Trading Parsons or Resigning Parsons

Trade or resign Micah Parsons


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I believe the Cowboys have gotten the best out of Parsons, now that the league knows about him, they're chipping, double teaming, you name it and other teams are throwing everything but the kitchen sink at him..........and it's working! Parsons get's tired easily anymore, that's why he looks like he's gassed in the in the 1st qter. I say trade the young man and get some desperately needed draft picks that could land another stud on a ROOKIE contract because as the Cowboys sit now too much CAP money is going out on TWO players.
and STILL as effective as nearly anyone. but also, that's why it's important to add defensive talent around him on the line. even if he's figured out, the attention will still allow for others to get through.
 

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Highly Prefer: Trade him and start the rebuild.

Wouldn't hate it: Backload his contract and truly go all in with other FA signings to support him.

Please for the love of god don't: Handle it like they've handled all other 2nd contracts.
 

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The thought of re-signing him has become more favorable because of the emergence of Overshown and what the two can do together. Having two dynamic players on your defense can help turn a unit into a great unit. They provide a great one-two punch.
 

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Trade if you can get something crazy (more than two 1sts from a mediocre team), sign if you can’t
That's probably a little high on the trade value at this point.

Probably more like a mid 1st and mid 2nd, or 2 late 1st's (projected).

I would take those, but I also think he's got maybe 2-3 more years left of being an impact player.
 
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Trade. We need so much help.
I'm 50-50 on this,,, we've dumped so much money into the QB position that we're limited in FA and need as many draft picks as we can gather BUT his presence on the D makes such a huge difference in their success. I voted to keep him and then Jerry has to mortgage the crap out of the future and sign some additional players to make this all worth it.
 

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I know this gets talked about ad nauseum, but I just want to see the what percentage of Cowboys fans actually want to trade him
it's hard to pick one of those and we don't know what options we have how much money is he gonna demand literally if he comes up with this nonsense he deserves to be the second highest paid player in the league that's not a quarterback that's not gonna fly with me again I think lamb did that I mean the year before Martin did it I mean I'm tired of these players holding out or threatening to hold out look make a reasonable offer Trayvon diggs did it got signed without any fanfare there was no drama there was no big stories because he took five money that's usually how this works you offer a guy reasonable money in the top five of his position and then you negotiate within that little area people rolling in and saying I demand $34 million to be a wide receiver that drops 3 passes in one game you start getting on fans nerves...

So this to me is about what is Parsons going to demand because if he wants outta here he's gonna pull acd lamb and if he does that I'm all for trading the guy it may change the way we draft and maybe we go get a guy like Abdul Carter his clone but I think the Cowboys need to handle this before the draft they need to do this quickly figure this out because if he's gonna put us in a jam again and ask for that kind of money I'm sick of that word all around the NFL I wanna be the highest paid non quarterback no no you're not you're not worth that. not yet.. Right now Parsons hasn't even approached DeMarcus Ware numbers he's not at the TJ Watt and miles Garrett numbers where they were pushing to get 21 sacks trying to get that 23 sack record he hasn't even been close and I know he's not a full time defensive end but him want to be paid like 40 million or something is not gonna fly with me and then in that case I would trade him he is not worth an open check scenario...

So let's see how fair him and his camp are and maybe they're looking to push out and go to Philly and meet his buddy over there in saquon Barkley you know EX Penn State guys what better place to end up on either the Steelers or the eagles you know what maybe that's what he wants but I would for sure do this I franchise tag that dude if that's what his demands are and then i would seek a trade while he's on the tag... See who blinks first I mean I want the guy here so my vote is resign him but there's got to be 1/3 option what does he want because he wants the world I'm saying no we already made that mistake with lamb in my opinion which then made the domino into we had to sign back and now this guy can't be doing that the Cowboys need to learn a lesson you have to actually have a negotiation you can't have a player set the price and then just eventually cave one of these contracts you just literally should trade them...
 

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Just one question - how does the Iggles front office keep finding ways to remain contenders with the large contracts they have handed out? Is the Dallas FO just making excuses because they don't know what they are doing? (I know, that's 2 questions. Sue me....)
Will the Eagles be paying out around 160 million dollars for their 3 top paid players in 2025?

Dak alone counts as 90 million against the 2025 cap.

Dak has a yearly average 60 mil plus the carryover from the voidable years, CeeDee has 34.5 mill, and Parsons is estimated to earn 35 to 40 million a year on a new contract.

It's not even half of that for the Eagles top 3. The only other team that comes close is Cleveland due to their ruinous contract with Deshawn Watson who is scheduled to count 90 million against their 2025 cap.
 

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That's probably a little high on the trade value at this point.

Probably more like a mid 1st and mid 2nd, or 2 late 1st's (projected).

I would take those, but I also think he's got maybe 2-3 more years left of being an impact player.
You might want to check with Khalil Mack got before people run their mouths on what they think they can get for this guy but it looks like the first trade the raiders got a 1st, 3rd and 6th spread out over 3 drafts.


you put him in a better defense a better scheme and he could be defensive player of the year at least you know he's already a candidate but he could do better but Cleo Mac got the world there's some of these guys got a lot of trade value some more than others it only takes one... Can you imagine him with the Steelers or eagles which I believe he would wanna go there and I believe that type of defense could make this guy into all world..

You only need one team that decides he is worth that to get a whole lot and then in that case sure I probably would trade him if he's demanding 35 to $40 million I'm probably out I want the guy here but if he's pulling acd lamb holding out acting a fool not even showing up to training camp at all not being around his teammates I'm putting the tag on him immediately and then see what they offers are..
 

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You might want to check with Khalil Mack got before people run their mouths on what they think they can get for this guy but it looks like the first trade the raiders got a 1st, 3rd and 6th spread out over 3 drafts.


you put him in a better defense a better scheme and he could be defensive player of the year at least you know he's already a candidate but he could do better but Cleo Mac got the world there's some of these guys got a lot of trade value some more than others it only takes one... Can you imagine him with the Steelers or eagles which I believe he would wanna go there and I believe that type of defense could make this guy into all world..

You only need one team that decides he is worth that to get a whole lot and then in that case sure I probably would trade him if he's demanding 35 to $40 million I'm probably out I want the guy here but if he's pulling acd lamb holding out acting a fool not even showing up to training camp at all not being around his teammates I'm putting the tag on him immediately and then see what they offers are..
I'm referencing the Khalil Mack trade.

The Bears gave up a lot, but don't forget the Raiders also shipped them a 2nd and a 7th.

After considering that, the compensation shakes out to be about what I referenced in the previous post.

But you're right. Some team could get desperate and offer more. It's just unlikely, IMO.
 

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When has jerry and stephen ever spend in FA anyway? they don't. so this depth stuff is meaningless. we had 23M on the cap this year...did they sign henry? or go for cheap zeke to see what he can do.

next year 4, 5 contracts being redone gives us about 70M in cap space. enough to sign anyone, including parsons. but Jerry won't spend it. its all about the show and getting fans to the stadium. he is not fully committed to winning a championship.

and btw, I voted to trade parsons. easiest way to infuse some talent into the team, given we don't spend on FA.
I recall Jerry delving into free agency in the past. It's a little scary. he's had a few successes, but his blunders were memorable.

Contrary to popular belief, Jerry doesn't spend less than other teams when it comes to the salary cap.

Since a team is allowed to rollover unused cap space, Jerry has been trying to stockpile cap space in anticipation of the large contracts he knew he would have to deal with.

The Cowboys have designated more than 22 million dollars as their rollover for 2025. However, they also have to contend with over 9 million dollars in dead money, most of it coming from the Michael Gallup contract.

I think that Jerry will make a few moves in next season's free agency period. There are a few deficiencies that can best be addressed through veteran free agency and he may have no choice.

For example, the RB squad will have to be completely revamped and I don't think this can be resolved by drafting two or three rookies.
 

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Will the Eagles be paying out around 160 million dollars for their 3 top paid players in 2025?

Dak alone counts as 90 million against the 2025 cap.

Dak has a yearly average 60 mil plus the carryover from the voidable years, CeeDee has 34.5 mill, and Parsons is estimated to earn 35 to 40 million a year on a new contract.

It's not even half of that for the Eagles top 3. The only other team that comes close is Cleveland due to their ruinous contract with Deshawn Watson who is scheduled to count 90 million against their 2025 cap.
hurts and aj brown will be making what, 84 mil next year? at some point all the funny money numbers have to be looked at in equivalence.
 

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I recall Jerry delving into free agency in the past. It's a little scary. he's had a few successes, but his blunders were memorable.

Contrary to popular belief, Jerry doesn't spend less than other teams when it comes to the salary cap.

Since a team is allowed to rollover unused cap space, Jerry has been trying to stockpile cap space in anticipation of the large contracts he knew he would have to deal with.

The Cowboys have designated more than 22 million dollars as their rollover for 2025. However, they also have to contend with over 9 million dollars in dead money, most of it coming from the Michael Gallup contract.

I think that Jerry will make a few moves in next season's free agency period. There are a few deficiencies that can best be addressed through veteran free agency and he may have no choice.

For example, the RB squad will have to be completely revamped and I don't think this can be resolved by drafting two or three rookies.
he used to spend on one or two semi big FAs, again, I think to sell tickets.

he has had a team that teeters on the edge of playoffs each year and that's enough for him to sell hope and bring people back.

now, there is a salary cap floor, which every team has to adhere to, but we are one of the lowest in dead cap money, not necessarily because of large contracts, but because he likes to keep players to the end of their contracts since if he lets them go early it means he is paying for the same position twice. he has been doing that for a while now. we are also middle of the pack in cash spending this year, but that's because of CD and Dak contract, else we were 30th in cash spending. he tends to keep draft picks, despite their play until the end of contract as well as again, he doesn't like to pay a player for when he is not here. and it also gives him a lot of lower level picks that he uses to fill the roster.

and the roll over is just his strategy. its money he is not spending. rolling over to next year, just gives him more cap space to account for the large contracts and an easier way to manage the cap than signing FAs.

I have read several articles that with a few contract redo's we can have almost 70M in cap space, that includes the large CD and Dak contracts. that's significant cap space.

he spends enough to have a semi competitive team (ala past three years at 12-5 despite post season failures). that's enough to keep seats filled, jerseys flying off the racks and sell hope. he miscalculated this year because he is not a real GM and didn't see how bad this team would be....

this is the way its going to be unfortunatley....if we end up with a short run against crappy teams, it will be enough for Jerry to claim, we were bad because of injuries and we are close, so thus continue as is. perhaps he will make one mid level FA signing in the second wave of FA.
 

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This poll is irrelevant. All the Cowboys insiders even Belt/Broaddus says the Cowboys will resign Parsons.

Without Parsons our defense becomes as bad as our offense. We would totally be the Raiders. Resigning Dak and CeeDee would have been made no sense. Once you extended Dak you had no choice but to resign Micah.
for any amount??
most think 40 mil a year, but it might be 50 mil a year
 

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How can I answer with an incomplete question?

The price is all that matters.
 

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hurts and aj brown will be making what, 84 mil next year? at some point all the funny money numbers have to be looked at in equivalence.

I can't remember, but I think a lot of their void years (350 million) come up in 2026, or 27. It will have to be accounted for. If teams could push it forward indefinitely it would be a complete circumventing of the cap.
 

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I would trade any player for the right ammount....if he achieved multiple firsts and 2nds, and they were high enough to draft more overall talent than what he brings alone then I'd do it.

Dak plus cedee plus micha is going to mean the Cowboys are so limited on salary cap dollars that they are going to be too top heavy to have enough depth
The only limit on the Cowboys’ salary cap is Jerry Jones’ limited knowledge of how it works.
 

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You might want to check with Khalil Mack got before people run their mouths on what they think they can get for this guy but it looks like the first trade the raiders got a 1st, 3rd and 6th spread out over 3 drafts.


you put him in a better defense a better scheme and he could be defensive player of the year at least you know he's already a candidate but he could do better but Cleo Mac got the world there's some of these guys got a lot of trade value some more than others it only takes one... Can you imagine him with the Steelers or eagles which I believe he would wanna go there and I believe that type of defense could make this guy into all world..

You only need one team that decides he is worth that to get a whole lot and then in that case sure I probably would trade him if he's demanding 35 to $40 million I'm probably out I want the guy here but if he's pulling acd lamb holding out acting a fool not even showing up to training camp at all not being around his teammates I'm putting the tag on him immediately and then see what they offers are..
Stop with the Khalil Mack nonsense. That was five years ago. It does not happen anymore and it’s not going to start now. How many current firsts have been traded? 2025 and 2026? Zero. How many seconds? 4. And 29 of 32 teams have a second pick in 2025. Teams don’t trade valuable draft capital anymore.

Parson is already under contract with the Cowboys for 2025 for over $21 million. That’s just for the 2025 season. He’s already “signed”. He can play for that or hold out and get no pay at all. No team is trading anything for him, particularly well run franchises like Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.
 

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None of this matters anyway. Jerry lays in bed at night pleasuring himself at the thought of making Parsons the highest paid defensive player in history. The only thing we should hope for is he doesn't make him the highest paid NFL player ever. Parsons is about to retire and we need to deal with it.
 

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Parson is already under contract with the Cowboys for 2025 for over $21 million. That’s just for the 2025 season. He’s already “signed”. He can play for that or hold out and get no pay at all.
Bro I used to think and say stuff like this. For this team it is nonsense. Parsons is getting mega paid. Stuff like the franchise tag and 5th year option are for Anthony Spencer. Parsons sells jerseys and is on TV.
 
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