Trey Lance, Jayden Daniels, Michael Penix, Bo Nix

[DuncanIso]

Jay Daniels played 53 games at Cajon and set CIF-SS records with 210 touchdowns and over 17,600 total yards.

Bo Nix career stats in high school were staggering.10,393 passing yards, 127 passing touchdowns, 34 rushing touchdowns.
12,505 total yards of offense.

Penix Jr. finished his career 342-of-576 (59.4 percent) with 29 touchdowns, 15 interceptions, and five 300-yard games. He rushed for 165 yards on 64 attempts with six scores. Penix shares fifth in 300-yard games, and ranks sixth in completion percentage and 10th in passing TDs on Indiana’s career lists.

Trey Lance 893 yards passing, 8 TD passes, 46 completions, 88 attempts.

I have no idea how Trance can catch up in playing experience. He also has significantly less playing experience than all 3 in college. The kid needs a Time Machine.

He’s 24.

Plenty of time.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He didn't play badly against Washington. He played better than Daniels did.

He did but it wasn’t hard to play better then Daniel’s….he had a poor performance.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Gotta disagree with you on this one man....Lance may or may not have the it factor to really play in the NFL but the experience issue is a valid talking point..

Jayden Daniels started 55 games over 5 years in college

Dak Prescott started 49 games over 4 years

Russell Wilson started 50 games over 4 years

All these guys come from major conferences playing future NFL talent regularly as well. Trey Lance barely had 300 passing attempts his college career against a bunch of future accountants.

I hear this talking point but it’s a prime example of why he struggles and always will. I feel how good player is is based on the structure and foundation. It’s like trying to learn calculus before learning Geometry. You can’t skip steps. You can’t run before walking. His lack of experience is why he struggles because he skipped steps in his foundation.

There’s no example of a guy lacking experience and just sucking and it clicking…maybe Matt Cassell?

Lance is closer to a finished product than this diamond in the rough. 49ers figured this out too late but when they did they departed.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Jay Daniels played 53 games at Cajon and set CIF-SS records with 210 touchdowns and over 17,600 total yards.

Bo Nix career stats in high school were staggering.10,393 passing yards, 127 passing touchdowns, 34 rushing touchdowns.
12,505 total yards of offense.

Penix Jr. finished his career 342-of-576 (59.4 percent) with 29 touchdowns, 15 interceptions, and five 300-yard games. He rushed for 165 yards on 64 attempts with six scores. Penix shares fifth in 300-yard games, and ranks sixth in completion percentage and 10th in passing TDs on Indiana’s career lists.

Trey Lance 893 yards passing, 8 TD passes, 46 completions, 88 attempts.

I have no idea how Trance can catch up in playing experience. He also has significantly less playing experience than all 3 in college. The kid needs a Time Machine.

This is my stance as well. He can’t go back in time and get the experience he needed to come into the pros and fulfill his potential. It’s not as easy as just getting playing time. He’s struggling to do things he should’ve learned in college.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Does that mean you don’t try because it’s unprecedented? Have you seen a QB career like Roger Staubach’s (military experience to star) or Kurt Warner’s (grocery to star to dud and back to star)?

This doesn’t stop you from drafting a QB. You might as well chase parallel opportunities.

This is my point. There’s only one Roger. One Warner. You’re trying to reinvent the wheel instead of just drafting and developing a guy out of college. This is the failure way.

 

[21Savage]

The NFL does not allow it, the UFL does not allow it, the CFL does not allow it, and most importantly, the NFLPA does not allow it.

Can they stop him from signing single season deals with each entity over a time period?

 

[21Savage]

This is my point. There’s only one Roger. One Warner. You’re trying to reinvent the wheel instead of just drafting and developing a guy out of college. This is the failure way.

I see where the sentiment is coming from. You’ve failed to comprehend the very post you just quoted. Nothing stops you from drafting a guy. If Lance shows promise, he gets more time. If he doesn’t, the other guy gets it.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Can they stop him from signing single season deals with each entity over a time period?

March 12, 2025 he can do whatever he likes as he’s not under contract with any team in any league. It’s still the United States of America.

 

[Chasing6]

This is my point. There’s only one Roger. One Warner. You’re trying to reinvent the wheel instead of just drafting and developing a guy out of college. This is the failure way.

Yes

 

[Chasing6]

You really love u some Dak Prescott , change your name bro. He's in year 10, he lacks mobility and brains. He chokes when it counts.

That's trash.

Trances lack of playing experience has nothing to do with Dak, other than Trance will continue to sit the bench in Dallas.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He broke his hand and his leg.

Missed two seasons.

that was not my point. he is inexperienced. he has been in the league for 4 years. NFL film rooms. working with NFL coaches and the best football players in the world. world class organization like SF.

but hey, he runs a 4.5 and can throw hard, lets just put him out there for the next 4 years in the hopes that he learns....why? perhaps because he was the 3rd pick of the draft (see Ryan Leaf, Turbiskey, etc.). or because we hate Dak so much we just are hanging on to a straw in the middle of tsunami.

and with all of that.... what's his ceiling? at best Geno Smith.....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

And how would he have broken our sitting behind Dak?

again. did anyone this offseason say, lets get darnold and get rid of Rush? or lets bring in Darnold and let Dak play his last season. remember, Dak wasn't signed.

NOBODY on this board mentioned anything about Darnold. but hey, every one here has a crystal ball after 18 games....

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I see where the sentiment is coming from. You’ve failed to comprehend the very post you just quoted. Nothing stops you from drafting a guy. If Lance shows promise, he gets more time. If he doesn’t, the other guy gets it.

I’m speaking about Jerry not you. Lance is an excuse not to draft someone.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

that was not my point. he is inexperienced. he has been in the league for 4 years. NFL film rooms. working with NFL coaches and the best football players in the world. world class organization like SF.

but hey, he runs a 4.5 and can throw hard, lets just put him out there for the next 4 years in the hopes that he learns....why? perhaps because he was the 3rd pick of the draft (see Ryan Leaf, Turbiskey, etc.). or because we hate Dak so much we just are hanging on to a straw in the middle of tsunami.

and with all of that.... what's his ceiling? at best Geno Smith.....

Basically.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You need to be able to run in the current NFL.

I disagree. today's NFL is a by product what's available in college without choice.
Passing is still key. the better passers succeed. that's what NFL still looks for.
You need a QB that's mobile, but not necessarily a runner. you want them to have ability to scramble, maybe get a few yards, but passing is key. if they can't pass. if they can't stand in the pocket and read a defense and make accurate throws, doesn't matter how much they can run, they won't succeed. the best of the runners is Lamar Jackson, but people forget he was 6th in passing.
Burrows was tops, and he is not a runner. neither is Goff or geno smith. Stroud only had 249 yards rushing. Mahomes had 300.

if the primary skill of a QB is running ability, then they don't belong in the NFL.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Basically.

thank you. people want to invest 3,4 years to maybe get a geno smith, so then they can complain the QB isn't good enough!!!!

 

[NotaCowboysFan]

He did but it wasn’t hard to play better then Daniel’s….he had a poor performance.

Eh, Daniels was literally under pressure from the get go, and he also threw plenty of good passes that weren’t caught or just a hair off. Washington wasn’t gonna risk him not being healthy for the playoffs the following week just for a difference of the 6th or 7th seed.

He never got the chance to redeem himself and that’s fine, they are still playing meaningful games.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Eh, Daniels was literally under pressure from the get go, and he also threw plenty of good passes that weren’t caught or just a hair off. Washington wasn’t gonna risk him not being healthy for the playoffs the following week just for a difference of the 6th or 7th seed.

He never got the chance to redeem himself and that’s fine, they are still playing meaningful games.

I mean this has nothing to do with what is being discussed. Daniel’s and a poor showing. Just like he had a poor one the previous game. Doesn’t mean he sucks it’s just a observation.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

thank you. people want to invest 3,4 years to maybe get a geno smith, so then they can complain the QB isn't good enough!!!!

I don’t understand it. The problem is people see hi skillet and think Mahomes or Allen. He’s not that. People use his experience as a positive thing. His lack of experience is what stunted his early development.

49ers figured this out. Even this team had only a second round grade on him. Everyone is telling these guys what he is and they still don’t want to see it.

 

[Chasing6]

He broke his hand and his leg.

Missed two seasons.

What were his excuses in HS?