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Mayweather ducked Pac Mac for a long time. You could argue that Manny left his prime in that time. I'm not saying Rousey is doing that, but she could be starting it now she's fighting Tate for a third time.

When was the last time that happened, where it was a chapter 3 not being a rubber match? Can't think of one.

Rampage versus Wanderlei. Wandy won first two but Rampage claimed the third.

I am sure it has happened a few times with the older dudes when the divisions weren't as large.

There are only so many 135 women who can really fight. It's growing but it isn't like the men's side.
All that said Might Mouse at 135 for men might be looking at the same issues.
He's walloped Benavides twice but no one except dom cruz and might mouse can beat benavides.
 

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I have no idea what this means.

They are not in the same organization thus can not fight.
UFC fighters can not fight non-UFC fighters.

Cyborg can't sign a contract with Rousey, she has to sign one with the UFC then get the match up.

The UFC won't give her a one fight deal or allow her to walk in never having made 135 before.
She has to work a deal to join the org and go from there. Ronda can ask for her but that's all she can do.

Cyborg has known the road to take for years now.
 

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She's a disgrace to the sport. A quick visual will tell you she's juicing.

*Has juiced*

There are a number of UFC fighters and legends who were on steroids, got caught and got off, but still has the respect of the masses.

One female fighter that has juiced in the past all of a sudden gets the Crimson Letter for eternity because of it now?

She looks manly because the testosterone physically changed her features when she got it, being off of steroids doesn't make you go back to looking feminine. I am confident Cyborg is/has been clean since she got popped.
 

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They are not in the same organization thus can not fight.
UFC fighters can not fight non-UFC fighters.

Cyborg can't sign a contract with Rousey, she has to sign one with the UFC then get the match up.

The UFC won't give her a one fight deal or allow her to walk in never having made 135 before.
She has to work a deal to join the org and go from there. Ronda can ask for her but that's all she can do.

Cyborg has known the road to take for years now.

Cyborg has a credible win. TKO over Gina Carano who was the most popular WMMA fighter/pioneer at the time.
 

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Are you boy geniuses really suggesting Rousey should leave the UFC to go fight Invicta for ONE fight???
Good lord help the logic.

The only way the fight occurs (in the near future) is for Cyborg to get in the UFC.
It would make her millions in all likelihood so why hasn't she done it?
She's had 4 years to drop 10 freaking pounds.

Listen you can cut that ******* logic for a start, I said I have no horse in this race and you are just conjuring up things now. When did I say she should leave. Good lord just stop making up arguments. Its insane.

She cuts weight to get to 145, so cutting further isn't as easy as taking a big crap. If it wasn't an issue she could do it. Mcgregor apparently cut 27 pounds for his weigh in and was walking around like a junkie. Now they have banned the intravenous drips this has become even harder.
 

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The worse female fighter they have would kill even most guys out there lol

yup, if on cardio alone.
i could whoop on most of these ladies and even the 135 pound men for about 45 seconds then my heart would explode like mortal kombat.
 

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Cyborg has a credible win. TKO over Gina Carano who was the most popular WMMA fighter/pioneer at the time.

ROFL!!!!
Carano was a mediocre at best kick boxer who happened to be pretty and had family money/connections.
She was scared to death in the ring with Cyborg... I know I watched the fight.
Comparing that with Ronda is hilarious.
Ronda has fought her entire life and did so as am amateur with nothing but medals on the line.
She is a true athlete.
 

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They are not in the same organization thus can not fight.
UFC fighters can not fight non-UFC fighters.

Cyborg can't sign a contract with Rousey, she has to sign one with the UFC then get the match up.

The UFC won't give her a one fight deal or allow her to walk in never having made 135 before.
She has to work a deal to join the org and go from there. Ronda can ask for her but that's all she can do.

Cyborg has known the road to take for years now.

But that was doesn't make sense. The UFC doesn't have a weight class higher than 135? The invent one. Who will complain? If it's between Dana and Rousey to make the call, than just say it's a one off at 140 thats not for the title. All these hurdles.seem to be self imposed.
 

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yup, if on cardio alone.
i could whoop on most of these ladies and even the 135 pound men for about 45 seconds then my heart would explode like mortal kombat.

On top of that, most people don't know how to sprawl, so they'd just end up on their back.
 

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that's so funny! That one chick you guys are talking about..Cyborg...that "female" looks male to me.

Steroids'll do that to you. Personally I don't know why a girl would want to ruin her body like that, but to each their own I guess.
 

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Listen you can cut that ******* logic for a start, I said I have no horse in this race and you are just conjuring up things now. When did I say she should leave. Good lord just stop making up arguments. Its insane.

She cuts weight to get to 145, so cutting further isn't as easy as taking a big crap. If it wasn't an issue she could do it. Mcgregor apparently cut 27 pounds for his weigh in and was walking around like a junkie. Now they have banned the intravenous drips this has become even harder.

Dude, just stop saying stupid things and it won't feel like I am picking on you.
I am not sure Ronda would win if they did fight and was a fan of Cyborg before I ever heard of Rousey.

But the reality is VERY clear.

The UFC is King and Rousey is it's queen.
Rousey CAN NOT duck anyone.
She faces whom they put in front of her.
She's not real picky either fighting more than most fighters and having beaten all the top contenders.

Cyborg either makes weight or she runs her mouth for the free publicity.
Again, Cyborg has had YEARS to get to 135. She is 5'8" not 6'3" so it is very possible.
It would mean cutting some muscle and losing strength for sure but she could stand to lose the 10 pounds and a little of her silverback physique.
 

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On top of that, most people don't know how to sprawl, so they'd just end up on their back.

I was once a good wrestler before I got old and gained weight!
Now I can just lift a lot of weight and take rest periods, lol.

I'd be like early Anthony Johnson.
 

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Dude, just stop saying stupid things and it won't feel like I am picking on you.
I am not sure Ronda would win if they did fight and was a fan of Cyborg before I ever heard of Rousey.

But the reality is VERY clear.

The UFC is King and Rousey is it's queen.
Rousey CAN NOT duck anyone.
She faces whom they put in front of her.
She's not real picky either fighting more than most fighters and having beaten all the top contenders.

Cyborg either makes weight or she runs her mouth for the free publicity.
Again, Cyborg has had YEARS to get to 135. She is 5'8" not 6'3" so it is very possible.
It would mean cutting some muscle and losing strength for sure but she could stand to lose the 10 pounds and a little of her silverback physique.

You could never pick on me you cretin. Don't ever make that mistake again.
 

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I was once a good wrestler before I got old and gained weight!
Now I can just lift a lot of weight and take rest periods, lol.

I'd be like early Anthony Johnson.

to be clear i mean like high school 175 pound good not like really good or anything, lol.
 

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I do not get why people think Ronda should move up to fight Cyborg and not the other way around
 

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You could never pick on me you cretin. Don't ever make that mistake again.

what did Ronda say? "Don't Cry!"

Anyways you are an Irish kid from the looks of it so we've both probably been hit in the head too much and drank too much.
 

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Dude, just stop saying stupid things and it won't feel like I am picking on you.
I am not sure Ronda would win if they did fight and was a fan of Cyborg before I ever heard of Rousey.

But the reality is VERY clear.

The UFC is King and Rousey is it's queen.
Rousey CAN NOT duck anyone.
She faces whom they put in front of her.
She's not real picky either fighting more than most fighters and having beaten all the top contenders.

Cyborg either makes weight or she runs her mouth for the free publicity.
Again, Cyborg has had YEARS to get to 135. She is 5'8" not 6'3" so it is very possible.
It would mean cutting some muscle and losing strength for sure but she could stand to lose the 10 pounds and a little of her silverback physique.

If she could do easy as you say then why not just get it done for the sake of the biggest pay day of her life? Tito Ortiz has come out and said she is working towards it. As for the silverback comment, she is really not that big.
 
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