Wait, you guys hate Roy Williams?

[MarionTheBarbarian24]

Can I ask WHY?

 

[This is Our Year]

Can I ask WHY?

Is this a trick question??

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

I dont hate him all...

But....

He needs to work out with who ever T.O is working out with.

Drop his weight to at the most 218.

Somehow balance 'finding Jesus' and playing with emotion.

And quit blaming his flaws on the scheme and Jen Engel.

Outside of that.. he is still one of my favorite players on the team.

 

[TheCount]

I don't hate him, still one of my favorite Cowboys. He just needs to improve, and in a hurry.

I can't say I know what his work ethic is like, but whatever he's doing, he needs to spend more time doing it.

 

[DallasDomination]

put it this way. The only time I support roy williams is when He has His helmet on. But even then it's hard to like this guy. He's hurting Us not only on the field, but in the pocket book.

I wish Him good after He leaves the Cowboys though..looks like a nice guy.

 

[koolaid]

a lot of what you may see on this forum is not hatred for Roy, but dissapointment. RW looked great coming into the league, a huge hitter and playmaking safety with blitzing skills to boot. Now he looks like a totally different player and many people think its from the $. Roy just looks slow, lost and unmotivated out there. He runs scared from the media after games and is not the leader we hoped he would be. Maybe he can still turn it around, but i doubt it.

 

[This is Our Year]

a lot of what you may see on this forum is not hatred for Roy, but dissapointment. RW looked great coming into the league, a huge hitter and playmaking safety with blitzing skills to boot. Now he looks like a totally different player and many people think its from the $. Roy just looks slow, lost and unmotivated out there. He runs scared from the media after games and is not the leader we hoped he would be. Maybe he can still turn it around, but i doubt it.

BINGO, Roy was great in his first few years. He was a top 3 safety in the NFL, now is one of the worst and that's no exaggeration the guy is horrific. Unless he is playing with some type of injury I just don't get how he could fall off that far UGHHHh.

 

[DallasDomination]

what hurts more is that He can't even blitz now.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I dont hate him all...

But....

He needs to work out with who ever T.O is working out with.

Drop his weight to at the most 218.

Somehow balance 'finding Jesus' and playing with emotion.

And quit blaming his flaws on the scheme and Jen Engel.

Outside of that.. he is still one of my favorite players on the team.

You said it all perfect.

 

[DallasDomination]

BINGO, Roy was a great in his first few years. He was a top 3 safety in the NFL, now is one of the worst and that's no exaggeration the guy is horrific. Unless he is playing with some type of injury I just don't get how he could fall off that far UGHHHh.

more like great in is first year and then lived off his potential for the following years.


Not that Darren Woodson had anything to do with that #1 defense and Roy williams success.


Maybe if Woodson would of stayed longer he could of trained Williams in how o be a great player.

 

[Romo2Dez4six]

I'm not a Roy baher or hater, but he needs to get his football head on

 

[Frozen700]

i don't hate him, but i do dis-like him, always blaming others, and making us think hes this beast ready to have a good year "oh i lost blah blah pounds, i feel lighter, and faster, and blah blah blah" Roy just shut up, you and Ellis can get the F outta here

i have always defended the guy, but can't no more, hes just taking up money, and space, i say bench him, and release him next season

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I think the media gets the fans to buy into hating Roy Williams. I've never seen telecasts of games treat a player like they do with Roy where the majority of the time when a team beats Dallas on a big pass play they pan over to Roy no matter if he's on the opposite side of the field and clearly was not even remotely responsible for the coverage.

Two great examples I have is when Toomer scored the first touchdown against Dallas in the playoffs. Henry was in coverage and missed tackles by Henry and Ellis let Toomer score. Yet the camera pans to Roy.

Another one was back in 2005 against the Seahawks when Seattle TE Jerammy Stevens caught a crucial big pass over the middle against Willie Pile. Later that week several media writers talked about how Roy got beat in coverage on that one. Not only was Pile covering Stevans, but Roy actually was blitzing and had hit Hasselbeck just after he threw the ball.

It's the football equivalent of Romo throwing a pass to a receiver who clearly slips and falls mid route and the pass gets intercepted and the media would blame Romo for the interception. Or Romo throws a pass on the money to a receiver who drops it and the media would complain about Romo being inaccurate. That doesn't happen because it would be stupid to think that way. Yet with Roy it seems perfectly okay.

Roy was very average last year and did not play anywhere near like he's getting paid. But I've never seen a player where the media seems to be extremely eager to blame on screwing up everytime there's a big play allowed.




YAKUZA

 

[Frozen700]

I think the media gets the fans to buy into hating Roy Williams. I've never seen telecasts of games treat a player like they do with Roy where the majority of the time when a team beats Dallas on a big pass play they pan over to Roy no matter if he's on the opposite side of the field and clearly was not even remotely responsible for the coverage.

Two great examples I have is when Toomer scored the first touchdown against Dallas in the playoffs. Henry was in coverage and missed tackles by Henry and Ellis let Toomer score. Yet the camera pans to Roy.

Another one was back in 2005 against the Seahawks when Seattle TE Jerammy Stevens caught a crucial big pass over the middle against Willie Pile. Later that week several media writers talked about how Roy got beat in coverage on that one. Not only was Pile covering Stevans, but Roy actually was blitzing and had hit Hasselbeck just after he threw the ball.

It's the football equivalent of Romo throwing a pass to a receiver who clearly slips and falls mid route and the pass gets intercepted and the media would blame Romo for the interception. Or Romo throws a pass on the money to a receiver who drops it and the media would complain about Romo being inaccurate. That doesn't happen because it would be stupid to think that way. Yet with Roy it seems perfectly okay.

Roy was very average last year and did not play anywhere near like he's getting paid. But I've never seen a player where the media seems to be extremely eager to blame on screwing up everytime there's a big play allowed.




YAKUZA

 

[koolaid]

I think the media gets the fans to buy into hating Roy Williams. I've never seen telecasts of games treat a player like they do with Roy where the majority of the time when a team beats Dallas on a big pass play they pan over to Roy no matter if he's on the opposite side of the field and clearly was not even remotely responsible for the coverage.

Two great examples I have is when Toomer scored the first touchdown against Dallas in the playoffs. Henry was in coverage and missed tackles by Henry and Ellis let Toomer score. Yet the camera pans to Roy.

Another one was back in 2005 against the Seahawks when Seattle TE Jerammy Stevens caught a crucial big pass over the middle against Willie Pile. Later that week several media writers talked about how Roy got beat in coverage on that one. Not only was Pile covering Stevans, but Roy actually was blitzing and had hit Hasselbeck just after he threw the ball.

It's the football equivalent of Romo throwing a pass to a receiver who clearly slips and falls mid route and the pass gets intercepted and the media would blame Romo for the interception. Or Romo throws a pass on the money to a receiver who drops it and the media would complain about Romo being inaccurate. That doesn't happen because it would be stupid to think that way. Yet with Roy it seems perfectly okay.

Roy was very average last year and did not play anywhere near like he's getting paid. But I've never seen a player where the media seems to be extremely eager to blame on screwing up everytime there's a big play allowed.




YAKUZA

never bring up willie pile again

 

[Frozen700]

never bring up willie pile again

:bang2:

Ahhh man.....night mares

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

Can I ask WHY?

Im not like alot of folks on here. i appreciate everything Roy has done for this team.. I remember a couple years back when everybody was on the guys sack. Hes a great tackler and hitter, but his coverage is weak. other then that i love the guy. i want him to be a cowboy till he hangs them up!!

 

[Danny White]

I love Roy. He's my favorite defensive player.

He's not perfect, but some people around here like blaming him for every problem in our secondary.

By the way... this thread goes 10 pages, easily.

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

I love Roy. He's my favorite defensive player.

He's not perfect, but some people around here like blaming him for every problem in our secondary.

By the way... this thread goes 10 pages, easily.

Yeah it goes 10x pages easily. i can already see the battles on this thread..

Roy bashers VS Roy supporters.

 

[Kangaroo]

Why is it if you think a guy has become washed up and a liability for the team we hate said player. It is not hate the guy is being payed as an impact player and hid biggest impact is the other teams like to see him on the field in 3rd and long.

There is no hate the guy is just plain under achieving and people rather see him ride the pine.

See you are confusing disgust with hate.