Too many holes on OL and Defense to pay Dak

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How do you know the Is going down. They didn’t say that. If anything TV revenue will be going up

Revenue will go down this year. OVERTHECAP predicts, Basic Salary Cap:

2021 = $174m .....leaving us with $40m
2022 = $227.5m (assuming a non disrupted season and unsure if MNF deal if factored in ....leaving us with $49m left
2023 = $241...unsure whether the tv deal has been factored in.....leaving us with $70m - last in the NFL

Whatever happens with tv deals the next two years are going to be difficult.
 

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We simply have too many holes to pay Dak 35+ mill a year. We need to rebuild our OL and Defense. We might as well rebuild at the QB position as well.
We need to get a decent young QB on a rookie deal. And then start building. You have some young talent on o line still. A good RB. Good WRs. We need to get value out of either Cooper, Griffin, Jaylon or Lawrence before the trade deadline. We need a 1st and more for any of those guys. If we can get it we should. Woods Worley and Thompson are JAGs and on will be better off cut honestly.
 

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I bet you’d be wrong. I can think of a couple of teams would take him right now

Yep, the Colts are a perfect fit for Dak in 2021. Available CAP space, need for franchise QB, in a position to challenge and possibly being hindered by their present QB (with his poor QBR).
 

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We need to get a decent young QB on a rookie deal. And then start building. You have some young talent on o line still. A good RB. Good WRs. We need to get value out of either Cooper, Griffin, Jaylon or Lawrence before the trade deadline. We need a 1st and more for any of those guys. If we can get it we should. Woods Worley and Thompson are JAGs and on will be better off cut honestly.

THen what do you do if he sucks? Start over again in four years? Lather,rinse, repeat? Until you find one that actually IS good? It only took about 20 QBs between Aikman and Romo to get that taken care of. And if you're spending high draft picks on guys you're not cutting them just because they don't pan out in year one or two. Well unless you're the Cardinals .. The strategy of throwing a Hail Mary at the draft in hopes of finding a QB as good as the one you have is not really a strategy at all. You're not getting a first for any of the guys you listed. Griffen was on the street until August and the rest have untenable contracts. I do wonder how many of the "Jeff Heath sucks" crowd has come forward and apologized so far though.
 

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THen what do you do if he sucks? Start over again in four years? Lather,rinse, repeat? Until you find one that actually IS good? It only took about 20 QBs between Aikman and Romo to get that taken care of. And if you're spending high draft picks on guys you're not cutting them just because they don't pan out in year one or two. Well unless you're the Cardinals .. The strategy of throwing a Hail Mary at the draft in hopes of finding a QB as good as the one you have is not really a strategy at all. You're not getting a first for any of the guys you listed. Griffen was on the street until August and the rest have untenable contracts. I do wonder how many of the "Jeff Heath sucks" crowd has come forward and apologized so far though.

LOL, agree Jeff H. would be a star for the boys this year.
 

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How do you know the Is going down. They didn’t say that. If anything TV revenue will be going up
It’s going down, the nfl is losing a ton of revenue because they can’t have fans in the stadiums. The owners and the players actually made an agreement that it can’t go below $175 million. That is about a $24 million reduction from this year.
 

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But he still doesnt have that winning mentality, that ability to win games with the game ending drive.

I like him but he's not Mahomes and he needs players - remember why we traded for Coops.
and he has the largest comeback wins in the NFL since 2016....or top 5 at least. so your assumption doesn't buy that...

and when you have a defense, that has the opportunity to help the offense close the game and gives up a 50 yard run to a WR.....you have no chance of winning in the end.
 

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We need to get a decent young QB on a rookie deal. And then start building. You have some young talent on o line still. A good RB. Good WRs. We need to get value out of either Cooper, Griffin, Jaylon or Lawrence before the trade deadline. We need a 1st and more for any of those guys. If we can get it we should. Woods Worley and Thompson are JAGs and on will be better off cut honestly.
who is the decent young QB? give me names.....otherwise you have nothing
 

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and he has the largest comeback wins in the NFL since 2016....or top 5 at least. so your assumption doesn't buy that...

and when you have a defense, that has the opportunity to help the offense close the game and gives up a 50 yard run to a WR.....you have no chance of winning in the end.

EXACTLY..... we are not going to win because we have too many holes if we pay Dak close to $40m for 3 years.
 

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EXACTLY..... we are not going to win because we have too many holes if we pay Dak close to $40m for 3 years.
the money is not the issue. this is the biggest misnomer and misinformation people cling to......its signing players that actually play to the level of their contracts or even play at all. we have had enough money to sign some high priced players. we pay $20M/year to Lawrence...we have 2 sacks in 15 games...lets say he actually had 10-12 sacks as a player at that level of pay is expected to have...we paid a $64M contract to Jaylon, to be a top 5 LB in the league...he is ranked in the 50s. always missing tackles, taking wrong angles and missing holes....we paid Smith, but he is always injured...we paid martin. we paid cooper, we paid zeke....we paid collins....are we getting any return worth the money from those 7 players. so its not about paying dak an extra 10 M...... because that 10M would get you a Poe, or a McCoy or crawford. did we and are we getting anything from those players worth the millions they are getting paid?

its not that we haven't been able to sign any high priced FAs...in fact we paid out 7 large contracts and only Martin and Cooper are kind of working out.....but the other 5, supposed to be corner stones of a strong team. they are weaknesses or they are not playing.....we paid mid level contracts to Griffin, Crawford, Mccoy, Poe and we are getting zilch. nada. nothing out of them....can you imagine if they played to the level they are getting paid.....

the problem is not and never been paying Dak....the problem is that we have signed players that we are not getting a return on. and even if we had bargain basement, minimum salary QB...do you think we could sign players that would give us the returns we should expect.....the problem is the GM and all the bad contracts that have been handed out....
 

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You cant cost out your plans for incorporating Dak into the CAP.

Personally I wouldnt rush to find a franchise QB, we are nowhere near competing for rings.
yes we can. that's such a false minomer and misinformation that Dak haters cling to...

we have handed out large contracts to Martin, Zeke, Cooper, Smith, Collins, Lawrence, Jaylon and mid level contracts to Crawford, McCoy, Poe, Griffin.....

are we getting our return on investment from those players? can you imagine if those players played to the level of their contracts. perhaps we can justify martin and cooper.....but the rest. are you getting your money's worth...

the problem is not about Dak's contract. the problem is all the bad contracts that have been handed out. and even if we had extra money, do you have faith the GM would sign the right players? he has missed on almost all of them so far.....what gives you the confidence that he is going to make the right decisions?
 

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so whose going to be your quarterback moving forward? Dalton:laugh:Dak was the only thing we had on this team worth anything minus the receivers. And without Dak they aren't worth a penny either.
 

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yes we can. that's such a false minomer and misinformation that Dak haters cling to...

we have handed out large contracts to Martin, Zeke, Cooper, Smith, Collins, Lawrence, Jaylon and mid level contracts to Crawford, McCoy, Poe, Griffin.....

are we getting our return on investment from those players? can you imagine if those players played to the level of their contracts. perhaps we can justify martin and cooper.....but the rest. are you getting your money's worth...

the problem is not about Dak's contract. the problem is all the bad contracts that have been handed out. and even if we had extra money, do you have faith the GM would sign the right players? he has missed on almost all of them so far.....what gives you the confidence that he is going to make the right decisions?

I am no Dak hater.

The problem with the other bad contracts IS IN THE PAST. S.U.M.O.

No, I dont think the GM would spend money wisely, he'd probably spend it on the Offense or a Defensive player that's all action/movement, but very with very little results.
 

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so whose going to be your quarterback moving forward? Dalton:laugh:Dak was the only thing we had on this team worth anything minus the receivers. And without Dak they aren't worth a penny either.

We arent competing for the next 2 years, minimum. We dont need to rush getting a franchise QB.

We run down the poor contracts, maybe able to get them to a reasonable Dead Cap level and trade, build from the draft.

If we were able to draft Lawrence, Fields, Lance, i'd consider it, failing that i'd be trading our top 5 1st round pick as other than Parsons there's no real consensus top 10 defensive player in the draft.

It's not all about the QB and with our bad contracts it would be prudent to bite the bullet.

Luckily for you Jerry will do as Jerry always does, talks a good talk, but gives in (gives Dak 3 years at $40m per).....unfortunately that doesnt improve the team, nor chances of success.
 

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Ok, which teams?

Bears, Vikings, Jags, Patriots, "The Football Team!", immediately leap to mind.. Any of those teams have QBs playing at significantly below the level Dak was playing at.. Frankly that goes for most teams but a lot of teams have QB contracts they can't move on from yet. I don't know how much the Colts gave Rivers but I guarantee you that if his contract is dumpable they would do it and bring Dak onboard in a heartbeat.
 
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