Tyreek Arrested prior to game. now released

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Video showed Hill being a rude idiot. He didn't roll his window down when the officer approached so the officer knocked on his window. Hill then proceeds to tell the officer to not knock on his window several times......and it just went south from there. The video shows it all.
 

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Preferably that they wouldn't pull a man out of his car, slam him on the ground by the back of the neck, cuff him, and detain him via knee to the back....then again slamming a sitting, cuffed man to the ground. They also cuffed Calais Campbell and cited TE Smith, despite staying 25 ft back the entire time.

Dude, none of this is OK. I know I can be idealistic at times, but I was mortified while reading the recap of the body camera footage. As a public servant , you can't ragdoll somebody because they gave you lip. These guys were immediately placed on admin leave, pending investigation. There is absolutely no excuse for their actions.
Well, now Hill knows how his pregnant girlfriend felt when he assaulted her. The dude is a POS and the video confirms that he is an arrogant one at that.
 

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bluntly speaking in this day and age the cops being put on admin leave is going to happen any time there is a lot of publicity

now that it seems clear he was driving recklessly; and then refused to cooperate, then their behavior is more in line. Though maybe they went too far but the blame is much more on HIM then them.

and once again this is the same person who has a prior record of violence.
 

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bluntly speaking in this day and age the cops being put on admin leave is going to happen any time there is a lot of publicity

now that it seems clear he was driving recklessly; and then refused to cooperate, then their behavior is more in line. Though maybe they went too far but the blame is much more on HIM then them.

and once again this is the same person who has a prior record of violence.
It is a bit of both in my opinion. He was a jerk and a couple of the officers(not all of those present) went too far.
 

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It is a bit of both in my opinion. He was a jerk and a couple of the officers(not all of those present) went too far.
I think the worst job in the world anymore is being a cop.
and of course that means what you get to fills those jobs....
I am amazed it is not worse
 

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Well, now Hill knows how his pregnant girlfriend felt when he assaulted her. The dude is a POS and the video confirms that he is an arrogant one at that.
What if it was Lamb or Micah? Hill's past is irrelevant. This is about the use of excessive force by those that are sworn to protect the general population.
 

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No winners here. Hill was an *** for speeding, initially ignoring calls to pull over and then how he initially interacted with the cops. He escalated this from the start. His whining about the cop tapping his window is bizarre considering he didn't roll his tinted window down in the first place, which pretty much all other people do that are pulled over. Then rolling it back up creates a safety issue for cops. A friend who is a cop told me that tinted windows present a problem because once Hill or anyone in that situation rolls up their window, the cop can't see what's going on in the car - is he reaching for a weapon, is he about to shift the car into drive and try to make a getaway, etc. If Hill handles this better from the start, none of this happens.............

However........... while the cops were largely correct in how they handled it up until that point, when they ripped open the door and ripped him out of the car, they went too far and that likely is going to land them in some hot water. My buddy said, even if they had opened the door, they could have let him step out or even just helped him out. They went 0-60 in like 2 seconds and ripped him out. It's tough to argue against Hill's claims that he was trying to get out himself because the cops were so quick to rip open the door and yank him out, not giving him any time to get out himself.

So as I said, no winners here.
 

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What if it was Lamb or Micah? Hill's past is irrelevant. This is about the use of excessive force by those that are sworn to protect the general population.
Hill made the stop more confrontational than it had to be. Thats pretty clear. He wasn't injured and got to play on sunday.

While the fact he is a POS did not impact this stop, it certainly impacts my level of sympathy for him.
 

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What if it was Lamb or Micah? Hill's past is irrelevant. This is about the use of excessive force by those that are sworn to protect the general population.
Agreed, his past is irrelevant, but his actions there weren't

Put yourself in the place of the officer. When your walking up to a vehicle with deep tinted windows and they are refusing to roll them down....there is no telling what they are doing. The police are put in a terrible spot in todays society...and the narrative being pushed. Heck, Hill was on CNN this morning pushing this same narrative and the video was out of him being a complete clown. Any real news organization would have seen the video and decided, it's probably not a good idea to let him act like a victim here.
 

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Watching the video he didn’t cooperate with the police and neither did the others. They kept trying to get him to roll down his window and he wouldn’t. All he had to do was follow their commands and it probably would’ve led to nothing.
 

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What if it was Lamb or Micah? Hill's past is irrelevant. This is about the use of excessive force by those that are sworn to protect the general population.
I'd be saying the same thing about Lamb and Micah.

Reckless drivers get no sympathy - then to be non-compliant and my sympathy drops into the negatives. He got off easy.
 

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At the very least, the NFL should fine him for his mockery of the police in his TD celebration. It only fuels the weak minded followers who "hate the cops". Also, he has repeatedly played the victim card despite video to the contrary.
But Roger and the empty suits at NFL Offices won't do squat, I'm guessing.
Hill's "platform", as he called it, is being used to slander and endanger the lives of police.
 

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What if it was Lamb or Micah? Hill's past is irrelevant. This is about the use of excessive force by those that are sworn to protect the general population.
Ha! Excessive force. I guess they should've just left when he refused to comply over and over.
Dude was on the phone with his slimy agent the whole time.
Hill's past is very much relevant. It shows a pattern.
The "wife beater" shirt is a nice touch...lol/smh
 

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I did some reading up on this in my free time at work and if yall haven't already watched the full body cam and read the recap, you need to before taking one side or the other. If you don't care to do so, I don't care what you have to say. All parties are at fault. This situation was diffused when Hill agreed to exit his vehicle, and one of the responding officers felt the need to grab him out of his car and slam him by the neck face first onto the hot pavement, despite the fact that Hill had shown no aggression or intent to harm.

Think what you want, but this type of aggression from those that have taken an oath to serve and protect is alarming. I'm prior military. I've deployed to hot zones in Iraq and Afghanistan, and am very familiar with dangerous situations. This one didn't have to play out the way it did..but it did. Think what you want, but this is crap.

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/am...ll-what-we-know-miami-dolphins-detainment-spt

 

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I did some reading up on this in my free time at work and if yall haven't already watched the full body cam and read the recap, you need to before taking one side or the other. If you don't care to do so, I don't care what you have to say. All parties are at fault. This situation was diffused when Hill agreed to exit his vehicle, and one of the responding officers felt the need to grab him out of his car and slam him by the neck face first onto the hot pavement, despite the fact that Hill had shown no aggression or intent to harm.

Think what you want, but this type of aggression from those that have taken an oath to serve and protect is alarming. I'm prior military. I've deployed to hot zones in Iraq and Afghanistan, and am very familiar with dangerous situations. This one didn't have to play out the way it did..but it did. Think what you want, but this is crap.

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/am...ll-what-we-know-miami-dolphins-detainment-spt


Dude refused to cooperate. Bottom line.
All this appeasing of an NFL player playing victim with the media helping him is disgusting.
Anyone placing blame on the cops is a disappointing individual. Too many people have been easily programmed.
 

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I'd be saying the same thing about Lamb and Micah.

Reckless drivers get no sympathy - then to be non-compliant and my sympathy drops into the negatives. He got off easy.
I put 99% of the blame on Hill here. My only point of contention is I didn't see him driving recklessly. You see him drive by at around 50-60mph at the 30 second mark. I guess they can consider that reckless if the speed limit was 30. Reckless in Florida is described as....

  • Any person who drives any vehicle in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property
I didn't see that.
 

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I put 99% of the blame on Hill here. My only point of contention is I didn't see him driving recklessly. You see him drive by at around 50-60mph at the 30 second mark. I guess they can consider that reckless if the speed limit was 30. Reckless in Florida is described as....

  • Any person who drives any vehicle in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property
I didn't see that.
Usually 20mph over the limit is considered reckless driving. Not sure what Florida's law is. It was reported he drove thru a construction zone.
 

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Usually 20mph over the limit is considered reckless driving. Not sure what Florida's law is. It was reported he drove thru a construction zone.
Yeah, it's somewhere around there. I'm glad that was never the case when I was driving in my youth. And yes, it was a construction zone.

Also, Hill telling everyone he was respectful to the police is laughable.
 

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I put 99% of the blame on Hill here. My only point of contention is I didn't see him driving recklessly. You see him drive by at around 50-60mph at the 30 second mark. I guess they can consider that reckless if the speed limit was 30. Reckless in Florida is described as....

  • Any person who drives any vehicle in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property
I didn't see that.
He was flying in the video, way over the speed limit dude. Police officer said "estimated 60mph". The video shows it was probably faster than that.
 

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He was flying in the video, way over the speed limit dude. Police officer said "estimated 60mph". The video shows it was probably faster than that.
That's what it looked like to me too. But 60mph isn't flying IMO. Cops have a pretty good idea how fast someone is going from a stand still position. They watch traffic a lot.
 
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