News: Tucker: Decision on Jason Garrett's future should already be made

[Vanilla2]

only in bizarro cowboy homer land does a HC whose team goes 13-3 and goes to the playoffs 2 times in 4 years with a playoff win, get reviled as a horrible HC whereas a HC whose team goes 8-8 for 3 consecutive seasons missing the playoffs gets hailed as the next greatest HC and a savior

Did he do it with bills team?

If not Barry has some respect due from this fanbase.

 

[TwoDeep3]

The article makes an excellent case, and I agree with all of it. However, within the reality distortion field of Jerryland, it probably is no more comprehensible than if it were written in Urdu and read backwards in a funhouse mirror.

That made me laugh. Nicely played.

 

[Zordon]

only in bizarro cowboy homer land does a HC whose team goes 13-3 and goes to the playoffs 2 times in 4 years with a playoff win, get reviled as a horrible HC whereas a HC whose team goes 8-8 for 3 consecutive seasons missing the playoffs gets hailed as the next greatest HC and a savior

it's crazy isn't it lol.

 

[silver]

The fact remains, Belichick was a loser of a head coach until Tom Brady arrived. He sucked in Cleveland and he sucked in New England prior to Brady.

I'd bet money he'll retire when Brady does. Otherwise, he'll get exposed. Not that he isn't a good coach, but he's nowhere near one of the greats. His teacher was twice the head coach he'll ever be.

He did win 11 games with Matt Cassel in 2008.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

He did win 11 games with Matt Cassel in 2008.

And went 11-5 in 1994 with freaking Vinny at QB.

 

[Parcells4Life]

Problem with this theory is how coaches are hired. USC basketball hired Florida Gulf Coasts coach after seeing him win 3 games in the tournament. Had he been ousted like most, his name would have never come up since most had never heard of him.

Careers are made based on the final weeks of the year. If he comes through he should stay. If he doesn't he should leave.

Coughlin with the Giants has been limping to the end the last seven years. Difference is 2 of those years he got hot at the right time and now people are considering him for the Hall of Fame

 

[silver]

And went 11-5 in 1994 with freaking Vinny at QB.

Yep, the man knows what he's doing. You dont luck into multiple superbowls appearences.

 

[visionary]

Did he do it with bills team?

If not Barry has some respect due from this fanbase.

if that is an honest question, and it might well be, i can only shake my head

i do hope that as a cowboy fan you realize that wade did that in his 4 years with the cowboys under the same constraints where garrett's continued failure is all excused as jerry's fault

 

[visionary]

That's funny, I can swear it was the prized and widely respected Ozzie Newsome who was all set to sign that same cadet to pilot his space shuttle before Jerry stepped in. People seem to forget how widely regarded Jason was prior to becoming Dallas' head coach.

Even someone like Ozzie deserves a mulligan
you can bet ozzie goes down pn bended knee every day and thanks his lucky stars he did not hire mr. princeton
I bet his answer would be different if harbaugh quits and garrett is fired and becomes available

 

[Deep_South]

Ross Tucker Sporting News

The Dallas Cowboys should fire coach Jason Garrett whether they win on Sunday night or not.

That was my immediate reaction when the news broke this past weekend that Garrett wouldn't be brought back for another season if the 'Boys fail to make the playoffs yet again.

But should it even come down to that? I say no because I am philosophically opposed to the concept of retaining the football operations leader of a multi-billion-dollar enterprise based upon one play.

Think of it this way: If the Washington Commanders hadn't inexplicably dropped coverage on DeMarco Murray on fourth-and-goal from the 10-yard line and allowed the Cowboys to score the game-winning touchdown Sunday, the Eagles would have clinched the division. Under that scenario, Garrett would be as good as gone if published reports are to be believed.

That makes no sense at all. Can you imagine General Electric or Apple or Goldman Sachs or any other business making a determination that significant based on a ridiculously small and arbitrary sample size? Of course not. That's why the Cowboys shouldn't make the determination in that manner either.

Read the rest: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2013-12-24/jason-garrett-cowboys-future-jerry-jones-tony-tomo

1st sentence in the article:

"The Dallas Cowboys should fire coach Jason Garrett whether they win on Sunday night or not."

Then later...

"Personally I'd love to see Garrett get another season."

 

[Vanilla2]

if that is an honest question, and it might well be, i can only shake my head

i do hope that as a cowboy fan you realize that wade did that in his 4 years with the cowboys under the same constraints where garrett's continued failure is all excused as jerry's fault

Barry is looked down upon because he won with the team jimmy built.

Wade had romo, ware witten (this teams current core of leaders) among others in the prime of their youth.

All who were added during Parcells tenure.

What talent was added during wades time as HC?

Spencer? Help me out I really can't think of others.

As successful as that time may have been it was truly short lived because of the ineptitude of his drafts.

I'm not saying Garrett is perfect or even the best HC the cowboys can currently, but I think folks (maybe not you) build up the Phillips tenure because of their anti Garrett agenda.

Just like Switzer is frowned upon because of their pro jimmy agenda.

 

[khiladi]

if that is an honest question, and it might well be, i can only shake my head

i do hope that as a cowboy fan you realize that wade did that in his 4 years with the cowboys under the same constraints where garrett's continued failure is all excused as jerry's fault

Hell, they were favored to make a run in the playoffs, if not for that one in a million cross court music city miracle play... Ironic that nobody credits Shanny for benefitting off the team that Reeves and Wade built.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Barry is looked down upon because he won with the team jimmy built.

Wade had romo, ware witten (this teams current core of leaders) among others in the prime of their youth.

All who were added during Parcells tenure.

What talent was added during wades time as HC?

Spencer? Help me out I really can't think of others.

Lee? Dez?

Even Scandrick has probably been our best DB this year. Free's been good as well.

Also, I love how the clock expired on Romo, Ware, and Witten right when Wade was fired. Poor Garrett got them a mere weeks after they couldn't play anymore. What a coincidence.

 

[khiladi]

Let's also not act like Garrett had any hand in the offensive picks during Wade's era. The stench of Garrett's culture runs deep. I credit Wade and Romo for winning despite this incompetent clown.

Don't forget it was Wade that made Ratliff NT and got the most out of him when he was here.

 

[bysbox1]

So I guess this bullet point from his resume prior to Jones hiring him as offensive coordinator is not as impressive?

He entered the coaching profession in February of 2005 as the quarterbacks coach for Nick Saban's first Miami Dolphins club. While in Miami, Garrett capably handled the challenge of having to work with five different starting quarterbacks over the course of 32 regular season games. In 2005 Miami quarterbacks threw 22 touchdowns with just 16 interceptions. Their plus-six differential was the team's best since the 1998 season when they were a plus-seven (23-16). In 2006 Garrett managed three starting quarterbacks for an offensive unit that produced four pass receivers who each had at least 55 receptions. It marked the first time in club history that four different receivers had at least 55 catches.

I hope you were being sarcastic because it's not. Especially considering the fact that the QB's threw almost as many interceptions as touchdowns, and add to that most head coaches have more than a 2 year body of work under sucessfull programs, whether it's college or the pro ranks.

 

[Idgit]

1st sentence in the article:

"The Dallas Cowboys should fire coach Jason Garrett whether they win on Sunday night or not."

Then later...

"Personally I'd love to see Garrett get another season."

Weirdly inconsistent language aside, I think he's got a decent point. I'm a big fan of Garretts (still am), but I don't relish the idea of a lame-duck season next year. As much caterwauling as it'd cause, I think I'd prefer to see a two-year extension on the table if he's going to stick around another season. Failing that, if there's a really good coaching option available, I'd strongly consider moving on. Not because I don't like the coach, but because I don't think Dallas would be a situation conducive to success with a one-year contract (next year's JG's last year, right?), a giant questionmark on defense, a disgruntled and entitled fanbase that doesn't appreciate anything positive from the last three season, little cap room and a major rebuilding project suddenly necessary on the DL. That's a tall order for a lame duck and the kind of situation where things could go south, fast, if they don't do an amazing job next offseason patching holes.

 

[Alexander]

I hope you were being sarcastic because it's not. Especially considering the fact that the QB's threw almost as many interceptions as touchdowns, and add to that most head coaches have more than a 2 year body of work under sucessfull programs, whether it's college or the pro ranks.

Five different QBs, 22 TDs vs. 16 INTs! You cannot top that, you just can't!

 

[bysbox1]

A coach like Belicheck does not come here under those conditions. Which goes to my point that we agree RS that the situation here is an insane circus. But I think we also agree that an elite coach can work thru all of the malarky and prevail. Give Parcells one more year and I think we're in the Super Bowlin 07. An elite head coach who makes sure to set strict guidelines on Jerry before signing a contract can get it done. So, I have to ask do you think this puppy dog Garrett is that guy?

Gruden, Gruden, Gruden, Gruden . . . . . . . . . . .

 

[Alexander]

Also, I love how the clock expired on Romo, Ware, and Witten right when Wade was fired. Poor Garrett got them a mere weeks after they couldn't play anymore. What a coincidence.

Ultimately, I believe Romo will be remembered more as a "what if". "What if" he had Sean Payton his whole career, instead of the man who once coached Joey Harrington to unparalleled success.

 

[bysbox1]

only in bizarro cowboy homer land does a HC whose team goes 13-3 and goes to the playoffs 2 times in 4 years with a playoff win, get reviled as a horrible HC whereas a HC whose team goes 8-8 for 3 consecutive seasons missing the playoffs gets hailed as the next greatest HC and a savior

This . . . .

And based on Jerry's logic for firing Wade, Garrett should be gone as well. But in some weird alternative universe called Jerry Jones, Garrett gets a pass for being mediocre and disorganized.

Jerry Jones really gave Wade no rope considering the team was 11-5 the year before and was in the playoffs.