critisizm and animosity? it goes with life dude - FOR US ALL.

i really freaking hate people who think their problems are someone elses fault and not just a fault of life.

stoener got bashed. hutch still gets bashed. hensen get bashed lately? HELL YEA!!! and jake d - isn't this thread bashing the ever loving hell out of him????? how come your analysis only works ONE WAY? oh, cause then you'd have to just get through life w/o excuses like the rest of us, i suppose.

how come your fav qb's issues are race related (or strongly hinted to it) but yet when other qb's are bashed it's part of the game? if all you got here is the race card, i'd fold. takes more than that to win in life.

I've got to hand it to you, ice. You knocked that one.........right out of the park!!!!!!

 

[tyke1doe]

Noone had to concern themselves with any of the other RBs, either. That's all I'm saying. Delhomme throwing two quick picks putting his team down early had alot to do with their ineffectiveness, they couldn't run, they were in comeback mode immediately with his mistakes.

Isn't that what Troy Aikman did during the Championship loss against the 49ers?

<ducking for cover>

 

[iceberg]

I've got to hand it to you, ice. You knocked that one.........right out of the park!!!!!!

you know, i think we all realize there are times in life race works against us. you'd be hard pressed to deny the black race has gotten far more than their share. but to invent the reasons and tie it to race simply erodes the valid racial issues to a vast majority of us. it's like the boy who cried wolf.

lose the crutches and walk like the rest of us, kartr.

 

[superpunk]

Isn't that what Troy Aikman did during the Championship loss against the 49ers?

<ducking for cover>

Tough for me to remember that game too well, but yeah, he did. And he almost brought us back, too. Delhomme never looked close.

 

[hmcorp]

jakes getting old. he is done. he had his chance.

he didnt have that great of a season. they won because of a third ranked defense and steve smith destroying other teams. jake is ok. I would put him up there with brad johnson or dante culpepper. throw it up for guys and watch them get the ball.

musin muhammed was so good for him. but that guy has problems. he is smart though. just not any better than bledsoe was this year or eli. he just had a better team on the defensive side than dallas or the giants did.