Top 10 QBs right now

[Phoenix-Talon]

From the Linc, here's how I see it ...

1.) Tom Brady

2.) Ben Rothlisberger

3.) Peyton Manning

4.) Donavan McNabb

5.) Trent Green

6.) Matt Hasslebach

7.) Carlson Palmer

8.) Jake Delhomme

9.) Daunte Culpepper

10.) Drew Brees

 

[Hostile]

The QB position has once again become "watered down." It is a cycle just like everything else.

In the 70's there was a plethora of great QBs like Staubach, Bradshaw, Griese, and Tarkenton. When they started to retire there was a short lull.

Then here came Montana, Elway, Marino, and Kelly. Another lull followed.

Then here came Aikman, Young, and Favre. Now they are fading into the sunset.

As it stands right now, there are really 2 great QBs in the NFL and a lot of kids ready to be the next up cycle.

The 2 great ones are of course Peyton Manning andTom Brady.

Developing the potential to be up there soon are guys like...

Byron Leftwich
Carson Palmer
Eli Manning
Matt Leinart
Vince Young
Jay Cutler
Philip Rivers
Drew Brees

And probably deserving to be there already is Ben Roethlisberger.

These kids need to leapfrog guys like McNabb, Hasselbeck, Brunnell, Bledsoe, Warner, Delhomme, Vick, Plummer, Bulger, and Culpepper.

It's a right of passage in the NFL. There will always be great QBs. Right below them will be guys so close to great that they can see it and taste it.

Right below them are the up and comers. Mixed in are always some flops and misfires.

QB in the NFL is a great fraternity. No 2 opinions on them will ever be exactly alike. I like it that way.

 

[gbrittain]

From the Linc, here's how I see it ...

1.) Tom Brady

2.) Ben Rothlisberger

3.) Peyton Manning

4.) Donavan McNabb

5.) Trent Green

6.) Matt Hasslebach

7.) Carlson Palmer

8.) Jake Delhomme

9.) Daunte Culpepper

10.) Drew Brees

I was going to take your list serious until I saw you did not have Bledsoe #2 overall. You Philly Homer.

Seriously, nice list that is almost exactly the way I see it as well except I had Marc Bulger in there instead of Jake Delhomme. Certainly you could make a better argument for Jake than I could Marc.

 

[Aryma]

Anyone that does not have Bledsoe in the top 10 has a far bigger problem than anyone that has him top 3.

 

[Concord]

Here's Mine.


1.) Drew Henson - Rocket Arm, Excellent Mobility, Accuracy and Touch make up this Marvelous Talent and the Cowboys are Lucky to Have Him.
1A.) Tom Brady - 3 world titles in first 5 seasons speaks for itself, has a great defense and coach but can't argue what he brings to the table.
2.) Drew Bledsoe - 14 year veteran can still sling it with the best of them, puts up great numbers with lesser talent but finally appears to have the missing link: TO
3.) Ben Rothlisberger - 15-1 as a rookie, outstanding performance in 3 straight road playoff games and a world title in his 2nd year.
4.) Jake Delhomme - The cajun sensation seems to be getting better each year, plays great in the big games.
5.) Peyton Manning - Can't ignore the numbers, but despite having phenomenal talent around him he still comes up short when it matters most.
6.) Donavan McNabb - Won a lot of games before TO, with TO and likely will after TO.
7.) Matt Hasslebach - From Brett Favre's understudy to a rock solid all around QB and a superbowl birth, can he do it again?
8.) Carson Palmer - Finally arrived in his 3rd season and has a very bright future if he can fully recover from a devestating injury.
9.) Trent Green - late bloomer has had a great running game to compliment his passing yards.
10.) Drew Brees - Going to make a lot of noise in NO with reggie bush if he is healthy. Chargers made a foolish mistake letting him walk.

Honorable mentions: Dante Culpepper, Brett Favre, Jake Plummer, Mark Bulger and Kurt Warner.

Please provide you top 10 QB rankings and base it on their PRESENT accomplishments, the team/talent around them, and proven ability, not future potential or past successes.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Anyone that does not have Bledsoe in the top 10 has a far bigger problem than anyone that has him top 3.

Why?

Even with an accepted "good" season last year Drew was only the 17th rated starter in the NFL.

At this stage of his career I think he's probably somewhere #11 and #14.

And for every every good thing you can say about him it's very easy to come up with a negative.

He's capable of leading this team to the playoffs but he's no where near the all-round QB the guys that compose the top 5 are.

 

[Cowchips]

I have to disagree strongly with this statement. John Elway would have been a sure fire first ballot HOFer even if he had never won a Super Bowl.

He was already considered great.

Perhaps but I remember him getting knocked around pretty hard by fans because he'd never won the big one. Sound familiar??

BTW, if Bledsoe plays 16 years like Elway did, he will finish with more carreer yards, more career touchdowns and more career completions than Elway had. Not bad when comparing a QB that is "average" with a "superstar"

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Perhaps but I remember him getting knocked around pretty hard by fans because he'd never won the big one. Sound familiar??

BTW, if Bledsoe plays 16 years like Elway did, he will finish with more carreer yards, more career touchdowns and more career completions than Elway had. Not bad when comparing a QB that is "average" with a "superstar"

I never considered Elway a "Great" QB either. Very-good? Yes. But not great.

But Elway still has a better passer rating than Bledsoe 79.9 to 77.3.

Not to mention Elway has a 2,700 more rushing yards and a ton more rushing TD's.

Toss in the huge number of sacks and fumbles Bledsoe suffers annually and it's not even that close of an argument.

 

[demdcowboys#1]

The Answer's top 10 QB's playing right now:

1.) Tom Brady - 3 world titles in first 5 seasons speaks for itself, has a great defense and coach but can't argue what he brings to the table.
2.) Drew Bledsoe - 14 year veteran can still sling it with the best of them, puts up great numbers with lesser talent but finally appears to have the missing link: TO
3.) Ben Rothlisberger - 15-1 as a rookie, outstanding performance in 3 straight road playoff games and a world title in his 2nd year.
4.) Jake Delhomme - The cajun sensation seems to be getting better each year, plays great in the big games.
5.) Peyton Manning - Can't ignore the numbers, but despite having phenomenal talent around him he still comes up short when it matters most.
6.) Donavan McNabb - Won a lot of games before TO, with TO and likely will after TO.
7.) Matt Hasslebach - From Brett Favre's understudy to a rock solid all around QB and a superbowl birth, can he do it again?
8.) Carson Palmer - Finally arrived in his 3rd season and has a very bright future if he can fully recover from a devestating injury.
9.) Trent Green - late bloomer has had a great running game to compliment his passing yards.
10.) Drew Brees - Going to make a lot of noise in NO with reggie bush if he is healthy. Chargers made a foolish mistake letting him walk.

Honorable mentions: Dante Culpepper, Brett Favre, Jake Plummer, Mark Bulger and Kurt Warner.

Please provide you top 10 QB rankings and base it on their PRESENT accomplishments, the team/talent around them, and proven ability, not future potential or past successes.

Thanks

~The Answer

As a cowboys fan, i have to say that you are absolutely out of your mind, to have Bledsoe at #2, even i know that is absurd, i mean come on
that is toooooooooooooooo homer!!!!!!!!!

hahahahahahahahahahahah
hilarious
fix it!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ghst187]

From the Linc, here's how I see it ...

1.) Tom Brady
2.) Ben Rothlisberger
3.) Peyton Manning
4.) Donavan McNabb
5.) Trent Green
6.) Matt Hasslebach
7.) Carlson Palmer
8.) Jake Delhomme
9.) Daunte Culpepper
10.) Drew Brees

you see the world from an alternate universe my friend...

Put Roth on NE's team and they would struggle. He succeeds because of the system and surrounding cast. He's good, but #2...pulease. He doesn't singlehandedly elevate his team, he's a busdriver, no pun.

McNabb could be #4 about 2-3 years ago but he's going to have to bring it this year. If the Eagles finish better than last in the division then I may give you McNabb as a top 5 QB...but not until then. Top 10 absolutely, probably top in division even, but not top 5 NFL at this point. Hard to forget him O'for in the big games, unable to finish the biggest game of his life, the Roy Williams INT, the tons of throws in the dirt this past season, his weight starting to limit his scrambling threat, half of the team siding with TO, or the several stretches where fans and philthy media wanted to bench him.

Carson Palmer #7??!? If Palmer would have won this past year's SB ring we'd all be sitting here ranking him #1 because I will tell you that he is more talented than anyone on this list, he may not have the skins on the wall or the savy and experience of Brady or Manning yet, but he was singlehandedly making the stinky Bengals darn near unstoppable last year and Pitt probably doesn't beat them in the playoffs without the injury. I think Palmer is already top 3 and if comes back strong from the injury...could top this list this time next year.

Daunte?!? maybe 2-3 years ago....I lost all respect for his abilities when he threw a season's worth of INTs in 5 games and they were headed for a 2 win season before his injury then Brad Johnson (the ancient one) comes in and almost takes them to the playoffs with the exact same team. I first became suspicious when Jeff George and Randall Cunningham replaced him and put up the same numbers several years back throwing to Moss. I'd put McNair over Culpepper at this point, maybe even Vick and Brunell over Daunte also, but definitely Bledsoe is better at this point than all 4, homerism or not. I think that after watching Bledsoe (behind a garbage OL) last year and not ranking him even in the top 10 is silly and biased. He had some big-time 4th quarter comebacks last year and was pivotal and clutch when it counted...not to mention carving up philthy the way he did in their first game.

If there's 2 minutes left and we're down by 4 with the ball, Bledsoe is definitely one of the top 10 current guys I'd want back there at QB and I'd say that regardless of whether he was wearing the Star or not. Remember that once he got a running game in Buffalo they were one of the hottest teams in the league. Also, he was a guy that came in and won a tough playoff game as Brady's backup while in NE. NE doesn't win that game without him and their ring count is one less.

 

[Crown Royal]

Why?

Even with an accepted "good" season last year Drew was only the 17th rated starter in the NFL.

At this stage of his career I think he's probably somewhere #11 and #14.

And for every every good thing you can say about him it's very easy to come up with a negative.

He's capable of leading this team to the playoffs but he's no where near the all-round QB the guys that compose the top 5 are.

I stand by my #7 ranking at the moment, though I might take the case that Green should be flip flopped.

That being said, I included their careers till now in the ranking, to a degree. I would rather have guys like Leftwich, but as of right now, I couldn't think of anyone else to put ahead of him.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think most can agree that either Bledsoe is a top 10 QB, or right below it

 

[jterrell]

There are lots of ways to judge QBs and no 2 lists are likely to be the same. I'd argue vehemently against some of the lists if it really mattered but it doesn't.

Last season 1 QB was special: Tom Brady. He's the only guy I'd label a franchise performer at the position based on last season.

If I am trying to guage the top 10 I'd like for this season here they go.

1. Brady. He carried an otherwise average team quite far. Lead the league in passing yardage and had a 92 QB rating. WR corps and RB group are just average.

2. Matt Hasselbeck. He is not an extraordinary talent but he has learned the scheme and throws accurate passes. Only tossed 9 picks and had a QB rating of 98. Another guy with an average WR corps though he had an awesome OL and RB group.

3. Ben R. Mr. Unconventional makes alot of plays out of nothing. Displays only average arm strength and accuracy but breaks away from sacks and shows good mobility. Accuracy is as good on the run as it is in the pocket. Allows alot of flexibility in the passing game. As with Hasselbeck I am rewarding his winning ways. No position is more tied to winning than QB.

4. Trent Green. I consider him almost lock step with Bledsoe. A slightly better decison maker thus the 1 slot higher ranking. Passed for over 4000 yards with very suspect WR corps but Gonzales is a beast and the OL/RB groups is simple awesome so he has weapons galore.

5. Drew Bledsoe. Lacks mobility and can be robotic but puts up numbers consistently and has been farther in the playoffs than Manning. Has one of the games better arms and great mechanics but he does not make plays out of nothing.

6. Peyton Manning. Really sharp guy who is deadly accurate but relies on his OL as much as Bledsoe and has some playoff meltdowns that are unrivaled.

7. Byron Leftwich. Smart, strong-armed kid who could use better WRs and a more consistent running game. He rates higher than some other kids because he's healthier.

8. Carson Palmer. He's a top 3 guy is not for that injury. He's the prototype. He is the one guy I think joins Brady if healthy. He has a cannon, athleticism and a WR corps and OL to do major damage.

9. Donovan McNabb. He is a great player at times but is battling his own health demons and can be streaky. Normally higher on list but last year is the largest factor in this rankings.

10. Jake Delhomme. A basic journeyman type who has some heart and the game's best WR under 6 foot tall. Can not ignore his winning but watching him is not pretty at all. Might really shine with Keyshawn as his 2nd WR.

Mentions:
Drew Brees. He is limited in arm strength but can read defenses and throws accurately. Delivers some plays out of no where and can move. Issue with him of course is health.

Daunte Culpepper. Another guy who could be top 5 easily if fully healthy and surrounded by a good OL And decent WR corps. He can be somewhat robotic in his throwing but is very strong and hard to sack.

 

[jterrell]

And he's still a better QB than Bledsoe... Anyone that thinks otherwise is a "homer". No more, no less.

Except he wasn't last year and this is a what have you done for me lately league. McNabb tossed a pick right to Roy that won Dallas a game so Dallas fans are highly unlikely to rate him highly.

You've never liked Bledsoe and that's ok but you should certainly not be suprised that almost everyone else breathing likes him more than you because thats been consistently the case.

Bledsoe will never be as good as some think or as bad as some think.

He's a solid guy who has been healthy now for 4 years in a row and is coming off of a top 10 year even though he had the worst OL of any QB not named Carr.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think Winicki, in this situation only, has Nors-itis, he's been constantly harassing Bledsoe that it's become 2nd nature to him

 

[superpunk]

The definitive list.

1. Tom Brady - clutch, accurate, smart - everything you want, and nothing you don't.

2. Peyton Manning - Best regular season QB, hands down. Craps the bed when the playoffs roll around.

3. Trent Green - Check out this guys stat line from the alst 5 years. Then check his WRs.

4. Matt Hasselbeck - Finally fully comfortable with the WCO. I like it.

5. Carson Palmer - Aikman 2.0. Hands down my favorite QB in the league right now.

6. Ben R. - He's shown he can throw more than 20 times a game, if need be. But he has probably the "cushiest" job of any QB in the league.

7. Marc Bulger - flat ot gets it done.

8. Brett Favre - 1 year ago he led the #1 offense in football. Last year was an anomaly - not a trend.

9. Donovan McNabb - If not for those inaccurate ducks..he'd be higher

10. Byron Leftwich - Good pocket passer, not flashy, solid.

 

[jackrussell]

He's a solid guy who has been healthy now for 4 years in a row and is coming off of a top 10 year even though he had the worst OL of any QB not named Carr.

Bbbut bbbbutt that's just it. He didn't have a 'top 10' year, he was 17th. How in the world can a guy that finished 17th merit rankings as high as 2nd best QB in the NFL? Good grief that's just ridiculous.

And I'm a Bledsoe fan.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I think Winicki, in this situation only, has Nors-itis, he's been constantly harassing Bledsoe that it's become 2nd nature to him

Only when someone posts something ridiculous. Like making Bledsoe the #2 QB in the NFL right now.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Except he wasn't last year and this is a what have you done for me lately league. McNabb tossed a pick right to Roy that won Dallas a game so Dallas fans are highly unlikely to rate him highly.

And McNabb still had a higher passer rating than Bledsoe...

Yeah, I know, "Bledsoe had the worst line in the NFL... blah, blah, blah."

Where's the argument that McNabb's wide receivers sucked? Or his running backs were hurt? And who had the better tightends? McNabb or Bledsoe?

Drewpies lament, "But Drew would have been all-world with a better offensive line (sniffle, sniffle)."

But mention McNabb and you get the standard, "He sucked last year."

You've never liked Bledsoe and that's ok but you should certainly not be suprised that almost everyone else breathing likes him more than you because thats been consistently the case.

From this thread it appears that not everyone thinks he's better than I do JT. I said Bledsoe would be somewhere from #11 to #14. I don't think I'm trashing a guy that ranked #17 in the NFL last year.

Bledsoe will never be as good as some think or as bad as some think.

Finally a statement with some validity.

He's a solid guy who has been healthy now for 4 years in a row and is coming off of a top 10 year even though he had the worst OL of any QB not named Carr.

Healty doesn't make anyone a top-10 QB on it's own. As a matter of fact I think that's a relatively weak argument actually.

Yes, the "worst" offensive line in the NFL. Not that he didn't have a hand in that by doing his best Pee-Wee Herman imitation to the ball every time he went back to pass.

I also don't give a guy props for not getting a team into the playoffs for 4-straight years.

Quite frankly to put Bledsoe above Peyton Manning scares me JT... I thought you had better judgement than that, but I guess the need to "homer-out" erases good judgement at times.

 

[MossBurner]

The definitive list.

3. Trent Green - Check out this guys stat line from the alst 5 years. Then check his WRs.

Then check is offensive coordinator...does this situation (old, talented, semi-mobile QB) remind you of Mark Brunell in 2006?

There is no way that Trent Green is the 3rd best QB in the league based on talent, but the production sure is there. I think Mark will greatly benefit Al Saunders this season (no reason to think that Saunders can't recreate KC's offense with more weapons), and then hopefully Jason will be able to take over.