Vince Young or Tony Romo?

[MichaelWinicki]

What makes you think think Young can't read defenses? He's smarter than people seem to give him credit for. Not only that he seems like he can read and manipulate people.

I never said Vince Young couldn't read defenses.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Jeff Fischer was in a interview the other day and said VY's ability to grasp and execute the offense was incredible. He said that they didn't run any limited packages and still VY retained nearly everything. Romo is clearly the man but he has been groomed for 4 years to get to this point. It seems that you are clearly selling VY short. Take Romo at exactly the same point in his development and make him a starter no way he's any where near the caliber of VY at this point.

What do you think Fisher was going to say?

 

[JPostSam]

This is a joke, right?

:signmast:

 

[Aikbach]

Vince Young once embarrassed me in the high school playoffs, I've never played against Tony Romo but I'll bet Tony is a better conversationalist than ol' Vince ever was.

 

[dogunwo]

VY is a great athlete that plays quarterback.

Romo is a QB that is also an athlete.

You have to a QB first.

This is not a fair comparison.

If we have seen the Titans full playbook, its either a pamphlet or VY is a remedial reader.

Yeah, because you definitely have experience and are an expert at reading, understanding, or even seeing an NFL playbook.............

 

[5Stars]

I've been reading all the responses on this subject and I have come to the answer that, yes, I would love to have VY on the Cowboys team...so he can wash Romo's car everyday!

 

[BHendri5]

What makes you think think Young can't read defenses? He's smarter than people seem to give him credit for. Not only that he seems like he can read and manipulate people.

VY, has not has not gotten the reading of defenses down yet, the reason I say yet, is because I am giving him the benefit of the doubt and that he can learn to read defenses eventually.

Oh, another tidbit about VY's intelligence, first I want to say this everyone has some form of intelligence. I was having a debate with some fellows and one of those fellows wife, they love VY, and they believe VY is better than Romo. When I brought up the reading of defenses and how UT had to change the offense for VY and that He is not working with the full playbook at Tennessee, they told me the copuple told me that their son who's in finishing up his degree, told them that the fans love VY, but they always say that VY is not that smart.

May I suggest that he seems to you can read defenses and manipulate people, because you want to believe he can, because you like UT and VY?

I talk to a lot of people all the time that love VY, so anytime the Titans when they give all the credit to VY, his defense, the defense that always sets his offense up never get any credit. That is why Keith Bullock said that Vy is not the only player on their team.

 

[BHendri5]

i am probably the biggest VY fan on this board. seen him go through his career i think that VY has the clear advantage of leadership over Romo. and that is NOT a knock on Romo because he is a very good leader himself. But Vince has something about him that just inspires confidence to his teammates eveywhere he plays. he is the type of leader that the all-time greats in all sports have. he makes all players around him better!

Romo has the edge in accuracy although Vince gets better every year. Romo right now is just great at putting the ball where it needs to be to get his receivers extra yards while Vince is still improving in that area. Vince has the edge in arm strenght although Romo has a much better arm that people give him credit for! Both are tremendous playmakers at making something out of absolutely nothing. 2 of the best in the game at that!

Its honestly a tough one! in the next 2 years i would take Romo because he has been groomed and is a great one right now but in 3 years i think Vince will be one of the elite in the game without a doubt. His will to win and to get better is something that reaches MJ level. Young is never satisfied and like mike uses any slight insult as motivation to get better and prove the doubters wrong!

And everytime i hear somebody compare Vince to Vick they show they have absolutely no knowledge about anything. the only comparison between them is that they are both black and have the ability to run or well had in Vicks case. Vince Young is a QB that is able to run while Vick was a runner that played QB. absoulte no comparison between the 2! so PLEASE STOP COMPARING THEM!!!

Whoa!!!!!

Doc, VY, is no where, I mean no Where near to Michael Jordan. That was just plain idiotic to even say something like. I'm sorry, but those type of statements irk me.

Why would you even degrade MJ like that?

 

[CarlAllDay]

you guys arent giving vy the proper respect.

I would like to say that i would take romo right now, but then again vy has no receivers what so ever with the titans brandon jones?? his tight end is bo scafie are u kidding me romo would throw for 170 and 1 td over there too except he wouldnt get half as many yards on the ground as VY.

i love romo and glad we have him but VY is three times the passer that michael vick was and can still rack up as many yards rushing if he wanted too.

VY young is a more complete version of the early randall cunningham who was very good in his early days with the eagles when he had no wr's.

I think that in 1-2 years young is gonna be top 5 qb easy in this league lets ease off the homerism here.

this guy has the titans winning with no wideouts or true RB lets give the guy his due

 

[5Stars]

this guy has the titans winning with no wideouts or true RB lets give the guy his due

VY is his own person...he, just like Romo, will never be like anybody else.

 

[BHendri5]

Romo all day long!!!! He is light years ahead of VY. Vy may be exciting to a lot of you, I,m still not impressed. I'm still waiting to see something. Things that I've seen that others have seen as well and it excites them, and I'm like what?

Josh Freeman, for K-state as a freshman last season was better than VY as a freshman, and as a Sophmore he is better than VY was.

I just don't see it. But I'll keep watching.

VY, style will not let him be better than Romo. VY, is not a polished passer.
He has some receivers, but becauseof his style, his receivers cannot show their stuff.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

.VY can make plays with his arm and his feet.

And goodness knows, Tony Romo never makes plays with his arm and his feet.

Addendum: The ability to make plays with one's feet is always a desirable quality. However, when a quarterback is using his legs, he should always be looking downfield for open receivers until the point that he crosses the LOS. And At this time in their careers, Tony Romo has better downfield awareness than Vince Young.

 

[BHendri5]

you guys arent giving vy the proper respect.

I would like to say that i would take romo right now, but then again vy has no receivers what so ever with the titans brandon jones?? his tight end is bo scafie are u kidding me romo would throw for 170 and 1 td over there too except he wouldnt get half as many yards on the ground as VY.

i love romo and glad we have him but VY is three times the passer that michael vick was and can still rack up as many yards rushing if he wanted too.

VY young is a more complete version of the early randall cunningham who was very good in his early days with the eagles when he had no wr's.

I think that in 1-2 years young is gonna be top 5 qb easy in this league lets ease off the homerism here.

this guy has the titans winning with no wideouts or true RB lets give the guy his due

Dude, it is not homerism, it is FACT!

Brandon Jones is a good receiver, White is a legit rb, and they have a nice decent O-line and a heck of a defensive line, with Haynesworth leading it.
VY, has some weapons, and I'm told that there is another young guy Roydell Williams, I was told this guy is good but that with VY, no one can tell because of VY's style.

He is not a better passer than Vick either, the only difference is he does not throw the ball a 100mph, like Vick, he seems to have a softer pass, but an ugly mechanics.

 

[joseephuss]

Romo should be better at this point. He may not have played as many regular season games as Young, but you can't discount the experience and knowledge gained of participating in 5 training camps and pre-seasons. Young has gone through two. I am not saying that is the only reason Romo is better, but it gives him an edge. I would think that Young will be a better QB than he is right now when he has more training under his belt. Most QBs do tend to learn a thing or two as the years go by.

Both guys have shown great leadership. Whatever IT is, they both seem to have IT and it works for their respective teams. They have both proven something and still have more to prove. Young maybe more than Romo at this point in his career.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Dude, it is not homerism, it is FACT!

Brandon Jones is a good receiver, White is a legit rb, and they have a nice decent O-line and a heck of a defensive line, with Haynesworth leading it.
VY, has some weapons, and I'm told that there is another young guy Roydell Williams, I was told this guy is good but that with VY, no one can tell because of VY's style.

You were told?

By whom?

He is not a better passer than Vick either, the only difference is he does not throw the ball a 100mph, like Vick, he seems to have a softer pass, but an ugly mechanics.

Well, my eyes "tell" me that VY is a far more polished passer than Vick. And a quarterback who can throw softer passes when needed is a better passer than one who always throws with maximum velocity.

 

[baj1dallas]

May I suggest that he seems to you can read defenses and manipulate people, because you want to believe he can, because you like UT and VY?

I talk to a lot of people all the time that love VY, so anytime the Titans when they give all the credit to VY, his defense, the defense that always sets his offense up never get any credit. That is why Keith Bullock said that Vy is not the only player on their team.

I like him because I watch him all the time and he's unbelievable. The running game of Tennessee and Jeff Fischer is impressive but for a guy who can't read defenses, Young sure can pick one apart in a two minute drill.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I like him because I watch him all the time and he's unbelievable. The running game of Tennessee and Jeff Fischer is impressive but for a guy who can't read defenses, Young sure can pick one apart in a two minute drill.

That must be the only time he's completing passes considering he's only picking up 142 yards a game.

 

[03EBZ06]

VY can make plays with his arm and his feet.

Wow, he must be a very special QB since he can make plays with his arm and feet because no other QBs can make plays with their arm and feet, awesome. :laugh2:

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Wow, he must be a very special QB since he can make plays with his arm and feet because no other QBs can make plays with their arm and feet, awesome. :laugh2:

Correct.

Vince Young is the first quarterback ever to be able to do that-- at least according to some folks here.

 

[PBJTime]

well it is good to see that you actually watch Vince Young, NOT........He is not a running QB. If you have watched him at all this year, he doesn't run. He dances around the pocket looking for open receivers, and then at the last minute he runs.

Vince doesn't just take the ball and look to run like the Canine Assassin. Vince is a pass first, pocket QB, who if need be, can run and scramble like a RB.

Also, you say Romo is more effective, yet Young has a better record as a starter. IMO, wins are more effective than yds or pts. I don't care if you win every game 3-0......it's better than scoring 30 and losing. Vince has been more effective at winning. Also, don't forget, Vince was 3-1 against the NFC East last year, and we had a losing record in our division.

For Dallas, I take Romo over Young, but please do not discount what Vince brings to the table. His impact goes far beyond stats. He brings "IT".......just as Romo brings "IT".

He may have a better record because he's played in more games, but Romo actually has the edge in winning percentage. So, he really hasn't been more effective at winning. At best, it's a push.

On a side note, I've been having this argument against a guy in my fantasy league for like two weeks. And, it's gone back in forth between comparing QB's, to comparing teams and franchise history. I embarrassed him with stats about the Cowboys history when compared to the Titans. But, he has excuses...saying that they've only been around for 8 years or whatever and that I'm not allowed to use stats from when they were the Oilers. Anyways, sorry for the tangent...back to the regularly scheduled debate.