Trade Deadline - RB? Ingram?

[ConstantReboot]

Can someone educate me as to why Ryan Williams is treated like a god on this forum?

They treat Ryan Williams as a God and they want to run Murray out of town.

Seriously.........

 

[ConstantReboot]

NO wants a sproles/dunbar type. Catch passes out of the backfield. They dont roll with the bruiser back type.

NO had a Sproles type of player. He's name was Darren Sproles.

 

[joseephuss]

NO had a Sproles type of player. He's name was Darren Sproles.

Exactly and they traded him away and kept two big, bruiser type backs.

 

[davey999]

I actually think we could uses backup CB or LB.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't follow college football at all due to the NCAA but I do trust nfldraftscout and they have 10 RBs with at least third round grades including 2 with grades of 1. They are not ignorant of the current RB climate in the draft.

In short the draft is deep in RB.

 

[CowboyChris]

I think we're fine at RB, but I wouldn't mind get a slot wr somewhere, and get rid of Beasley.

 

[Leadbelly]

Dunbar is meh to me but meundies has looked good when given a chance. If we were to trade for a RB though, I'd look for someone in the James Starks/Antone Smith mold. Someone who could take Dunbar's role but isn't a liability in pass protection and can take some lead rb snaps.

Washington's Roy Helu or the Jets' Chris Ivory come to mind. Maybe Darren McFadden?

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I think we're fine at RB, but I wouldn't mind get a slot wr somewhere, and get rid of Beasley.

Like the coaches are doing that. lol.

 

[MRV52]

The best kept secret is sitting on our practice roster his name is Ryan Williams. Hopefully he is not snagged from us.

 

[AbeBeta]

well, if murray got hurt, for whatever reason, you cant acquire a decent one through trade after the deadline. might be something to consider doing now.

So we should also cover every other position then?,

 

[jrumann59]

That article says Ingram is ready to break out. Well he won't be breaking out backing up Murray. Even if they lighten Murray's work load a little they won't give Ingram enough carries to break out. Dallas would still be using Dunbar and Randle as well.

Rumor has it he has been ready to break out this season and last season.

 

[AKATheRake]

As the old saying goes, never trust a Klepto . But I think I could trust Randle to tote the rock for this team before Weeden to pass for it. So why trade for a RB?

At this point there are 2 injuries that could derail our season if they are season ending injuries.

1. Tony Romo (No brainer)

2. Tyron Smith (Especially with Free injured right now, moving Parnell to LT and then Martin to RT would just change this o-lines dynamic and therefore this teams overall dynamic)

In saying all of this, unless we get a sweetheart of a deal on a DE that:

1. Is a consummate team player to fit within this "team" culture.
2. Is an established dominant player at his position.
3. Is durable.
4. Is under the age of 28.
5. Is worth their cap charge.
6. Is able to hit the ground running, fitting this scheme.

Etc, etc.

When does that player become available on a deal?

This sin't the 90's and we don't have Jimmy to keep Charles Haley in check and there's a cap so we can't afford to let that player go when it's impossible to keep them in check.

In all due respect, I think we get the point, hopefully.........

 

[joseephuss]

Dunbar is meh to me but meundies has looked good when given a chance. If we were to trade for a RB though, I'd look for someone in the James Starks/Antone Smith mold. Someone who could take Dunbar's role but isn't a liability in pass protection and can take some lead rb snaps.

Washington's Roy Helu or the Jets' Chris Ivory come to mind. Maybe Darren McFadden?

The Jets aren't parting ways with Ivory. There is a rumor they are willing to trade Chris Johnson, but they expect a decent pick in return. Helu and McFadden will both be free agents at the end of the season.

 

[BAZ]

Ingrams a free agent next year, why rent for half a season?

 

[BAZ]

If they really wanted to take a flier on a RB, I think they could get MJD for next to nothing, he looks washed up in Oakland, but behind the Cowboys line he might show something. Not the worst insurance policy for a Murry late season ding, and you know he can pick up the blitz.

 

[Vinnie2u]

I rather wait on Gurley, Gordon, Abdullah or Yelden... But that's just me...

 

[JohnsKey19]

Ingram would actually be an excellent backup to Murray and fit for this running game. But I don't see any way this trade happens. Maybe he's someone they look at as a FA in the offseason.

Nothing against Randle, he's a nice backup and STs player.

 

[kramskoi]

4.2 ypc when running you is a surprise? What that tells me is he is not that explosive.

The thing about that average is that the Saints don't usually run until late (after they have a lead)...more times than not, they will ride the arm of Brees until its over, especially if they fall behind like they did against Dallas. Last Sunday they had ~20 yards rushing with 8 minutes left against Detroit...granted the Lions defense is lauded as stout against the run, they were picking up some big gains late in the fourth. Ingram has been sort of an enigma in New Orleans, and it has had a lot to do with Sproles, who's loss has been keenly felt the by Brees. Sproles was always ready on the check-down from Brees, with good YAC. I knew when they let him go that it would be a huge loss for that offense.

 

[Doc50]

As the old saying goes, never trust a Klepto . But I think I could trust Randle to tote the rock for this team before Weeden to pass for it. So why trade for a RB?

At this point there are 2 injuries that could derail our season if they are season ending injuries.

1. Tony Romo (No brainer)

2. Tyron Smith (Especially with Free injured right now, moving Parnell to LT and then Martin to RT would just change this o-lines dynamic and therefore this teams overall dynamic)

In saying all of this, unless we get a sweetheart of a deal on a DE that:

1. Is a consummate team player to fit within this "team" culture.
2. Is an established dominant player at his position.
3. Is durable.
4. Is under the age of 28.
5. Is worth their cap charge.
6. Is able to hit the ground running, fitting this scheme.

Etc, etc.

When does that player become available on a deal?

This sin't the 90's and we don't have Jimmy to keep Charles Haley in check and there's a cap so we can't afford to let that player go when it's impossible to keep them in check.

In all due respect, I think we get the point, hopefully.........

Good post.

We can neither have all-pro caliber players at every starting position, nor can we have starting caliber players at every back-up position.

Roster construction in the NFL is all about asset management, including risk management, under a limited budget.

The risks you point out are greater than the RB risk.

Considering that, you can bet that we have some kickers, punters, and deep snappers on speed-dial.

 

[Future]

I actually like Ingram, but define mid-round pick?

He's a focal point in the Saints offense right now...I don't think you're going to pry him away for much less than a 2nd.