Update: Texas Dad Beats His Daughter’s Molester to Death *Post 286*

[casmith07]

As abhorrent a crime as child molestation is, the guy should be charged with manslaughter.

We have a justice system for a reason. Vigilante justice is not how we handle crime in this country.

I'll say this though, I'd defend him in his criminal court proceedings. Easy win - heat of passion defense. He'll walk.

 

[casmith07]

The Army, particularly the Rangers, called them combatives. They are also abbreviated HTH or H2H for hand to hand combat. It is a form of martial arts.

It never ceases to amaze me the lengths some will go to.

MACP - Modern Army Combatives Program.

It's basically MMA/UFC style fighting.

 

[Kingsmith88]

Do you honestly think the father was wrong? He shouldn't be charged. He should be thanked for getting rid of the lowest form of humanity. With our screwed up justice system, the molester may have been able to sue the father for damages if he had survived the beating. The molester's actions may cause emotional damage for the rest of the girl's life. The molester got off easy considering the nature of the crime. I am glad Texas has laws to protect the father in this situation.

Wrong for saving his daughter no. Wrong for killing the man, it depends. If he beat the man to death, i.e. hit him repeatedly until he was dead then yes. If he hit him once or twice to stop the assault and the man had something wrong with him or hit his head on something and died no. It would be accidental in the second situation. In the first situation I think he should be charged, however, I don't think he would see any jail time. He may not even be convicted. The case is going to the grand jury, so there will be an investigation. He isn't necessarily walking away Scott free

 

[jobberone]

They absolutely do. What they don't do is teach martial arts during basic training.

But, back to topic. If this guy is indicted, I'd hope he walks. Seeing his daughter going through this had to be a terrible thing for his mind to comprehend. I don't blame him a bit.

I got some training which wasn't in any way called martial arts but there was some jujitsu moves and hand to hand combat along with bayonet and blade work. And I've never heard or seen a basic or advanced trainee teach anything but I'm not going to say it couldn't or didn't happen. I got to help some other 'privates' with the rifle.

 

[rkell87]

I got some training which wasn't in any way called martial arts but there was some jujitsu moves and hand to hand combat along with bayonet and blade work. And I've never heard or seen a basic or advanced trainee teach anything but I'm not going to say it couldn't or didn't happen. I got to help some other 'privates' with the rifle.

that's what she said

 

[cowboy_ron]

As abhorrent a crime as child molestation is, the guy should be charged with manslaughter.

We have a justice system for a reason. Vigilante justice is not how we handle crime in this country.

I'll say this though, I'd defend him in his criminal court proceedings. Easy win - heat of passion defense. He'll walk.

But cas..put yourself in his shoes..how would you have handled it...remember he is molesting YOUR daughter when you walk in....I admit in my younger days I was a quick tempered ready to fight at the drop of a hat, so I can't honestly say that what this father did isn't any different than the way I would have handled it

 

[jobberone]

that's what she said

:laugh1:. Ok, I guess I walked into that one.

 

[jnday]

Years ago there was a situation in which a man raped an 8 year old girl and he was let go due to an error by the deputies when arresting him. It was no secret that he was guilty. The men of our community got together and burned him out. They torched his house and made sure that there was nothing left. It wasn't a secret who set the fire. One of my best friends worked with law enforcement and he told me that very little effort was made to bring the guilty parties to justice. The child molester was warned to leave the area and after the fire, he took the advice. There are cases that vigilante justice is needed. I respected the men of the community that took care of the problem. This happened about thirty years ago. With the modern laws, the child molester would have stayed in the community and may have molested again. I guess I'm an old school kind of guy when it comes to these kind of things. I sure miss the times when men were allowed to tare care of matters that the law couldn't.

 

[DFWJC]

Even though he did commit murder and we need to bring a foot down on vigilante justice, you are right, he won't be convicted.

It's a hard one for the Prosecutor though, he has to charge him simply because if he doesn't then vigilantes will be all over the place.

I usually lay low on your comments, but sometimes you are bit predictable CCF.

IF the the med exams prove to be true regarding baby rape, this dad was well within his rights to save his daughter. This was not after-the -fact, this was during the act. This is one case were I would kill on site.

 

[Hoofbite]

As abhorrent a crime as child molestation is, the guy should be charged with manslaughter.

We have a justice system for a reason. Vigilante justice is not how we handle crime in this country.

I'll say this though, I'd defend him in his criminal court proceedings. Easy win - heat of passion defense. He'll walk.

Give me "vigilante justice" any day of the week over systematic injustice, which is far too common under the current system we have.

This isn't even a case of "vigilante justice". It's not some random guy who's out trying to fight crime like he's a superhero. This is a guy who witnessed his daughter being molested and stopped the guy in the act.

 

[StevenOtero]

As abhorrent a crime as child molestation is, the guy should be charged with manslaughter.

We have a justice system for a reason. Vigilante justice is not how we handle crime in this country.

I'll say this though, I'd defend him in his criminal court proceedings. Easy win - heat of passion defense. He'll walk.

Ugh...

 

[StevenOtero]

Years ago there was a situation in which a man raped an 8 year old girl and he was let go due to an error by the deputies when arresting him. It was no secret that he was guilty. The men of our community got together and burned him out. They torched his house and made sure that there was nothing left. It wasn't a secret who set the fire. One of my best friends worked with law enforcement and he told me that very little effort was made to bring the guilty parties to justice. The child molester was warned to leave the area and after the fire, he took the advice. There are cases that vigilante justice is needed. I respected the men of the community that took care of the problem. This happened about thirty years ago. With the modern laws, the child molester would have stayed in the community and may have molested again. I guess I'm an old school kind of guy when it comes to these kind of things. I sure miss the times when men were allowed to tare care of matters that the law couldn't.

 

[zrinkill]

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This Country needs these guys to be real.

 

[Dodger]

I'd have done the same thing...except the coroner would have had to pull several .45 hollow points out of his body.

And I wouldn't care if they prosecuted me.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

As abhorrent a crime as child molestation is, the guy should be charged with manslaughter.

We have a justice system for a reason. Vigilante justice is not how we handle crime in this country.

I'll say this though, I'd defend him in his criminal court proceedings. Easy win - heat of passion defense. He'll walk.

This. I fully understand why he killed him, but at the same time you cannot take the law into your own hands.

 

[Lonestar94]

There is no death too slow and no torture too merciless for a man that will steal a child's innocence.

Prayers for that girl and her family, and kudos to the Dad for insuring that waste of a human life never gets to hide behind a broken system that releases him to do it again as he claims to have an "illness" that causes him to do such.

I'll be the first in line to write a check, should he need it for a defense attorney.

 

[StevenOtero]

This. I fully understand why he killed him, but at the same time you cannot take the law into your own hands.

Lordy, lordy, lordy.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Lordy, lordy, lordy.

I'm guessing you disagree with me and I have no problem with that. If I was a father I'd probably have a different opinion, but I'm not.

 

[jnday]

I'm guessing you disagree with me and I have no problem with that. If I was a father I'd probably have a different opinion, but I'm not.

It is not just a matter of excusing the father. I would excuse anybody that killed a molester that was caught in the act. Child molestation is the single worst act that a man can do. It is evil to the core. A person that can do such a thing is subhuman. I feel the same way about child abuse. A molester can't be cured, so it's not like a stint in rehab will cure them. The death penalty is the only cure, but some of our fine judges and lawmakers don't see it that way. There is simply no defense for doing such a thing.

 

[RastaRocket]

It is not just a matter of excusing the father. I would excuse anybody that killed a molester that was caught in the act. Child molestation is the single worst act that a man can do. It is evil to the core. A person that can do such a thing is subhuman. I feel the same way about child abuse. A molester can't be cured, so it's not like a stint in rehab will cure them. The death penalty is the only cure, but some of our fine judges and lawmakers don't see it that way. There is simply no defense for doing such a thing.

I wish somebody did the same to Sandusky, or at least castrated him.