Adult Language Troy Aikman on the Pat McAfee Show: "Dak Will Be The First QB To $60 Million"

[Beast_from_East]

I read this morning that one of the sticking points is not money but the ability for the Cowboys to get out of the contract easy after 2 or 3 years if they want out. He wants security

Who doesnt want job security..................Intel just laid off 15,000 employees.

You think if any of them had the chance to negotiate for better job security they wouldn't have???

It would be stupid for Dak to agree to any contract that can be ripped up after 2 or 3 years when he can get a 5 or 6 year deal fully guaranteed on the open market.

 

[Bullflop]

I'm thinking Dak's agent has him convinced that he'll get $60,000,000 from Jerry if he just sticks with him. That's what seems obvious to me. Surely, Dak doesn't have to agree with him, but it's also quite possible that he'd be told to find another agent. It's easier for Dak to submit to that, knowing that his negotiations would be starting all over. Most of us might do the same in his position. In any event, we'll likely see what happens, shortly.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Nope.

One can tell against one who has run a business and one who hasn't.

For anybody that has run a business, they know the number one rule when it comes to manpower and employee headcount is asking one simple question................."How replaceable is person X"

That is really the only thing that really matters. If a person's job is to move boxes from one building to the next, guess what, they are pretty dam replaceable.

Now if their job is to runs reports, allocates budgets, files taxes, authorizes capital budgeting and incubation projects, ect.....guess what, they are kinda hard to replace with just your average Joe or Jane off the street.

So, relating that back to football, how replaceable is Dak for the Cowboys???...................Can they replace Dak without a significant drop in production???..............The answer to that question will tell you if they sign Dak or not.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I hope he gets it, just not in Dallas. With or without Dak, this team won’t get to another SB under the Joneses anyways.

Exactly.................this Cowboys are not going to a SuperBowl any time soon, regardless of if Dak is here or not.

When Dak leaves and the Cowboys still get beat in the first round, whose fault is it going to be then?

Parsons???...................I can already see the "dont pay Micah $40 mill, we will never go on a deep playoff run if you pay him".

 

[Beast_from_East]

Did Romo want 20% of the salary cap or even a little more like Dak wants?

The QB market is not the same now as it was back then..............Tua and Herbert, who have exactly 0 playoff wins, make more than $50 million a year..........that is the QB market in 2024.

Dak is asking to be paid in accordance with said market..............you can call it greed, not being a team player, or whatever else you want, but the facts are Dak has the right to ask for whatever he thinks his market value is.

 

[Miller]

Dude, you’ve been hating on him for awhile who are you kidding?

What are you taking about? I don’t hate on him. Heck I haven’t even been posting for around 6 mos. I call him out when he does bad like the playoff game and I’ll just as easily talk about when he does well and looks on point. I’m Dak agnostic. The only thing I don’t like is the Garrett act. Wish he’d just sound less scripted. I think more people here would be better served if they just were more independent and truthful week to week. We haven’t won anything in almost 30 yrs so we’ve had a lot of players waffle between looking really good and wetting the bed. Right now I don’t think Dak is the answer but it’s not hate.

 

[Diehardblues]

Exactly.................this Cowboys are not going to a SuperBowl any time soon, regardless of if Dak is here or not.

When Dak leaves and the Cowboys still get beat in the first round, whose fault is it going to be then?

Parsons???...................I can already see the "dont pay Micah $40 mill, we will never go on a deep playoff run if you pay him".

Yep. Part of the divide amongst fans is they don’t believe we can win with Prescott. So they want him gone even if he played for nothing.

What we need to do though is try to place ourselves in our owners mindset. He thinks he can win him. Or at least portrays that in public. And Jethro has also stated that “remaining relative and interesting” is initial priority. Which like him or not Prescott arguably is enough to maintain a playoff caliber team.

So the dilemma is what do we think our owner is going to do or what makes him more comfortable.

 

[McKDaddy]

$50 million a year is obviously not enough for these QBs.

Trever Lawrence.......$55 a year
Joe Burrow................$55 a year
Jordon Love..............$55 a year
Tua............................$53 a year
Justin Herbert............$53 a year
Lamar Jackson..........$52 a year
Jalen Hurts................$51 a year

Do these QBs not care about winning???..................They obviously thought $50 million a year was below their market value..............so are they not "team players"???

None of those are 3rd contracts. a big difference.

 

[Diehardblues]

$50 million a year is obviously not enough for these QBs.

Trever Lawrence.......$55 a year
Joe Burrow................$55 a year
Jordon Love..............$55 a year
Tua............................$53 a year
Justin Herbert............$53 a year
Lamar Jackson..........$52 a year
Jalen Hurts................$51 a year

Do these QBs not care about winning???..................They obviously thought $50 million a year was below their market value..............so are they not "team players"???

Oh wait. Prescott isn’t the only greedy QB. Lol

 

[pitt33]

What are you taking about? I don’t hate on him. Heck I haven’t even been posting for around 6 mos. I call him out when he does bad like the playoff game and I’ll just as easily talk about when he does well and looks on point. I’m Dak agnostic. The only thing I don’t like is the Garrett act. Wish he’d just sound less scripted. I think more people here would be better served if they just were more independent and truthful week to week. We haven’t won anything in almost 30 yrs so we’ve had a lot of players waffle between looking really good and wetting the bed. Right now I don’t think Dak is the answer but it’s not hate.

Dak isn’t the answer.

That’s been proven.

His best chance was in ‘22. The defense played well. Held SF to 19. Dak threw picks.

I get so tired with these fantasy football fans who look at regular season stats and proclaim him great.

His performance anxiety is glaring.

It’s like he morphs into a completely different quarterback.

And this season will be no exception.

 

[9of11]

I hope he gets all the money he can....football is a brutal sport...QB's may last longer but its still a short career...Look no further than Zeke...same year drafted...whats the average...5 years for a back...short career....It may screw over the Cowboys but in the end...its a job...Get it Dak!

 

[Flamma]

Who doesnt want job security..................Intel just laid off 15,000 employees.

You think if any of them had the chance to negotiate for better job security they wouldn't have???

It would be stupid for Dak to agree to any contract that can be ripped up after 2 or 3 years when he can get a 5 or 6 year deal fully guaranteed on the open market.

Sometimes you have to consider the job in question. What they get paid, and why they get paid a certain amount. In most cases in the NFL, if you live up to your contract, they will either keep you or restructure you. The out is only for players not living up to their contract. The players want the security just in case they start sucking.

The NFL is different than my job. Just showing up to work and doing the bare minimum doesn't cut it in the NFL. But I don't blame either side. Each are trying to protect themselves. I side with the team because my concern is the team, not any individual player.

 

[Flamma]

I'm thinking Dak's agent has him convinced that he'll get $60,000,000 from Jerry if he just sticks with him. That's what seems obvious to me. Surely, Dak doesn't have to agree with him, but it's also quite possible that he'd be told to find another agent. It's easier for Dak to submit to that, knowing that his negotiations would be starting all over. Most of us might do the same in his position. In any event, we'll likely see what happens, shortly.

This is just my high school educated opinion. It's possible that Dak and his agent know that if Dak hits FA, he will get 60+ a year. They're asking for that. He could be asking for 65M. If you don't pay him, what do you do?

 

[Diehardblues]

Sometimes you have to consider the job in question. What they get paid, and why they get paid a certain amount. In most cases in the NFL, if you live up to your contract, they will either keep you or restructure you. The out is only for players not living up to their contract. The players want the security just in case they start sucking.

The NFL is different than my job. Just showing up to work and doing the bare minimum doesn't cut it in the NFL. But I don't blame either side. Each are trying to protect themselves. I side with the team because my concern is the team, not any individual player.

Getting these big stars signed is arguably what’s in the best interest of the team.

These Cap implications are pitting Mgmt against the players which is unfair IMO as players bid for what’s in their best interest. Ultimately these players have to make financial decisions which are in their best interest.

Most of the time it aligns with what’s in the teams best interest. But we shouldn’t hold them in contempt for pursuing their fair market value.

 

[Typhus]

All true, but Dak is smart enough to know if he truly wants a team good enough to help him reach a championship game or super bowl, he (Dak) would be willing to take a little less to help the team keep or bring better talent to help this team go further in the playoffs.

Since Dak is refusing, he is straight out proving reaching a championship game or super bowl don't mean as much to him as getting a record setting contract.

Correct???

The no tag or trade, and 4 year term revealed everything about Dak.

 

[Flamma]

Getting these big stars signed is arguably what’s in the best interest of the team.

These Cap implications are pitting Mgmt against the players which is unfair IMO as players bid for what’s in their best interest. Ultimately these players have to make financial decisions which are in their best interest.

Most of the time it aligns with what’s in the teams best interest. But we shouldn’t hold them in contempt for pursuing their fair market value.

I don't blame the players. I would do the same thing. But I'm not taking their side if it hurts the team. Players like Zach Martin, AJ Brown, and Tyreek Hill all want more money in contract renegotiations because they are outplaying their contract. But you'll never see a player say they'll take less money because they suck, and are a drag on their team. Understandably so. But the counter balance to this is to have an out in case that happens.

A good example of this was the issue with Le'Veon Bell with the Steelers. Turned down a 5 year 75M dollar contract because his only guaranteed money was his 10M signing bonus. All he had to do is live up to his contract to get paid his contract. He wanted more guaranteed money in case he didn't. You can't blame the Steelers. We all saw how that turned out for him.

 

[ArtClink]

Agreed on the double standard being exposed against Dak than what was shown by fans towards Romo when Jerry gave Romo a top overall contract.

I don't agree Cowboys QBs deserve top overall pay, especially when they fail to lead their teams anywhere close to a playoff championship game, but I agree there is definitely a double standard among fans of certain Cowboys QBs.

Well said. My point is that the Jones management style puts a lot of obstacles to winning, esp making deep playoff runs and Dak, Romo, or our future QB is greatly handicapped as a result. Nothing is normal in Dallas and playing QB here is nothing like playing for an elite organization where winning in the playoffs is the top priority.

 

[ArtClink]

This is pretty much spot on. They seem to be using house rules. The 90s Cowboys won because there was an effort to put the better team on the field. That clearly isn't the priority right now.

But if we're talking about ridiculous QBs like Mahomes, or Brady and Manning in their prime, I think they would put us a notch higher. Not sure about a SB, but I think championship game at least. QBs like Romo, Stafford types, and especially Dak, they're not good enough to make up for Jerry's house rules.

Look at Rodgers with the Packers after 2010. Little effort to put the better team on the field by management. They put it all on Rodgers.

Great points. I know we would have a better chance at making a deep playoff run w Mahomes, but our defense can’t make critical stops in the playoffs.

• Cowboys at Packers “Dez Catch”: Sure we got ripped off by the refs but there was almost 5 min to play and we could not stop the run or a limping Aaron Rogers.
• Cowboys at Seattle “Romos Fumbled Snap”: Again, it was the defense who could not stop the run after Seahawks take over inside their ten yard line. If we force a 3 and out, then Romo gets one more chance. BTW, we are not even in this game if Romo doesn’t lead a furious comeback in 4th quarter.
• Packers at Cowboys: 4th and 25 (13-3 Season): Dak outplayed Rogers (stats are better) but defense plays matador defense and has an unforgivable 4th and 25 pass from Roger. This was a great chance wasted cause the defense spit the bit.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Signing Dak dooms the franchise for the next 5 years and guarantees Jones won't ever see another Super Bowl in his lifetime.
Dak does not have what it takes to advance in post season and has the worst all time record for a QB in post season minimum 7 starts. He's absolutely terrible. Dak is a classic stat padder than blows up stats in games anyone including Copper Rush could win and totally craps the bed against tough opponents. This has been proven over and over and over.

I agree that Dak has not always played great in the playoffs. But his rookie year against Green Bay he played well and they lost.

He played well against Tampa Bay and they won.

Dak cannot carry you for 4 straight playoff games. But there are maybe 2 - 3 QBs in the league who can

The BUSINESS of the NFL is not predicated on playoff/Super Bowl success. I guess I am not understanding why this is such a hard concept for fans to grasp!

Franchise QBs cost franchise QB money. But there is only ONE best QB in the NFL. Does that mean every other QB does not deserve to be paid or is overpaid?

 

[Flamma]

Great points. I know we would have a better chance at making a deep playoff run w Mahomes, but our defense can’t make critical stops in the playoffs.

• Cowboys at Packers “Dez Catch”: Sure we got ripped off by the refs but there was almost 5 min to play and we could not stop the run or a limping Aaron Rogers.
• Cowboys at Seattle “Romos Fumbled Snap”: Again, it was the defense who could not stop the run after Seahawks take over inside their ten yard line. If we force a 3 and out, then Romo gets one more chance. BTW, we are not even in this game if Romo doesn’t lead a furious comeback in 4th quarter.
• Packers at Cowboys: 4th and 25 (13-3 Season): Dak outplayed Rogers (stats are better) but defense plays matador defense and has an unforgivable 4th and 25 pass from Roger. This was a great chance wasted cause the defense spit the bit.

Can't argue a single thing here. I think the turning point in the Dez catch game was the Murray fumble. We were taking over that game at their place. Then that happened.

The Seattle fumbled snap. There was about a minute twenty left. Even if we got that FG, at the time I thought Seattle would get in FG range anyway.

The last loss against the Packers in 2016, I thought we didn't stand a chance against that Falcons team had we beat the Packers. But we'll never know. I just know their offense was outstanding and our D was weak at best.