Wanna-Be Talent Evaluators

[blueblood70]

Exactly. That's part of the point of my joke.

exactly i was adding to it..

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

exactly i was adding to it..

It was a good addition.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

A healthy Romo with that 2016 roster would have been magical. And that would have led to a much different look going forward. Dak doesn't play well against good teams like Romo usualy did.

I'd have loved it if Romo was healthy that year. The problem is it was only a matter of time before something was going to happen to his body that season. All it would have done is delayed the inevitable of Dak taking over. The last season Romo had in which he started all the games in the regular season or above was the 2012-2013 season. The next year, he'd miss the last game with a back injury (Eagles game). After that, he'd miss a game with another back injury (missed the Cards game). Then he'd miss most of 2015 with two broken collarbone injuries.

I'm one of the biggest Romo defenders, as well as Dak defenders. However, to assume realistically that Romo would've stayed healthy that season (if not for the Seahawks pre-season game) goes against the statistics of how Romo's career was trending at that point. Therefore, as I stated, it'd only have delayed the inevitable.

 

[Haimerej]

I'd have loved it if Romo was healthy that year. The problem is it was only a matter of time before something was going to happen to his body that season. All it would have done is delayed the inevitable of Dak taking over. The last season Romo had in which he started all the games in the regular season or above was the 2012-2013 season. The next year, he'd miss the last game with a back injury (Eagles game). After that, he'd miss a game with another back injury (missed the Cards game). Then he'd miss most of 2015 with two broken collarbone injuries.

I'm one of the biggest Romo defenders, as well as Dak defenders. However, to assume realistically that Romo would've stayed healthy that season (if not for the Seahawks pre-season game) goes against the statistics of how Romo's career was trending at that point. Therefore, as I stated, it'd only have delayed the inevitable.

Holding players out because they might get injured is no way to run a football team.

 

[tyke1doe]

You have to have luck to get the kind of QB you're asking for. There are many QBs that were touted as that in the first round who flop. We have a very good one who we got very lucky to draft in the 4th round who is a top 10. Sure, he's not Rodgers, Brady, or Manning, but he's a QB with whom we can win. So no, not all of us want him gone. If there's a QB to be had, sure, but we don't have to start a rookie while we have Dak.

It's hard to find a franchise quarterback. I think Bill Parcells said something about such trees are hard to find.
So, having a starter who is competent enough to run an NFL offense and who can do enough to help your team win is the next best thing.
That's why Bill Parcells built a team around his quarterback and while not having a franchise quarterback in any of his stops, was able to get smart quarterbacks who could make plays when needed and who wouldn't make mistakes at critical times.
Then, he relied on his defense to win games.

A coach and a team have to play the hand their dealt. If no franchise quarterback is available, you go with what you've got.

We've got Dak now. So, we'll have to ride with him.

 

[blueblood70]

Holding players out because they might get injured is no way to run a football team.

actually 75% of teams with relative shot at the playoffs' do hold out nearly all their starters nearly the entire PS..It is how you run a team..why risk it? its game that doesn't count and those what 12-15 snaps some get does exactly what that practice/scrimmages doesn't do? nothing thats what and i watched just why, that last PS game i saw 10 starters limp off(that just the ones i know about) and some will miss some RS games, that's why..

last year, they used pS the same way and came out playing well.it made NO difference.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Said the kindergartener to the instructor of Euclidean geometry.
The originator of this thread graciously understood. That's good enough for me.

first of all, I am not in kindergarten, I am not even ready for pre-k...so I appreciate the compliment

and doesn't matter...your logic is illogical

its like saying Henry is only a top 5 NFL RB right now, because Smith, Sanders, Brown. Dickerson, Peterson, Payton, Campbell, Bettis are not in the league, otherwise he would have no chance.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You have to have luck to get the kind of QB you're asking for. There are many QBs that were touted as that in the first round who flop. We have a very good one who we got very lucky to draft in the 4th round who is a top 10. Sure, he's not Rodgers, Brady, or Manning, but he's a QB with whom we can win. So no, not all of us want him gone. If there's a QB to be had, sure, but we don't have to start a rookie while we have Dak.

well, the kid wants what he wants. that he has no clue how to get one doesn't matter. that he doesn't understand football is irrelevant to the argument.

 

[Haimerej]

actually 75% of teams with relative shot at the playoffs' do hold out nearly all their starters nearly the entire PS..It is how you run a team..why risk it? its game that doesn't count and those what 12-15 snaps some get does exactly what that practice/scrimmages doesn't do? nothing thats what and i watched just why, that last PS game i saw 10 starters limp off(that just the ones i know about) and some will miss some RS games, that's why..

last year, they used pS the same way and came out playing well.it made NO difference.

Perfect example of you being a contrarian. I respond to someone saying Romo would've just been injured again if they let him play and you bring up preseason. We weren't talking about preseason. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

 

[Established1971]

I stopped at "hater" Anyone who continues to use this juvenile word has no intellectual credibility

 

[Established1971]

"Are you going on record to say that you know more about football and evaluating quarterback talent than ALL OF THOSE HIGHLY PAID NFL PERSONNEL that ive listed above that get paid millions to eat, sleep and breathe football for a living???"

Oh my god, is this top poster for real?

They be on the tv so they's must be's an expert, duh

 

[Rockport]

If Dak went to the Rams they don't win that SB. Stafford had to make some clutch throws under pressure against a good team.

You’re a great example of who the OP was talking about.

 

[Rockport]

No, you were just too simple to answer the question. Not surprising though, its almost expected.....

It is expected from him. He’s about as clueless as a slug.

 

[tyke1doe]

first of all, I am not in kindergarten, I am not even ready for pre-k...so I appreciate the compliment

This comment is funny given the context.

and doesn't matter...your logic is illogical

To you, yes.
Then again, a child would say Euclidean geometry is illogical.

its like saying Henry is only a top 5 NFL RB right now, because Smith, Sanders, Brown. Dickerson, Peterson, Payton, Campbell, Bettis are not in the league, otherwise he would have no chance.

Again ...

 

[GINeric]

Wow. No.

Stafford is infinitely better than Dak he shows up when it matters.

Stafford is going on his 13th season, Dak is only going on his 7th. Shouldn't Stafford be better than Dak playing in the NFL twice as long as Dak??

Now compare Daks production at the 6 or 7 year mark compared to Stafford's first 6 or 7 year mark.

Daks firstl 6 year winning percentage embarrass Stafford's first 6 year winning percentage.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

It's hard to find a franchise quarterback. I think Bill Parcells said something about such trees are hard to find.
So, having a starter who is competent enough to run an NFL offense and who can do enough to help your team win is the next best thing.
That's why Bill Parcells built a team around his quarterback and while not having a franchise quarterback in any of his stops, was able to get smart quarterbacks who could make plays when needed and who wouldn't make mistakes at critical times.
Then, he relied on his defense to win games.

A coach and a team have to play the hand their dealt. If no franchise quarterback is available, you go with what you've got.

We've got Dak now. So, we'll have to ride with him.

Exactly, to quote Parcells, you don't just go into a Texaco station, change QBs, and move on your way. You have to build a supporting cast for your QB. Aikman wouldnt have been the Aikman we knew him to be without Emmitt, Irvin, the oline we had then including Stephanowski, and the defence we had then. Just the same, Dak needs a decent supporting cast. Yes, he needs to carry the team, but he has to have a supporting cast like any QB to help him.

 

[Brax]

Yes, Dak is a very good top 10 quarterback making elite money. Thats because of the way the pay structure is set up for quarterbacks.

Other than Tom Brady, what quarterback is REALLY worth the elite money they're getting paid???

Funny thing is Brady doesn’t get top money.

 

[leeblair]

There have been postings and comments from highly paid NFL personnel like former and current coaches, players, GMs, and scouts who've given Dak Prescott the respect he deserves. None of them said Dak is on Rodgers, Mahomes or Brady's level, but they've said Dak is a top 10 quarterback.

Dak's production according to NFL.COM's statistics/production has placed him in the top 10.

Im not going to point anybody out specifically, but they know who they are. Its a few here that have legit concerns about Dak moving forward with this team, then there's the handful of haters that downplay anything good Dak HAS done and place blame on Dak for things that isn't his fault.

There's this ONE question that I've noticed that never gets answered from the Dak haters and it actually makes them run, hide, and skip over the question. Here it is....

1. If the NFL professionals, from coaches to GMs, current and former players and scouts say that Dak is a very good quarterback and he's a top 10 quarterback and his PRODUCTION places him in the top 10.... and you (the hater) says Dak isn't good and he's top 10....

Are you (the hater) going on record to say that you know more about football and evaluating quarterback talent than ALL OF THOSE HIGHLY PAID NFL PERSONNEL that ive listed above that get paid millions to eat, sleep and breathe football for a living???

NO DAK HATER HAS EVER ANSWERED THIS QUESTION!!!!

But why not????

Yes, I know a great deal more than most of them.
The NFL has become more of a clique and family business, and talent evaluation is being done at an amateur level- just like the coaching.
Is this that hard to believe? Every year there are multiple teams who fail to play at the level they are expected to because of poor coaching.
And I would bet that you have complained about poor coaching, as well.

 

[Brax]

Ok so you're saying former and current players, coaches, GMs, and scouts are saying Dak is a top 10 quarterback to be nice to him and to put positive energy in the air because they won't say anything negative.

Ok again.... those people didn't have to say anything about Dak because the production speaks for itself. When you go and look at the NFLs official standings, Daks PRODUCTION landed him in the top 10 because the NFL officials add up every players production in every position.

Dak being a top ten QB doesn't have anything to do with other NFL professionals observations, it has to do with mathematics. NFL officials add up every players production, from amount of snaps played, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down percentages, to performance in indoor or outdoor stadiums, etc.

NFL.COM don't deal in opinions, they add up the production.

Stats, in context with Dak mean little. Just so you know NFL com is all about opinions, you need to look at it.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

This comment is funny given the context.


To you, yes.
Then again, a child would say Euclidean geometry is illogical.



Again ...

you really don't get it do you?

so how many times did you google Euclidean? LOL