Trey Lance mop up duty?

[Motorola]

Why would Lance "work something out" if he's going to be a superstar in this league? He'll be a FA in 25 then he can "work it out with" 31 other teams.

Who's Lance going to be a "superstar" in this league with?

 

[KingCorcoran]

Why would Lance "work something out" if he's going to be a superstar in this league? He'll be a FA in 25 then he can "work it out with" 31 other teams.

Or the nine teams in the CFL.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

As a diehard Cowboys fan I just don't understand why we wouldn't all hope for the best case scenario:

Dak continues his current productivity for several years and that gives the Cowboys opportunities to go deep into the playoffs in multiple seasons.

Meanwhile, Trey develops into a an extremely valuable quarterback that impresses the entire league during those few games where Dak is banged up. At some point the Cowboys trade Trey for a king's ransom.

An equally satisfactory scenario:

Dak decides to retire after the 2024 season when they win the Super Bowl for the 2nd time in a row. Trey's time in development has paid off even better than it did with Romo and he takes over, leading the Cowboys deep into the playoffs for several seasons.

I mean, why do we have to pit one quarterback against the other? Whatever current opinion fans may have about one of these guys, the majority of us are probably wrong anyway.

Most fans were wrong about Dalton Schultz, Dorrance Armstrong, Cooper Rush, Noah Brown, etc. They may not be superstars but they certainly weren't "total garbage", a common term used to describe them.

People have their agenda and some are pretty hardcore about.

And, a few ....are very obvious... come here to bully others to attempt life validation.

 

[Jimbo123]

Who's Lance going to be a "superstar" in this league with?

The Cowboys think so

 

[DuncanIso]

A phenom ??????????????????????????????????? Name 1 thing he is good at. The University of Minnesota was the first to see he'd be a bust at QB. This is his 3rd year in the league and he's still not ready.

Lance initially wanted to play at the University of Minnesota and had been ready to commit there after attending a recruiting event in February 2017. However, he was deemed a wide receiver or defensive back prospect by them and other Power Five schools.

I dont think there is any doubt the kid can play QB in the NFL. Youtube has a video of his QB work with the 49ers. Its impressive.

As they say, he "checks all the boxes."

We are lucky he had the two freak injuries.

Otherwise, we'd never make that trade.

 

[DuncanIso]

Ok. he plays week 17 and lights it up. Do the Cowboys exercise his 5th year option (+25M) in May 2024 or allow him to become a FA after 24?

They can always tag him.

Also, I don't think they use the 5th year option on him.

If Dak is a June cut, then Dallas still has to take the cap hit.
-31 million in 2024
-30 million in 2025

After 2024, they can work a deal with Lance.

 

[Motorola]

The Cowboys think so

It could happen; but it will be down the line...has to wait until #4 leaves

 

[csirl]

Dont need the 2 other QBs to be injured for the 3rd QB to play. Just that once the 3rd QB takes a snap the other 2 are ineligible to return.

 

[DallasEast]

Dont need the 2 other QBs to be injured for the 3rd QB to play. Just that once the 3rd QB takes a snap the other 2 are ineligible to return.

Do you believe Mike McCarthy will assume an injury risk to his third string emergency quarterback in your opinion?

 

[coult44]

Next summer. That's been the answer every time this question gets asked.

Only way he is active on game day is if Dak or Cooper are injured.

There’s a third possibility also. If we have a secured spot in the playoffs and the last game didn’t mean anything I could see them resting Dak and starting Cooper. I personally, would start Trey if Dak got hurt. Why? You’re not gonna make a deep playoff run if Dak his down anyway. Cooper I could win a game or four in the regular season, but there’s zero chance he could do that in the playoffs. Start the kid and see what happens .

 

[OmerV]

I just look at the cap.

The 2024 cap is -$11 million.

Dak has a $59.x million hit.

Lance has a $5 million hit.

That’s why they made the trade.

Why spend more $$$ on Dak when you have his replacement already?

FIRST: You said Jerry can change his mind, which means that even by your own admission he has the option to go either way (extending Dak or not). You can't say he is locked into one choice with one breath and say he could go either way with the next.. That amounts to contradicting yourself and covering your backside.

SECOND: The Cowboys do not have Dak's replacement ready. Neither we or the Cowboys know if Lance can be that guy yet.

THIRD: Other owners can find a way to pay big QB contracts, so do you really think Jerry can't do the same? Hell, he proved that with the last Dak negotiation.

 

[DuncanIso]

FIRST: You said Jerry can change his mind, which means that even by your own admission he has the option to go either way (extending Dak or not). You can't say he is locked into one choice with one breath and say he could go either way with the next.. That amounts to contradicting yourself and covering your backside.

SECOND: The Cowboys do not have Dak's replacement ready. Neither we or the Cowboys know if Lance can be that guy yet.

THIRD: Other owners can find a way to pay big QB contracts, so do you really think Jerry can't do the same? Hell, he proved that with the last Dak negotiation.

I agree with the 1st point you make. Jerry can change his mind anytime. But he would have to extend Dak. And that just adds to the problem.

If you look at the cap for 2024, you'll see the problem.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cap/2024/

They are already Negative 11 Million in the hole. And that includes an 11 million rollover from 2023.

Designating Dak as a June cut fixes the problem. POTENTIAL OUT: 2024, 3 YR, $126,000,000; $61,915,000 DEAD CAP

And Lance is a phenom.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Week 17 is the next to last game - Dec 30th v. Lions
Why not the final game of the season - Jan 7 @ Commanders?

Yeah I meant the final game.

 

[OmerV]

I agree with the 1st point you make. Jerry can change his mind anytime. But he would have to extend Dak. And that just adds to the problem.

If you look at the cap for 2024, you'll see the problem.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cap/2024/

They are already Negative 11 Million in the hole. And that includes an 11 million rollover from 2023.

Designating Dak as a June cut fixes the problem. POTENTIAL OUT: 2024, 3 YR, $126,000,000; $61,915,000 DEAD CAP

And Lance is a phenom.

We see teams with those what appears to be a bad cap situation all the time and teams find a way to make new big contracts work. They can distribute money in different ways over the contract, let a few high priced players go, renegotiate or restructure some existing contracts. Plus, the cap rises almost every year.

I'm not saying it's certain Dak stays, or that the size of the contract wouldn't be tough to manage, but they are going to have to know a lot more about Trey Lance before they make a decision to hand things over to Lance.

 

[Tabascocat]

Dont need the 2 other QBs to be injured for the 3rd QB to play. Just that once the 3rd QB takes a snap the other 2 are ineligible to return.

Completely false and the rule has been posted many times.

An Emergency Third Quarterback is permitted to enter a game only if the club's two active quarterbacks are unable to play either by disqualification or injury.

The only way the 3rd QB can play is if he listed as active, that means dressing three quarterbacks. Also, if the EQB does enter the game due to QB1/QB2 going out, the starter or backup can re-enter the game after being evaluated for injury and deemed able to return.

 

[Motorola]

Completely false and the rule has been posted many times.

An Emergency Third Quarterback is permitted to enter a game only if the club's two active quarterbacks are unable to play either by disqualification or injury.

The only way the 3rd QB can play is if he listed as active, that means dressing three quarterbacks. Also, if the EQB does enter the game due to QB1/QB2 going out, the starter or backup can re-enter the game after being evaluated for injury and deemed able to return.

Tabascocat - I've seen your earlier posts about the rule to clarify it for others.
But let the Cowboys blow out / put away the Panthers early on Sunday, and a reiteration of this thread will be posted after the game, or the following Monday \ Tuesday, followed by comments from other CZers with more incorrect interpretations of the rule.

 

[DallasEast]

Completely false and the rule has been posted many times.

An Emergency Third Quarterback is permitted to enter a game only if the club's two active quarterbacks are unable to play either by disqualification or injury.

The only way the 3rd QB can play is if he listed as active, that means dressing three quarterbacks. Also, if the EQB does enter the game due to QB1/QB2 going out, the starter or backup can re-enter the game after being evaluated for injury and deemed able to return.

lol. Hopefully Trey Lance will not go Tonya Harding on Dak Prescott and Cooper Rush solely to grant some fans a first-hand opportunity (not a first time for other fans and definitely not the first time for Dalas coaches) to see him play a series or two this season in a Cowboys uniform.

 

[joseephuss]

Dont need the 2 other QBs to be injured for the 3rd QB to play. Just that once the 3rd QB takes a snap the other 2 are ineligible to return.

That was how it worked the previous time the NFL utilized an emergency QB(QB3) designation. That is not the current rule. After QB3 is playing, if QB1 or QB2 get medically cleared during the game, they can re-enter the game and take snaps.

 

[Jimbo123]

I dont think there is any doubt the kid can play QB in the NFL. Youtube has a video of his QB work with the 49ers. Its impressive.

As they say, he "checks all the boxes."

We are lucky he had the two freak injuries.

Otherwise, we'd never make that trade.

He doesn't check any box. I guess the 49ers didn't watch the Youtube video you saw. Every NFL QB bust has a highlight video on Youtube . He's a XFL QB at best..

 

[Motorola]

lol. Hopefully Trey Lance will not go Tonya Harding on Dak Prescott and Cooper Rush solely to grant some fans a first-hand opportunity (not a first time for other fans and definitely not the first time for Dalas coaches) to see him play a series or two this season in a Cowboys uniform.

Lance can't be that blatant.
Look up former college classmates in the medical field, specializing in gastrointestinal issues.
Get the lowdown on what type of substance(s) that ingested, will temporarily incapacitate a male in top physical shape for 18 -24 hours.
Implement a plan where the QB group goes out to dinner on the eve of the DET or WAS game - and the substance is introduced into the meals of his signal-caller compadres.
Next day- go into the game and ball out.
That is all.