Update: Texas Dad Beats His Daughter’s Molester to Death *Post 286*

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Hostile;4592329 said:
I have an older half brother who is dangerous. He got involved in martial arts at the age of 5 and putting it mildly he is good at it.

When he was 17 but almost 18 a man raped our cousin. She was 13 at the time.

He beat that guy to within an inch of his life. I mean it was brutal from all reports I ever heard.

The DA knew a jury wouldn't convict him so the judge ordered him to join the military. Within 3 weeks of his time in Basic he was the martial arts instructor for his Camp.

He and I do not get along most of the time, but I have to say I always admired that he did that.

That father is within his rights and I would never bat an eye to him going free. Good. The monster can't do it to another child, and he probably had.
Good for him hos...I hope the perp is still feeling the effects of the well deserved beating and is still doing time as well
 

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Hoofbite;4592320 said:
Unless he beat the guy postmortem, I'm thinking that's what he did.

I never understood why that makes a lick of difference, you hit a guy and his life is ended, you hit him again and that is worse? he is already dead, you can't kill him again. how is it excessive at the point when he is lifeless? in this guys case i'd call it therapy.

but even in murder cases, if a woman stabs her husband in the heart the first time, he is dead, what does it matter if she stabs him 37 more times? the guy is dead, she wasn't hurting him anymore, 1 stab, 37 stabs, the guy is dead, at that point nothing matters
 

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If you see someone hurting your child you put a stop to it. The guy beat the other guy to death. That takes time. He may well get off but he will and should be charged.
 

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Kingsmith88;4592352 said:
If you see someone hurting your child you put a stop to it. The guy beat the other guy to death. That takes time. He may well get off but he will and should be charged.

not necessarily
 

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rkell87;4592354 said:
not necessarily

Generally speaking it does. When I read beaten to death, I think it means he was continuously hit until he succumbed to his injuries. I doubt he one or two punch killed the guy, but I don't know that.
 

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Kingsmith88;4592352 said:
If you see someone hurting your child you put a stop to it. The guy beat the other guy to death. That takes time. He may well get off but he will and should be charged.
In the heat of the moment all you are seeing is that someone is hurting your little girl...at that time the ONLY thing that matters is your little girls safety....it's easy to say when reading about it but when it's YOUR little girl and you see it, it's a bit different
 

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All it would take is the right hit or a blow against a post or using a blunt object. It didn't necessarily take much time.
 

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cowboy_ron;4592373 said:
In the heat of the moment all you are seeing is that someone is hurting your little girl...at that time the ONLY thing that matters is your little girls safety....it's easy to say when reading about it but when it's YOUR little girl and you see it, it's a bit different

I agree stop it, but continually beating someone until they are dead???? Not sure that is justifiable.
 

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speedkilz88;4592374 said:
All it would take is the right hit or a blow against a post or using a blunt object. It didn't necessarily take much time.

That isn't what we are being told. We are being told he was beaten to death. To me that means a sustained beating. Again I don't know for sure, but if the guy beat him for a period of time until he dead. I believe he should be charged. He could have stopped at any point before the guy died and his daughter would have been safe. One punch would have done that. If it happened as you theorized that is different.
 

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Kingsmith88;4592379 said:
I agree stop it, but continually beating someone until they are dead???? Not sure that is justifiable.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this topic...IMO a good pedophile is a dead one
 

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Kingsmith88;4592364 said:
Generally speaking it does. When I read beaten to death, I think it means he was continuously hit until he succumbed to his injuries. I doubt he one or two punch killed the guy, but I don't know that.

Kingsmith88;4592379 said:
I agree stop it, but continually beating someone until they are dead???? Not sure that is justifiable.

how long is 'continually beating'? more than a minute? i think you could get in 20-25 full force strikes in about a minute, probably guy is knocked out by the 5th or 6th blow, by blow 8 he has a concussion and broken face, by blow 11 his brain starts to swell, also at this point his nose is for sure broken making it hard to breath and is probably swallowing some blood in his mouth. Someone could easily die at this point if not treated immediately, more blows increase the likelihood of his death and that all could happen in about 30 seconds.
 

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Kingsmith88;4592382 said:
That isn't what we are being told. We are being told he was beaten to death. To me that means a sustained beating. Again I don't know for sure, but if the guy beat him for a period of time until he dead. I believe he should be charged. He could have stopped at any point before the guy died and his daughter would have been safe. One punch would have done that. If it happened as you theorized that is different.

that is how I interpreted it too, not just one punch to get him off her (assuming he was molesting her), beating to death implies more than one and likely several shots.

If it were just one punch, likely the story would be, father punches guy allegedly molesting his daughter, and kills him".

Beating to death seems to imply more.
 
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Hostile;4592329 said:
I have an older half brother who is dangerous. He got involved in martial arts at the age of 5 and putting it mildly he is good at it.

When he was 17 but almost 18 a man raped our cousin. She was 13 at the time.

He beat that guy to within an inch of his life. I mean it was brutal from all reports I ever heard.

The DA knew a jury wouldn't convict him so the judge ordered him to join the military. Within 3 weeks of his time in Basic he was the martial arts instructor for his Camp.

He and I do not get along most of the time, but I have to say I always admired that he did that.

That father is within his rights and I would never bat an eye to him going free. Good. The monster can't do it to another child, and he probably had.
Always love your posts, but I think someone might have told you a story about your cousin.

They don't teach martial arts in basic training at all. I question the validity of him being ordered by a judge to join the service as well. Maybe someone else has that experience, but having served almost 20 years in the military I can honestly say I have not heard instances of either happening.
 

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speedkilz88;4592374 said:
All it would take is the right hit or a blow against a post or using a blunt object. It didn't necessarily take much time.

When I first heard the story I was told he got hit and then hit his head off something killing him. Clearly that was the case though.

I just saw in the news that a childhood friend was at a club and punch someone in the face. He hit his head off a curb killing him. Now he is being charged with manslaughter.
 

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DrKennethNoisewater;4592396 said:
Always love your posts, but I think someone might have told you a story about your cousin.

They don't teach martial arts in basic training at all. I question the validity of him being ordered by a judge to join the service as well. Maybe someone else has that experience, but having served almost 20 years in the military I can honestly say I have not heard instances of either happening.
That was pretty common during Vietnam...they were often given the option to join to avoid a prison sentence.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4592390 said:
that is how I interpreted it too, not just one punch to get him off her (assuming he was molesting her), beating to death implies more than one and likely several shots.

If it were just one punch, likely the story would be, father punches guy allegedly molesting his daughter, and kills him".

Beating to death seems to imply more.


What would you do if you were the father in that situation?
 
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cowboy_ron;4592400 said:
That was pretty common during Vietnam...they were often given the option to join to avoid a prison sentence.
OK, I'll defer to the experts on the matter...I just had never heard of that before.
 

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DrKennethNoisewater;4592405 said:
OK, I'll defer to the experts on the matter...I just had never heard of that before.
Yea, I know that to be a fact..that was my era and one tour in Nam.
 

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DrKennethNoisewater;4592396 said:
Always love your posts, but I think someone might have told you a story about your cousin.

They don't teach martial arts in basic training at all. I question the validity of him being ordered by a judge to join the service as well. Maybe someone else has that experience, but having served almost 20 years in the military I can honestly say I have not heard instances of either happening.

I was in during Vietnam and I hated the guys who were ordered into the Marines. Many. They were almost always bad apples. I beat the crap out of one.

Some are technically correct in you may only use justifiable force but this guy will not be found guilty. I just hope his family doesn't sue him.
 

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jobberone;4592412 said:
I was in during Vietnam and I hated the guys who were ordered into the Marines. Many. They were almost always bad apples. I beat the crap out of one.

Some are technically correct in you may only use justifiable force but this guy will not be found guilty. I just hope his family doesn't sue him.
Were you in Nam jobber?
 
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