Troy Aikman: 'Unless practices change,' Cowboys may not win a title in another 20 years either

[daveferr33]

lol. Jerry the owner is gonna relinquish control. Why even bother suggesting.

Its called diagnosing the problem. Just because the powers that be won't follow the solution (which is obvious) doesn't mean we shouldn't diagnose the problem. What other choice is there? Convincing oneself that an organization that does not operate like any other (and certainly not like any of the top organizations) is going to somehow compete on a consistent basis in this league?

To borrow an astute analogy. Some of us find it difficult to get excited about the new storm windows and gutters, when we see the rot in the foundation.

 

[J_Allen]

Its called diagnosing the problem. Just because the powers that be won't follow the solution (which is obvious) doesn't mean we shouldn't diagnose the problem. What other choice is there? Convincing oneself that an organization that does not operate like any other (and certainly not like any of the top organizations) is going to somehow compete on a consistent basis in this league?

To borrow an astute analogy. Some of us find it difficult to get excited about the new storm windows and gutters, when we see the rot in the foundation.

My question is this:



Is it really worth it anymore?

 

[DenCWBY]

Its called diagnosing the problem. Just because the powers that be won't follow the solution (which is obvious) doesn't mean we shouldn't diagnose the problem. What other choice is there? Convincing oneself that an organization that does not operate like any other (and certainly not like any of the top organizations) is going to somehow compete on a consistent basis in this league?

To borrow an astute analogy. Some of us find it difficult to get excited about the new storm windows and gutters, when we see the rot in the foundation.

 

[KJJ]

Yep! If people aren't sunshine pumping 100% of the time they're considered haters.

And that goes for former players who led the team to championships and had a HOF career. Cowboy FANS hate hearing the truth.

 

[tyke1doe]

"I don't know," said Aikman. "This team, for 20 years, really has been so inconsistent. And unless practices change, I don't see that changing any time soon. You look back at last year and 12-4 and get excited about that, but was 12-4 really what this team is or is 8-8? I don't think 4-12 is this year because of the injuries that occurred.

"But you've got to do it more than once every seven or eight years before you can say, 'Hey, the things that we're doing are really paying off.' It's been a long history of frustration and up-and-down years, and, for the most part, disappointment.

"And I think you've got to be able to look back on something and say, 'OK, we're building something here and these things that we do pay off,' but I haven't seen that, so I don't anticipate any time soon anything being any different from what we've seen the last 20 years."

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...cowboys-may-win-title-another-20-years-either

It's like Aikman was reading the thread "The Season That Should Have Been."

It's all about patterns. You can't look at the moment in isolation. You have to look at the moment and evaluate the patterns.

It's the same with behavior (Manziel and Hardy) as it is with teams and their histories and fortunes.

And based on our pattern, 12-4 was more an aberration than a sign of good things to come. But maybe we'll establish another pattern of winning consistently and maybe the injuries broke the establishment of that new pattern.

We shall see.

 

[KJJ]

Negative comments about the current team from former players who were apart of the Cowboys championship years during the 70's and 90's always stings the FAN base. It's easy to shrug off negative comments from those in the media or opposing players but when it comes from former Cowboy players who are wearing championship rings under Landry and Jimmy it carries a lot more of a punch. When a former player who's been part of championships isn't seeing the practice habits and coaching that are necessary to win a championship it's concerning to everyone who follows the Cowboys. Troy has become a whipping boy for some FANS because he gives honest, candid opinions about the team and refuses to be a homer. He cares about the Cowboys they made him the #1 overall pick in 1989 and the success he had earned him a bust in Canton and a great postseason career in broadcasting.

Troy's frustrated with the team just like all of us and being one of the most respected players to ever wear a star his strong comments might do some good. What do some of you expect him to say after a 4-12 season that the Cowboys are on the right track? He sees just like everyone else they've had only one winning/playoff season the last 6 years and haven't gotten past the second round of the playoffs since he was the QB 20 ******* years ago. Every time Troy gives an honest opinion about the team a few FANS start crying that he doesn't love us anymore. LOL He's starting to receive almost as much hate from the FAN base as Joe Buck.

FANS expect Troy to cheerlead because he played for the team. He pulls for the Cowboys and compliments Romo all the time but he has a job to do and to do it well he has to be honest. At 4-12 the Cowboys deserve to be trashed and I'm glad a high profile former Cowboy who's won championships and is in our ROH is pointing out some of the problems that have caused the organization to spin it's wheels the past 20 years. If anyone knows what it takes to be a championship team it's Troy Aikman.

 

[tyke1doe]

I'm one of the few people that thinks Aikman gives unbiased opinions on the Cowboys. Is what he said "talking crap" or is it just accurate and it kind of stings?

I'm among the few too. I've never thought he was overly critical of the Cowboys. I think his commentary is on point.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

And that goes for former players who led the team to championships and had a HOF career. Cowboy FANS hate hearing the truth.

And the funniest comments are that Aikman is jealous of Romo. lol

 

[tyke1doe]

Then he should say it. Until then I can only interpret it as such.

YR

I thought/think it's pretty clear from the context that he's talking about policies/procedures/ways of doing things as an organization/direction of the franchise than mock scrimmages on a field type practice.

But such is the nature of misinterpretation.

 

[tyke1doe]

And the funniest comments are that Aikman is jealous of Romo. lol

That's a retort that children tend to make.

 

[tyke1doe]

You know the word "practices" means other things than just running a bunch of players on a field a few times a week, right?

Bingo!

Not to mention what Aikman says afterwards:

But you've got to do it more than once every seven or eight years before you can say, 'Hey, the things that we're doing are really paying off.' It's been a long history of frustration and up-and-down years, and, for the most part, disappointment.

So you've got to practice (on the field) more than seven or eight years?
You mean the Cowboys just practice on the field once out of every seven or eight years?

In context, interpreting Troy to mean practice on the field really doesn't make sense.

However, if you're talking about a way of doing things that ensures the overall success of your franchise, then practice - meaning the practical application of your vision for your team - makes more sense.

And what Aikman is saying is the Cowboys need a consistent vision for success, they need to implement that vision, and they need to stick with it.

That's what the Steelers do. They commit to a plan, and they don't waver. Yes, they may not complete for the playoffs each year. But they have a vision/a plan, they stick to it and pretty soon they're back in contention and back in the Super Bowl chase.

 

[jnday]

And that goes for former players who led the team to championships and had a HOF career. Cowboy FANS hate hearing the truth.

Troy knows more about winning than anybody in Dallas, but posters bash him for telling the truth.

 

[KJJ]

Troy knows more about winning than anybody in Dallas, but posters bash him for telling the truth.

That's how screwed up this FAN base is it's the same FAN base that booed him nearing the end of his career.

 

[KJJ]

And the funniest comments are that Aikman is jealous of Romo. lol

Those who think that might want to click on the link. You won't find a more delusional FAN base than this one.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4691075/troy-aikman-tony-romo-better-than-i-was

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I'm among the few too. I've never thought he was overly critical of the Cowboys. I think his commentary is on point.

Exactly. I have the same reaction when people use the term "mediots." What should the media be writing about a team that has zero championship game appearances in 20 years ?

 

[tyke1doe]

Exactly. I have the same reaction when people use the term "mediots." What should the media be writing about a team that has zero championship game appearances in 20 years ?

That we're trying.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Troy is spot on. And I dont think we see any consistency either.

Lets just hope for that "one good year"..... I do have an anticaption that next year might just be a good one.............but everything has to fall in place. Everything has to go our way.... We cant overcome bad luck and adverisity like other teams/franchise. We fold. And fold quickly.

 

[KJJ]

And the funniest comments are that Aikman is jealous of Romo. lol

Wonder what they think he's jealous of Romo's playoff record and lack of Super Bowl's? lol There's no logic behind some of the comments that are made here. If anything Troy feels sorry for Romo being stuck on such a dysfunctional team. If Jerry had made some of the moves he's made during Romo's tenure when Aikman was the QB Emmitt would have been allowed to walk during the 93 season and Jerry would have banked on his OL with an average back running behind it. Everything would have been put on Troy's shoulders and the great Super Bowl run we had would have never happened.

 

[ConstantReboot]

That boils down to effectively game planning...and practices of management/coaching

But why game plan if your using the same plan each and every game? Why keep running the same play over and over and expect different results?

On 3rd and short situations everyone knew that the Cowboys was running it up the middle. Then low and behold, we are so surprised that the defense stopped it. We were last this year on 3rd and 1 situations and that had nothing to do with Romo being hurt.

I don't understand this madness and I wish for it to end.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

My question is this:



Is it really worth it anymore?

Depends on what kiND of a diehard fan you are. Some of us harder to kill off. JERRY would have to recruit a bunch of idiots from ISIS to really kill me.

Jerry Jones is one chapter of the Cowboys organization in a historical perspective. Okay maybe 2 chapters.