Vince Young or Tony Romo?

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Anybody who is die-hard longhorn fan knew that all the doubters about Vince Young were going to be wrong.
Young's wonderlic score.
Young's throwing motion.
Young will not be able to run like he did in college...yada,yada,yada.
Young has proved everyone wrong.
I like both VY and Romo.
The only thing is though that you have to build an offense around Vince Young and his unique skills. You can't expect to plug Vince into any type of offense and be great.
Also with him running as much as he does will he be susceptible to injury more than a traditional type qb?
I am so glad the Cowboys got to play against Vince in his first game and not now.
Vince Young may be the most feared player by NFL defenses now, with Brady and Peyton Manning being considered also. But Brady and Manning work in a stuctured offfensive system while VY can kill you when plays break down.
Romo has a little of Brady and VY skills set. He is very mobile and can throw on time and in the pocket very well now. I also think Romo goes thru his reads much quicker than he did last year and is much further along than Vince Young is in that area.
I like both qb's but for now I am happy with Romo.
 

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I've been high on Romo since 03 when the Quincy/Hutch debates were the norm; I see no reason to switch ponies now.

If VY gets a WR or two, he may put up some good numbers and having a QB guru in Chow doesn't hurt, but I prefer my QB to move around in the pocket and find the open WR who gets paid to catch and run with the ball.
 

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Da Hammer;1675833 said:
And everytime i hear somebody compare Vince to Vick they show they have absolutely no knowledge about anything. the only comparison between them is that they are both black and have the ability to run or well had in Vicks case. Vince Young is a QB that is able to run while Vick was a runner that played QB. absoulte no comparison between the 2! so PLEASE STOP COMPARING THEM!!!

I soooo agree with this. He is making it a point to be a passer first and is getting better at it all the time. Having the fabulous ability to run in his hip pocket when he needs to is icing on the cake. Running/scrambling QBs have won championships before, but only after they learned to be pocket passers first and saved the running for occasions that called for it.

Biggems;1675854 said:
well it is good to see that you actually watch Vince Young, NOT........He is not a running QB. If you have watched him at all this year, he doesn't run. He dances around the pocket looking for open receivers, and then at the last minute he runs.

Vince doesn't just take the ball and look to run like the Canine Assassin. Vince is a pass first, pocket QB, who if need be, can run and scramble like a RB.


This is more true this year. Last year when things would break down he would take off. But I watched him last week and he hung in there longer. I saw one play where it looked like he started to run but was looking down field, saw a receiver, and threw the ball. Vick would have just run.

I wouldn't trade Romo for VY, I like the enthusiastic attitude and he just makes the game fun to watch. I think he has a rare ability to see how the play and the defensive coverage is going to "morph" during the play. His feel for pocket pressure is uncanny too.

However, I think VY is going to be a top 5 QB in the not too distant future. He is improving by leaps and bounds in his passing rating and completions %. He is making a concerted effort to learn his craft as a QB and he, in addition, has the best ability to run of any currently active QB in the league.
 

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Biggems;1675854 said:
well it is good to see that you actually watch Vince Young, NOT........He is not a running QB. If you have watched him at all this year, he doesn't run. He dances around the pocket looking for open receivers, and then at the last minute he runs.

Vince doesn't just take the ball and look to run like the Canine Assassin. Vince is a pass first, pocket QB, who if need be, can run and scramble like a RB.

I will give you that he is improving as a passer, but if he weren't such a good runner he would be a below average quarterback. He's not very accurate (53% completion for his career) and his career 69 qb rating is not any good either. If you saw him at the end of the Colts-Titans game, on 4th down he was looking to run the whole time. The Colts knew that and contained him, and he had no shot at the first down. Vince Young is a good quarterback, but he is no great pocket passer. (At least yet)
 

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MCowboys;1675925 said:
I will give you that he is improving as a passer, but if he weren't such a good runner he would be a below average quarterback. He's not very accurate (53% completion for his career) and his career 69 qb rating is not any good either. If you saw him at the end of the Colts-Titans game, on 4th down he was looking to run the whole time. The Colts knew that and contained him, and he had no shot at the first down. Vince Young is a good quarterback, but he is no great pocket passer. (At least yet)

hard to own a high completion percentage when your WRs and TEs consistently drop quality passes. As far as accuracy goes, Vince will never be confused with Aikman or Montana....however, he is a lot better than his numbers. I am so glad Bennett is gone. I saw 2 games last year where Bennett dropped 3 passes in each game that hit him right in the hands. Vince isn't always the most accurate thrower, but he puts it in the vacinity of the receiver.....the problem has been, when he is actually accurate, they drop the freakin pass.
 

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VY is a great athlete that plays quarterback.

Romo is a QB that is also an athlete.

You have to a QB first.

This is not a fair comparison.

If we have seen the Titans full playbook, its either a pamphlet or VY is a remedial reader.
 

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cowboys19;1675656 said:
Who do you like better, and who do you think is going to end up better when their careers are over?

I ask this because i know alot of you are Longhorn fans, and VY fans as well.


VY is the more serious player, while Tony Romo is the more goofball, but both have great work ethics, who strive to be the best they can be!
THis is not even a serious question for me.

Romo has everything to be great...Vince Young doesnt.

POtential wise Romo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Young, not even close.
 

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DallasDomination;1675944 said:
THis is not even a serious question for me.

Romo has everything to be great...Vince Young doesnt.

POtential wise Romo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Young, not even close.[/quote]

WRONG.......
 

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coblue;1675939 said:
VY is a great athlete that plays quarterback.

Romo is a QB that is also an athlete.

You have to a QB first.

This is not a fair comparison.

If we have seen the Titans full playbook, its either a pamphlet or VY is a remedial reader.


Vince is a QB that is also a great athlete.......he has been a QB since HS. He has consistently found ways to pick apart opposing defenses with his head, arm, and legs....yet people continuously try to discredit the man.

Honestly this has become tiresome and lame, all the people who cannot come to grips with the fact that Vince is a very solid and successful QB.

QB = leader and field general of the offense and team as a whole......Vince = QB.
 

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this is like asking what would you rather have done to you:

being buried up to your neck and being run over by a tractor mower or........

relaxing on the beach with a brunette on one side and a green eyed redhead on the other.
 

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Biggems;1675950 said:
Vince is a QB that is also a great athlete.......he has been a QB since HS. He has consistently found ways to pick apart opposing defenses with his head, arm, and legs....yet people continuously try to discredit the man.

Honestly this has become tiresome and lame, all the people who cannot come to grips with the fact that Vince is a very solid and successful QB.

QB = leader and field general of the offense and team as a whole......Vince = QB.

YOU must be a Texas Fan or something because I just dont see how you can disagree with my comment.
 

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I don't think this is too fair to compare now... I like both, but Romo has an insane amount of weapons at the skill positions whereas Vince is stuck with young guys/mediocre players at WR, RB, TE. The only thing that you can say is about equal are the olines but even then... Dallas could have a better one too. Once Tennessee starts picking up proven players/high draft picks to aid VY then we can see if he's really a great QB or not. It really sucks being a QB when you have receivers that rarely ever get any separation. One thing is for sure though, he just finds ways to win. Pretty much any other QB in the league would suffer miserably running that offense imo.
 

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They are the top 2 young QBs to me by far.

I wouldn't rather have anyone else than Romo. Payton and Brady may be better but they are also older and already on the extreme salary plan.

VY is the best leader I have ever witnessed though. He has won at every level.
Its not a coincidence UT won a title with him at QB. And it's no coincidence the Titans have been competitive with and next to no overall talent.
 

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DallasDomination;1675944 said:
THis is not even a serious question for me.

Romo has everything to be great...Vince Young doesnt.

POtential wise Romo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Young, not even close.
That analysis is not even close.
Young was the best player in his draft.
Bush has not even proved to be a premiere rb in this league and Vince Young is already leading his team into a playoff hunt.
Young's record is 10-5.
Romo will match that record this Sunday.
 

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DallasDomination;1675966 said:
YOU must be a Texas Fan or something because I just dont see how you can disagree with my comment.

I'd disagree with the potential portion.

VY is bigger, faster and has at least as strong of an arm.

BUT, Romo has 4 years of experience, reads the field amazingly and can just flat out play.

VY has a very high ceiling but Romo is definitely playing at a higher level right now, IMHO. While I do agree the playbooks are hard to compare considering what the skills positions offers for the Titans but there really isn't any throw Romo can't make and he can give you a little VY magic along the way.
 

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J-DOG;1675985 said:
That analysis is not even close.
Young was the best player in his draft.
Bush has not even proved to be a premiere rb in this league and Vince Young is already leading his team into a playoff hunt.
Young's record is 10-5.
Romo will match that record this Sunday.

Young is 10-6
 

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jterrell;1675984 said:
They are the top 2 young QBs to me by far.

I wouldn't rather have anyone else than Romo. Payton and Brady may be better but they are also older and already on the extreme salary plan.

VY is the best leader I have ever witnessed though. He has won at every level.
Its not a coincidence UT won a title with him at QB. And it's no coincidence the Titans have been competitive with and next to no overall talent.
Yeah, their running game and defense destroying the Saints offense had nothing to do with that win on Monday.

Young threw 6 passes in the 2nd half and they scored 21 points. Why? Field position off of turnovers and their running game.

People are too willing to give the QB credit (or blame) for the W/L ratio.
 

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i hate to be against Romo but if u really think about it, VY...Romo is a great quarterback dont get me wrong but if u look at who surrounds Romo there is nothing but great players! T.O., Terry Glenn, Jason Witten, 1-2 punch with Jones&Barber, and a line that provides time for him. VY has a bunch of nobody WR's and Ben Troupe. not to mention his O-line always has him on the run.VY can make plays with his arm and his feet. Romo is doing better but look at his suppourting cast! Think About It...:rolleyes:
 

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Biggems;1675938 said:
hard to own a high completion percentage when your WRs and TEs consistently drop quality passes. As far as accuracy goes, Vince will never be confused with Aikman or Montana....however, he is a lot better than his numbers. I am so glad Bennett is gone. I saw 2 games last year where Bennett dropped 3 passes in each game that hit him right in the hands. Vince isn't always the most accurate thrower, but he puts it in the vacinity of the receiver.....the problem has been, when he is actually accurate, they drop the freakin pass.


Come'on don't make excuses...


Vince Young is a decent QB at this point who should get better but if you think he's going to be a consistent 60% completion guy then you're nuts.
 
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