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Larry Allen is currently enroute to Irving to take care of Vanderjagt...
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[Parche]

Well, cant blame L.A. For that...


I cant believe he missed both kicks tonight... I guess Madden is right, there arent easy kicks, there are only shorts and long ones...

 

[peplaw06]

Vandergajt is hurt, I cannot argue about his credentials. However, your basis of argument has no merit. Vandergajt was unable to make those kicks because he was physically unable to do so. He might not be ready for the season opener. Dallas needs to put him on the PUP and let Suisham handle the kicking duties. Six Weeks from now then they can make a decision on him. If he still can't kick a chip shot in six weeks, then he is most likely done.

What do you mean he was physically unable to make them?? He got the kicks in the air right? He missed the two combined probably by 5 feet AT THE MOST... He had the distance. He also made 65 of 71 on sunday. Spags said he was making them confortably from 45 in warmups. He can do it physically. It's all mental for him.

 

[BigDFan5]

Actually HE DID call Parcells before he signed his contract in Indy.

Not that I doubt you but you have a link I never seen that anywhere.

 

[Route 66]

I think we can get Septien back for a season.

 

[Death Star]

Now I'll agree that Vandy had a truly crappy performance, but one thing I kept noticing tonight is that whenever he kicked, his kicking motion looked jacked up. Like he wouldn't fully extend his leg on the kick.

I think one of 2 things is going on. Either he is still injured and kicked anyway but with limited motion, or he is fine but is adjusting the motion to try and prevent reaggrevating it. Either way, it didn't look right, and I think it was a contributing factor.

Ultimately, this is preseason, so I really don't care how he kicked until he starts missing in regular season. From what I've seen so far from Suisham, I just don't trust the kid to put it through the uprights in regular season. Every field goal I see him make just barely eeks in, regardless of distance. I think he's got a big leg and a little luck, and I don't see it holding out, especially given his current lack of experience.

 

[Rack]

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And while we're at it, might as well send Billy Cundiff here...

 

[Smith22]

Sunday he made 65 out of 71 kicks. 92%

And before that day, all that was reported was he couldn't make a kick and hadn't kicked off much. Ignore it if you wish. He kicked off to the 12 yardline tonight and missed 2 chip shot FG's with BP breathing down his neck. No pressure my arse.

 

[neosapien23]

for like the 7,000th time this offseason Vanderjagt is not eligible for the PUP. Nobody on our team is eligible for the pup

Calm down. It was just a suggestion. And for the 7,000th time could you please explain why he isn't avialable for the PUP. I honeslty thought that was an option. If he is unable to kick well because of a groin injury, shouldn't he be able to put on the list? Why is this not an option?

 

[DallasCowboysRule!]

:laugh2:

 

[StevenOtero]

Oh burn.

 

[Rack]

Not that I doubt you but you have a link I never seen that anywhere.

Go ahead and do a search. I'm not about to do it. I have to go to work anyway.


It was reported at the time he signed, surprised you don't remember it.


I could be thinking of McGinest though. But I'm pretty sure they both called Parcells before signing their contracts.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

Actually HE DID call Parcells before he signed his contract in Indy.

It's useless to argue with them. Some folks have to defend "scratch your head decisions" until their dying breath, before admitting they're wrong. Let's see, position that cost us 3 games last year? Kicker. Most clutch kicker in FG history? Available? History with Bill? Yes. Cap room? Yes. No brainer.

 

[t.o.boys81]

Get real!

 

[BigDFan5]

Calm down. It was just a suggestion. And for the 7,000th time could you please explain why he isn't avialable for the PUP. I honeslty thought that was an option. If he is unable to kick well because of a groin injury, shouldn't he be able to put on the list? Why is this not an option?

No offense to you, just seen this said thousands of times.


The PUP list is for players who were not able to pass a camp opening physical. once the player practiced 1 time they were no longer eligible for the PUP

Once on the pup they could be removed (Like Flo was) or placed on inactive PUP in which they have to remain until week 6 at the ealiest

but to answer the question since he practiced he is not eligible

 

[peplaw06]

And before that day, all that was reported was he couldn't make a kick and hadn't kicked off much. Ignore it if you wish. He kicked off to the 12 yardline tonight and missed 2 chip shot FG's with BP breathing down his neck. No pressure my arse.

THIS GAME DIDN'T MATTER!!! Where's the pressure?? He knows BP's not gonna cut him. Unlike most of the lemmings running around here. Tomorrow morning we're in first place... 0-0. Save your melodramatic head explosions for when it means something.

 

[neosapien23]

What do you mean he was physically unable to make them?? He got the kicks in the air right? He missed the two combined probably by 5 feet AT THE MOST... He had the distance. He also made 65 of 71 on sunday. Spags said he was making them confortably from 45 in warmups. He can do it physically. It's all mental for him.

Spagnola said it best when he stated that Vandergajt was trying to compensate for his groin by pushing his kick. He wasn't able to follow through like he should.

 

[BigDFan5]

Go ahead and do a search. I'm not about to do it. I have to go to work anyway.


It was reported at the time he signed, surprised you don't remember it.


I could be thinking of McGinest though. But I'm pretty sure they both called Parcells before signing their contracts.

Now McGinnest I know did call before signing the contract.

Are you sure you arent remembering the story where Vin called and asked parcells what to do and Parcells told him to stay in New England?

 

[Paniolo22]

Are you talking about Vinatieri with the broken left foot?

 

[Smith22]

THIS GAME DIDN'T MATTER!!! Where's the pressure?? He knows BP's not gonna cut him. Unlike most of the lemmings running around here. Tomorrow morning we're in first place... 0-0. Save your melodramatic head explosions for when it means something.

I said it myself earlier we aren't cutting him. I'm just not like you and burying my head in the sand and pretending none of it is happening. That's the difference. I'm done.:bang2: