Wanna-Be Talent Evaluators

[erod]

NOONE said Stafford's was a LOSER lmao its simple hes not an upgrade over dak hes a upgrade over Goff..you make this more difficult than it has to be that plain and simple Dak also major upgrade over Goff if you dont think so you are a sad case and lost cause. Stafford, dak ROMO all similar tier qbs , different games but very much in the same tier.

whatever Put Dak on that team they still win SB i mean dak throws far less INTs so less for the defense to bail that team out..yes Stafford was good 17INTS sorry thats not great for starter on that team with those weapons. He played WELL but no different when he was with Detroit just had a SB ready team last season. The comp isnt what Stafford could do here, hes NOT an upgrade over dak..

Dak 38tds 10int they are both on the same level. Same with romo ..that the comp not if Staffords better then dak, its Dak would also have been a major upgrade over GOFF and for sure would have also helped Rams to a SB.. that why you aren't a talent evaluator, you are still missing the fact you think our team is SB ready like the rams and Stafford's an update over dak, NOPE still not true.

The rams were better across the board then us and thats why Stafford rode that wave to a SB..Dak is on that same level period end if story issue is his team has not been in the big moments, show me proof Stafford upgrades our team more than dak, not one single thing he did last year was special. Hes very good qb on great team and he needed weapons like dak does , 14 penalties torpedoed our playoffs game and thats why we lost and Stafford would not have overcome that either.,,17 ints onthat team imagine our OL issues lmao. Stafford play 1st and 20 all game right

give it a rest it was wrong then and wrong now..stafford who got lucky to move to SB ready team i mean Goff got them to a SB thats telling. If its not you are blind. dak, Romo, statffords all same tier qbs in very different situations.

that first line made the rest invalid i mean you believe dak is goff and Stafford would have had the same impact here he had with the rams??..lmao that so not true at all.

Wow. No.

Stafford is infinitely better than Dak he shows up when it matters.

 

[CWR]

There have been postings and comments from highly paid NFL personnel like former and current coaches, players, GMs, and scouts who've given Dak Prescott the respect he deserves. None of them said Dak is on Rodgers, Mahomes or Brady's level, but they've said Dak is a top 10 quarterback.

Dak's production according to NFL.COM's statistics/production has placed him in the top 10.

Im not going to point anybody out specifically, but they know who they are. Its a few here that have legit concerns about Dak moving forward with this team, then there's the handful of haters that downplay anything good Dak HAS done and place blame on Dak for things that isn't his fault.

There's this ONE question that I've noticed that never gets answered from the Dak haters and it actually makes them run, hide, and skip over the question. Here it is....

1. If the NFL professionals, from coaches to GMs, current and former players and scouts say that Dak is a very good quarterback and he's a top 10 quarterback and his PRODUCTION places him in the top 10.... and you (the hater) says Dak isn't good and he's top 10....

Are you (the hater) going on record to say that you know more about football and evaluating quarterback talent than ALL OF THOSE HIGHLY PAID NFL PERSONNEL that ive listed above that get paid millions to eat, sleep and breathe football for a living???

NO DAK HATER HAS EVER ANSWERED THIS QUESTION!!!!

But why not????

I'll need to hit "show ignored content" to see half of this thread lol.

We see the difference every time a back up goes in. Dak is taken for granted because he isn't top 3.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

That's what I mean. He's not the type of QB to pull a rabbit out of his hat at the last moment, like a Favre, Elway, etc. Doesn't put the team on his shoulders despite a bad oline, bad defense, etcetera.

it's OK. A QB like him can win. He just needs to be in the right system.

exactly. not sure why people constantly attack because he is not elite and they argue themselves in circles trying to prove he is not elite and 99% of Dak supporters agree he is not elite.

but can you not win with him? there is plenty of QBs in NFL history who weren't elite and yet went to superbowl or won it, Grapolo, Goff, Foles, Ryan, Flacco, Kaepernick, Grossman, Hasselback, McNabb, Delhomme, etc.

if only Elite QBs would go to superbowls, then we would have 4 or 5 teams be in superbowl for 15 year time periods....

 

[blueblood70]

Wow. No.

Stafford is infinitely better than Dak he shows up when it matters.

No hes not great how opinions work 100% inthe same tier.,when it matters?? his defense bailed them out in the SB b2b series to give shot.sho me daks teams have done that WHEN IT COUNTS. Never happened for romo or DaK , YET..go troll somewhere else.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Not to derail your witch-hunt, but it is possible that the Dak haters agree with the talent evaluators and still have their crusade.

The idea isn’t that he doesn’t deserve top 10, it’s more that a bottom-of-the-top-10 QB isn’t quite enough to overcome the way the organization is currently being run.

Sometimes ‘Good Enough’ just isn’t good enough

well, I think that's fair, so perhaps based on what you said, because of the way Jerry runs the Cowboys and the dysfunction that we are, you think we need an Elite QB to have any chance to overcome it, and Dak is not Elite so you don't see a chance...

so in essence its is Jerry...not the players, which I tend to agree.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

LOL.......The Dak force is strong with this one.....

Are you then Da(rt)k Vader!?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I believe Pappy is a better talent evaluator then you

Also does this paragraph qualify as "Hate" Speech?

Prove to the great people on this board that you are NOT one of these low IQ, weak *** Dak hatin cowards who can't explain their hate with actual proof to back up your argument.

Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate

What are you so upset about? . . . You act like you crawl into bed with Dak at night . . . Like your livelihood is tied to him or something

sorry, I didn't see hate? he has been asked to provide something, anything football related to back up his comments....with pippy, its about TMZ related stuff. he has no football IQ, so the poster perhaps meant to say low football IQ. find a pippy actual football comment...that's the challenge I put forth to you....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

If it wasn't for Jerry Dak wouldn't even be the QB . . . Jerry forced Him upon us in 2016 and Now Jerry has been jamming Him down our throats ever since to justify His idiotic Decision

Dak is the ultimate Bus Driver that they tried to transform into a gun slinger. . . . So He went from managing games to being the focal point . . . In doing so He rips apart bad teams and loses to good teams (Because of Offensive Coordinator and Talent around him)

Now this year The talent on Offense is a notch bellow across the board . . .

Now we shall truly be able to evaluate Dak

So yeah its Most defiantely Jerry and Dak is still a Fraud

Dak is not Elite. what's your point?

 

[DogFace]

Niners and Packers for sure. The offense was horrific in the first halves of both of those games.

It generally has been every time we have a meaningful game late in the season.

Offenses can really help defenses in this situations, but ours hasn't.

Forget stats. It's about game flow and keeping pace without falling way behind early and wearing out the defense by halftime.

Forget stats? They play a major role in evaluating performance.

Don’t forget in the Packers game a 50+? Yard bomb as brought back by an unprecedented illegal huddle. That was points and momentum.

But yea. He and the offense do need to step up, but anyone that evaluates them as worse in any way than the D’s in that game should be questioned.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Ya lots of anger in that soul......blinding

Dak is making $40M, how does that make you feel?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

There are no Dak haters just Cowboy lovers!!!

except one who is a closet Eagles fan...you know who we talkin about right?
you mention wentz and he has an orgasm...oops he just had another one

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Ya, I guess Kupp was throwing to himself......
Stick with screens and check downs you know what we do best on offense!!!

Stafford is a better QB than Dak...your point?
oh wait. there is none I forgot...

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Stopppppppppp with the Production . . . I have watched Him His entire Carear. . . He is terrible . . . He is a fraud

We all know how he accumaltes His stats . . It just comes down to how you spin it. . . Some hold them up as Proof Positive of Dak's abilities or worth . . . Others keep it real @PAPPYDOG . . . Is Paapy a little harsh in His Criticisims? . . . Absolutely, but he has been breaking down the Fraud that is Dak for 6 years now.

The Criticisms are these . . . Red Zone offense . . . Too many 3 and outs . . . and Accuracy (Especially in clutch moments) . . .

While I agree with those assessments for me it has been His inability to throw the back shoulder throw and the way Mr. Back shoulder Wr was ran out of town to placard "The Franchise QB" was proof positive Jerry is an Idiot

Dak is so terrible in these faucets of the game that it is an impossibility that He is top 10

Does He have the Stats . . . Yes . . . Because the Cowboys have been loaded on Offense since He has been Here . . . Combined with Blowing Out Bad Teams and Garbage time stats vs. Good teams

Last years Philly game was sad and pathetic . . . But Exhibit #1 on Daks Stats

ok, so you watched him and your eye test tells everyone he is a fraud...but these NFL execs and players are clueless.

I trust your eye test

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

well, I think that's fair, so perhaps based on what you said, because of the way Jerry runs the Cowboys and the dysfunction that we are, you think we need an Elite QB to have any chance to overcome it, and Dak is not Elite so you don't see a chance...

so in essence its is Jerry...not the players, which I tend to agree.

I definitely believe Dak could get at least to a conference championship game on a better run team. Goff did it, Garoppolo did it, Foles did it, Tannehill did it. Dallas can win but not with Dak. Dak can win but not with Dallas

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Professional evaluators miss more then they hit. Players votes sway on popularity too along with talking media heads. We also can't deny the QB market on talent is incredibly low right now.

Dak has been surronded by an incredible amount of talent for his entire career(mostly) that most quarterbacks will never see in there entire career. He was handed a cadillac of offenses that only improved with the Cooper signing and yet they still rank him 10-12ish. Granted it's a team game and his lack of post season success hurts.

I'f you want to talk about ranking with stats then all media, players, experts would have Cousins above Dak. Cousins could easy be in the top 5-7 range base upon stats alone.

In the end Dak is good enough to win us a superbowl however it's going to be the product of the environment then him being a driving force.

So Brady, Rodgers, Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert, Allen...that's low in talent....when was it not low in talent? how often did that happen. a few examples would be nice.


p.s. Cousins sucks. he has had chances all his career. been surronded by some incredible talent and he has failed continuosly and consistently. time to realize that Cousins is a bloated sack of nothing.

 

[tm1119]

The sheer lack of intelligence in this thread is honestly astounding.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

A healthy Romo with that 2016 roster would have been magical. And that would have led to a much different look going forward. Dak doesn't play well against good teams like Romo usualy did.

I agree. I think Jerry made a huge mistake not allowing Romo to get the starting position back, not for regular season wins, but playoff experience. playoffs are a different type of game and experience counts. there is a reason no rookie QB has ever made it to the superbowl in over 50 years. 100+ QBs and zero rookies ever. very very few in their second year.

that was a colossal Jerry/Garrett mistake.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

By the way....i dont know crap about technical football. I can barely tell you what a 2 tech is. I freely admit it.

But not gonna let the likes of you tell me what to say and think.

Call me a hater.? Prove it. Show me hatin. You cant....but you sure do a lot of yappin.

so you don't know craap about football as you admited. but yet, you have a big opinion about QB play...yeah, you don't have an agenda....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

How many times can we discuss the same thing. I think anyone who starts a Dak Prescott thread (positive or negative) between now and game day of week one should be banned

another 187622033 times....at least

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Ok cool. You're not a hater.... but explain to me what makes your evaluation of NFL quarterback more credible than the players IN THE NFL that Dak plays against, the coaches IN THE NFL that game plan to play against Dak, and the GMs and scouts.

What makes you think that you know football and quarterbacking better than these people who are paid millions to eat, sleep, and breathe football daily???

its the eye test...the eye test my friend. they eye test of his play in the 4th quarter when they are half drunk, barely awake on the couch....the eye test never fails, specially when you admit you know nothing about football