Trey Lance, Jayden Daniels, Michael Penix, Bo Nix

[thunderpimp91]

Well, that's not really fair is it. Rodgers was a late 1st rounder who sat for 3 years and Love was also a late first rounder who was not put on the field for 3 years. He does not really need to earn it more than they do just because he was put on the field too early. SF blew it with this pick trying to put a guy with 15 college starts on the field in his first year and just throwing Grappolo away after a successful season-really dumb move. The idea that he should have been taken with the 3d pick in the draft was just stupidity. He was at best a late first rounder. They just got lucky with Purdy

Whether or not Trey earned his start for the last game or not, he should not be punished for SF blunder.

Just looking around the league right now it really seems like QBs need the opportunity to get consistent reps...Even Jordan Love was shakey to start the season last year when he did get a chance. He had 10 INTs through the first 9 weeks of the year. Bryce Young has just recently started to show some promise after a brutal start to his career. Trey Lance has a 2-3 record and is 81-143 1063 yards 5TD 4INT to go along with 276 yards on the ground. Through 5 games in Chicago Caleb Williams went 107-170 1090 yards 5TD 4INT yet no one is calling on the Bears to move on just yet. Sometimes I think the worst thing for a young QB is to be named a starter for a team with high expectations.

 

[mahoneybill]

I kind of hope he comes back as Dak's backup. He definitely needs work, but looked better last week.

As others have already mentioned, they should have just played him this season. We were never winning anything with Cooper Rush. We already know what Rush is.

He showed the arm strength and ability to throw a ball with zip on it.

Working on shorter touch passes and ball placement on that type of throw looks to be an area for major improvement

I remember an off season contest between David Carr and Dak on accuracy and Carr smoked him and that was after a full season by Dak

 

[conner01]

I just read this tidbit in this article.

“ Lance is only about seven months older than Washington rookie quarterback Jayden Daniels. He's a day younger than Atlanta's Michael Penix and two months or so younger than Bo Nix in Denver.”

I’ve been on the fence about writing him off but this certainly puts things in perspective. Add this to the Darnold resurrection and we sometimes can be too quick to sunset these guys.

He needs a lot of game time experience to really know what he is. I wish there was a G league equivalent for the NFL. Just musing, but I wonder what the precedence is of a team loaning a player to the UFL during the summer.


https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/mailbag-did-cowboys-see-enough-of-lance

Age isn’t important. Experience is the key and all of them have played more football than he has. But they also played more because they earned playing time

 

[conner01]

Just looking around the league right now it really seems like QBs need the opportunity to get consistent reps...Even Jordan Love was shakey to start the season last year when he did get a chance. He had 10 INTs through the first 9 weeks of the year. Bryce Young has just recently started to show some promise after a brutal start to his career. Trey Lance has a 2-3 record and is 81-143 1063 yards 5TD 4INT to go along with 276 yards on the ground. Through 5 games in Chicago Caleb Williams went 107-170 1090 yards 5TD 4INT yet no one is calling on the Bears to move on just yet. Sometimes I think the worst thing for a young QB is to be named a starter for a team with high expectations.

Players get better from playing. The 49ers tried to rush his development and he failed. He’s just never played much football. Either in college or pro. The problem is teams want to win now so they rush guys

 

[Chasing6]

Just spitballing here, but let’s say he has a wink-nod deal with the Cowboys to sign with a UFL each summer for 3 years, and sign back with the Cowboys for the season. With a 10 game UFL season (2 more games for the post season), and a 5 game NFL preseason (Dak barely plays in the preseason), we are talking about 45-51 games of experience over 3 seasons. After that, the kid will be 27 and ready to embark on a 10-12 year starting QB career. Is that enough of a Time Machine for you?

Throw in a QB guru like Doug Pederson who’s super active with him the whole time. You are unlikely to have a top 3 pick in that time period and it doesn’t stop you from drafting a great prospect who falls in your lap.

With the reliance on the league on QBs, some outside the box thinking could be beneficial. Of course humanity is a level 2 chaos system so events along the way, like him having a good showing in either season, would alter the course of things.

What would be the point.

 

[Chasing6]

so? show me one person. a single person from this board this past off season that said we should get Darnlod, because he is about to break out.
not a single person said that. but hey, everyone has a crystal ball after the season.

And how would he have broken our sitting behind Dak?

 

[Chasing6]

Let's see what Purdy can do at 60M and less pieces around him. Maybe the 49ers don't know how to evaluate QB's, Sam Darnold had a great year 4400 yds/32 TD's

Everyone who just watched Trey Lance play can see the talent, unless you're a hater.

Trance is garbage.

 

[gimmesix]

Well, that's not really fair is it. Rodgers was a late 1st rounder who sat for 3 years and Love was also a late first rounder who was not put on the field for 3 years. He does not really need to earn it more than they do just because he was put on the field too early. SF blew it with this pick trying to put a guy with 15 college starts on the field in his first year and just throwing Grappolo away after a successful season-really dumb move. The idea that he should have been taken with the 3d pick in the draft was just stupidity. He was at best a late first rounder. They just got lucky with Purdy

Whether or not Trey earned his start for the last game or not, he should not be punished for SF blunder.

Yes, different circumstances, but he's going to be looked at differently because of them. Rodgers and Love didn't get their shots until they were ready (maybe past ready), but once they got them, they grabbed the reins and there was no looking back. Lance wasn't ready, was forced to play and crapped the bed. Now, he's got to build back NFL trust to get another chance. The only way is for him to play and show what he can do ... or he can get lucky like Darnold did this year and the projected starting QB get hurt while he's in a backup role.

Do you agree that no one is going to sign him to be their starting QB right now? If not, his choice is to take an offer to be a backup somewhere or go show he deserves a shot at starting. He absolutely has to earn that right.

 

[loublue22]

He obviously should have played every down since Dak got hurt. Who trades a valuable asset for a young QB and then doesn't play him when his contract is up at the end of the year?

 

[aikemirv]

Yes, different circumstances, but he's going to be looked at differently because of them. Rodgers and Love didn't get their shots until they were ready (maybe past ready), but once they got them, they grabbed the reins and there was no looking back. Lance wasn't ready, was forced to play and crapped the bed. Now, he's got to build back NFL trust to get another chance. The only way is for him to play and show what he can do ... or he can get lucky like Darnold did this year and the projected starting QB get hurt while he's in a backup role.

Do you agree that no one is going to sign him to be their starting QB right now? If not, his choice is to take an offer to be a backup somewhere or go show he deserves a shot at starting. He absolutely has to earn that right.

Yeah I agree no one is going to sign him to be their starter. His best bet is a team who has a retread starter that a team would like to move on from eventually but does not have the luxury to get a QB with a high pick. That would have been Dallas if we had not invested 250 million in Dak. Seattle would be a great place for him. Miami as well because he would get some time and Tua is not a long term player!

 

[Mr_437]

If he’s under contract to an NFL team he may not play in the UFL.

Right, he'd have to work something out with the organization.

 

[Brooksey]

Trance is garbage.

You really love u some Dak Prescott , change your name bro. He's in year 10, he lacks mobility and brains. He chokes when it counts.

That's trash.

 

[Brooksey]

He obviously should have played every down since Dak got hurt. Who trades a valuable asset for a young QB and then doesn't play him when his contract is up at the end of the year?

You can't do that that when you pay Dak 250M and Lance is not under contract. All you would do is advertise him for someone else to sign. Now we can sign him for team friendly backup deal.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Bo Nix 1936 passing attempts in college - 567 attempts in rookie season

Michael Penix 1685 passing attempts in college - 105 attempts in rookie season

Jayden Daniels 1438 passing attempts in college - 480 attempts in rookie season

Trey Lance 318 passing attempts in college - 143 attempts in 3-year NFL career


Quarterbacks have to throw, a lot. The game and the players move too fast to try to learn basic Quarterback progressions at this level.

 

[21Savage]

When is the last time you seen a franchise QB have this type of career?

Does that mean you don’t try because it’s unprecedented? Have you seen a QB career like Roger Staubach’s (military experience to star) or Kurt Warner’s (grocery to star to dud and back to star)?

This doesn’t stop you from drafting a QB. You might as well chase parallel opportunities.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Right, he'd have to work something out with the organization.

The NFL does not allow it, the UFL does not allow it, the CFL does not allow it, and most importantly, the NFLPA does not allow it.

 

[rambo2]

Trance is garbage.

Lol

 

[DuncanIso]

so what? he has been in the NFL for four years. those other guys are rookies and have done way more than he has done in his 4 years.
tell me would you take lance over any of those guys?
and what's lance's ceiling. people think play him more and more and he is going to turn into his lofty draft status. do you know how many busts there have been in the top 5? just add lance to the list.

people in the know, know what he is. he may run 4.5 (there is 10s of QBs that do that). he may throw hard (there are a 100 QBs in college that can do that).
he has no instincts for the game. that natural instinct that you learn playing a lot in high school and college. and now at this age, regardless of how much older/younger he is, you want him to get A LOT of playing time to develop those instincts...maybe!!! why!?

he needs to go to UFL and just play a lot, against lesser competition, where there is no pressure like NFL and just spend a couple of three years and then come try again perhaps.

He broke his hand and his leg.

Missed two seasons.

 

[DuncanIso]

Interesting idea for Trey to play UFL. I actually support it, especially if he signed with Dallas as QB2 because he's reps would be limited anyway. At least, he will have played live ball before TC.

Not happening.

 

[DuncanIso]

Lance will NEVER be a starting NFL franchise QB.
I don't think he is a qualified backup at this point.
QB either has it (as Bo, Jayden, and Penix are showing) or they don't.
None of our QBs can carry the load of a franchise QB no matter how much talent you surround them with.

He started the last game.