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LOL. How exactly do you "run" from somebody by staying where you are as the champion?

Because Cyborg clearly doesn't want the belt and she talks about moving up to fight other fighter but won't move up for Cyborg.

She'll run her stupid mouth about fighting guys but won't fight Cyborg at 140 cause she kept popped for gear years ago.
 

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The talent pool isn't that bad at 135 in the UFC. Tate, Zingano, McMann, Kaufman....these are all top level fighters. Ronda is just several levels above them. She makes the division look like it's thin.

The talent is crap.

Kat and Tate I respect but even those girls aren't super talented.

Rousey is just a big fish in a small pond.

Cyborg vs Rousey would be like Lesnar vs Frank Mir

Rousey might get lucky and pull off a miracle submission but if she doesn't she's just gonna get the hell beat out of her.
 

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She's a disgrace to the sport. A quick visual will tell you she's juicing.


She did at one point but I doubt she does anymore. She fights for Invictus, which is owned by UFC, so I doubt that she isn't getting hard tested.

I'm sure the UFC would love to pop her for gear and get her out of the picture forever so Ronda doesn't have to face her.


Also, Cyborg has said she's willing to do Olympic style testing for a fight.
 

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Well that champ has already said she'd move up to 145 to fight Gina Carano, so she's willing to move up to fight one chick. She just wants to pick a different chick. The chick the champ wants to fight at 145 was already destroyed by Cyborg when she was in her prime and hasn't fought in the years since then.

Ronda also said if Gina wants a title fight then she can have a shot. Meaning at 135.
 

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Ronda also said if Gina wants a title fight then she can have a shot. Meaning at 135.

Ronda said she would go up and fight at 145 for Gina.

Ronda also said she would fight Ali's daughter.

Ronda also said she should fight Mayweather.

BUT RONDA REFUSES TO FIGHT AT 140 for Cyborg.

I miss the days where the best in the world would go out of their way to fight the best in the world at fair weights ( aka catchweights ) .

The days of BJ Penn going up in weight to fight GSP, Machida, etc.

Or days of Rich Franklin fighting catchweight.
 

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So they should make up a new weight class for one person ....... then have the champ of the current womens champion move up to fight one chick.

Brilliant ....

See this mentality is the problem. You are acting like that is the most insane thing you can suggest all the while Rhonda mentions steroids and losing weight in the same breath creating the narrative that the only reason she can't make the weight is because of said steroids. Is making a catch weight really thathe big of a deal?
 

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Sure, that would make sense if Ronda didn't spend so much time talking about Cyborg and how she'd beat her. She's said she'd beat her at 145, if that's the case then go prove it. If not, then shut up about it.

Actually Cyborg is the big talker.
She needs the pub. Ronda does not.

Ronda will tell you she can beat a grizzly bear too, doesn't mean she should go find out.

The UFC makes Ronda's fights.

Nothing else to say except Cyborg has to get in the UFC for the fight to be possible.
The rest is fan boy nonsense.
 

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http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/...g-happens-is-up-to-the-ufc-and-justino-080315

She's a great champion there. The thing is, she's been taunting and verbally challenging Rousey for years, now.

So, it would seem from her talk that "Cyborg" wants the fight with Rousey very badly. She'll have to decide whether or not it's worth it for her to back up her talk with actions, now.

And, the UFC will have to decide what it is willing to do to score a headliner that White said Saturday would sell a record 2.5 million pay-per-views. Either the UFC needs to introduce a 145-pound women's division and install "Cyborg" as the rightful champion, or Justino needs to take a year or so to change her body and come down in weight.

As for Ronda Rousey, she doesn't need to do a thing other than what she already is. If the UFC and "Cyborg" want the "Rowdy" fight so badly, one or both of them needs to give Ronda a reason to take it.
 

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Ronda said she would go up and fight at 145 for Gina.

Ronda also said she would fight Ali's daughter.

Ronda also said she should fight Mayweather.

BUT RONDA REFUSES TO FIGHT AT 140 for Cyborg.

I miss the days where the best in the world would go out of their way to fight the best in the world at fair weights ( aka catchweights ) .

The days of BJ Penn going up in weight to fight GSP, Machida, etc.

Or days of Rich Franklin fighting catchweight.

Which guy did BJ Penn/Franlin or GSP fight that wasn't in the UFC?
This is VERY SIMPLE. Cyborg has to get signed by the UFC.
 

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Actually Cyborg is the big talker.
She needs the pub. Ronda does not.

Ronda will tell you she can beat a grizzly bear too, doesn't mean she should go find out.

The UFC makes Ronda's fights.

Nothing else to say except Cyborg has to get in the UFC for the fight to be possible.
The rest is fan boy nonsense.


Cyborg signed with the UFC in March.
 

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http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/...g-happens-is-up-to-the-ufc-and-justino-080315


As for Ronda Rousey, she doesn't need to do a thing other than what she already is. If the UFC and "Cyborg" want the "Rowdy" fight so badly, one or both of them needs to give Ronda a reason to take it.


Ronda herself has opened her big fat mouth about Cyborg and looks like the scared one for making excuses as to why she avoids her.

The 135 thing is the last hurdle for Cyborg and it's a big one for her.

She is peeled at 145.. She'll be a skeleton at 135.
 

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Cyborg asked for her release because she couldn't make 135 in 2013.
This time her contract says she is only in the UFC is she fights and competes at 135 in Invicta first.

After that, the terms of her UFC contract stipulate that the Brazilian must first make the 135-pound bantamweight title weight limit and compete at that class in InvictaFC. If Justino does that, and presumably wins, she would then get to fight in the UFC.

All that likely would take us into 2016. For the fight to happen then, Rousey and Justino must continue to win, and Justino must make and compete at a weight she previously has said might endanger her life.
 

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it's a pretty bad look when you don't understand or read what you link.

the article is precisely where I got the quote:
After that, the terms of her UFC contract stipulate that the Brazilian must first make the 135-pound bantamweight title weight limit and compete at that class in InvictaFC. If Justino does that, and presumably wins, she would then get to fight in the UFC.

SOOOO, NO, Cyborg is NOT in the UFC. She has a contract with Zuffa that gives her an avenue to the UFC if she chooses to follow it.
 

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it's a pretty bad look when you don't understand or read what you link.

the article is precisely where I got the quote:
After that, the terms of her UFC contract stipulate that the Brazilian must first make the 135-pound bantamweight title weight limit and compete at that class in InvictaFC. If Justino does that, and presumably wins, she would then get to fight in the UFC.

SOOOO, NO, Cyborg is NOT in the UFC. She has a contract with Zuffa that gives her an avenue to the UFC if she chooses to follow it.


I stand by my comment that she is indeed signed with the UFC.

Yes, she does have to fight and win at Invicta at 135 but she Signed on the dotted line with the UFC.
 

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It would be nice to see Ronda fight another big fish.

Especially considering she wasn't even the big fish in her judo pond originally.
 

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Just curious but did you watch the season of ultimate fighter between Tate and Rousey?

Yeah most of it.

I don't watch all of those shows anymore. That was the last season of it that I bothered to watch much of.

Yes I realize she's a hated person cause of her attitude or what have you. To each their own.
 

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Cyborg has been off of roids for quite a while, stop pretending like she is. She competes with invicta which is tied with the UFC. UFC wouldn't have close ties with an organization that wouldn't drug test. Cyborg has not taken roids for a while now, get over it.

Cyborg cannot make 135 because of her muscular frame. It is physically impossible and dangerous to her health and body type to go down to 135.

***Ronda on the other hand (who runs her mouth at cyborg just as much as cyborg tries to hype this fight by the way) , has competed at 145 and 150 for most of her life in Judo*** So how come she can't fight cyborg at even 140?

Ronda is doing everything she can to not Cyborg.

Remember when Ronda wanted to go up in weight to 145 to fight Gina Carano? Ha.

Ronda also says she would fight floyd. Ronda also has said she would fight Ali's daughter.

....but she won't fight Cyborg at nothing other than 135 *rolls eyes*

If I named every fighter that popped for roids once in their life, your list of fighters to choose from to support would be very,very thin.

Awww poor boy. Your panties in a bunch?

You can defend your roid freak to the last breath. I give her ZERO benefit of the doubt because she deserves ZERO benefit of the doubt.

I don't care if she's working for someone who is tied with Zuffa. As you pointed out lots of fighters have popped for Roids. Every single one of them who gets caught loses all respect from me.

Period.

And now here is the very simple fact. Ronda is the 135 champ.

She doesn't have to go up weights to accommodate people who don't deserve it. It's that simple.

If Cyborg hadn't been a known roid user for years, and years, then I'd imagine she would get a lot more her way. The champ would likely accommodate her if she wasn't a dirty cheat.

But she is a dirty cheat.

And I don't buy, in the least, that the final 5 pounds is a health risk for her. That's crap. The simple fact is she can't do it because she's roided for so long, and yeah probably still does despite her claims.

Everyone else can give the noted cheater the benefit of the doubt but I simply will not. She has earned ZERO trust.
 

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Pretty sure Cyborg doesn't want the belt. She just wants to fight Rousey.

I doubt she would ever want to have to fight at 135 again after fighting Rousey.

Cyborg is trying to make this happen for the fans.

If Rousey was as tough as she claims she would just accept the 140 catch. Instead she'll just challenge men..

Yeah shame on Ronda.

She won't do what the noted cheater wants cause the cheater can't make weight due to all her cheating.

And she won't want to fight at 135 again because she's going to lose when she has to cut muscle mass from her years of roid use.
 
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