Want respect?

[G2]

greg, AC hates romo and has wished and prayed somebody would come alone and play good so he could say, "I told you it was all romo's fault".. sad.. he's still crying about it..

And you have been doing the exact opposite.

 

[Diehardblues]

Sean Lee is a hard worker w/ a great attitude. So is Zach. It's not how you describe a backup, it's how you describe a player that has a great attitude and works hard at his craft!!!!

Is Dak very talented? Absolutely. However, at the QB position it takes more than just being very talented. Cutler was talented.

And see, Greg? Here we are regurgitating the same exact mess in an unrelated topic. Which is why someone complained about spewing more QB spew.

I understand and I’m trying to stay away but when others spew I’m drawn back in. Like the comparison to Danny.

 

[Diehardblues]

Sean Lee is a hard worker w/ a great attitude. So is Zach. It's not how you describe a backup, it's how you describe a player that has a great attitude and works hard at his craft!!!!

Is Dak very talented? Absolutely. However, at the QB position it takes more than just being very talented. Cutler was talented.

And see, Greg? Here we are regurgitating the same exact mess in an unrelated topic. Which is why someone complained about spewing more QB spew.

I wouldn’t say it’s totally unrelated when discussing why we aren’t recieving more respect. It’s just that any criticism of him is sensitive to a segment of fans. We’ve seen this all before.

 

[Bobhaze]

Winning in January? What’s that? If the front office never has any expectations then we just get to watch other teams do it.

We need some good habits to form in January. It’s been too long since winning in January was part of the culture.

 

[Diehardblues]

We need some good habits to form in January. It’s been too long since winning in January was part of the culture.

Good habits are formed by exceptional talent which it’s been too long since we’ve had.

Exceptional talent and coaching has always been the benchmark to the Cowboys post season success in our storied history.

Without those components it’s going to be difficult to have the success and gain the respect.

But as one poster above suggested, we can place our Cowboy blinders on and ignore the criticism because as long as we believe nothing else matters.

 

[kskboys]

I wouldn’t say it’s totally unrelated when discussing why we aren’t recieving more respect. It’s just that any criticism of him is sensitive to a segment of fans. We’ve seen this all before.

Actually, that's not what I have the problem w/. It's when someone brings him up, it ruins the thread.


It got so bad w/ Romo on the old boards that we started giving warnings for even mentioning him. What that did was allowed others to have conversations w/o the constant Romo spew.

 

[Bobhaze]

Anyway. Back to Bobs thread. Why aren’t we getting more respect? I’ve laid out what I think. What are your thoughts.

The point of this thread wasn’t about “why aren’t we getting more respect?” In my mind it’s simply this- If you want your team to be respected in the NFL, it happens by winning in the playoffs.

 

[Diehardblues]

Actually, that's not what I have the problem w/. It's when someone brings him up, it ruins the thread.


It got so bad w/ Romo on the old boards that we started giving warnings for even mentioning him. What that did was allowed others to have conversations w/o the constant Romo spew.

I think what you’ll see Kevin is in the Zone during regular season these threads will be more closely monitored . Like last year or year before they created the Drama Zone. Which a thread like this would be moved to .

They don’t pin threads here but move and merge them if the discussion is closely related or over dramatized .

It’s going to be difficult much as it was with Romo that anyone mentioning him often spins in another direction. Much like with me mentioning he was why we aren’t recieving more respect spun off . It’s all part of the discussion but I think overall like we saw the other day with those warnings it will be much more closely monitored and controlled here when the season begins.

 

[Kevinicus]

Actually, that's not what I have the problem w/. It's when someone brings him up, it ruins the thread.


It got so bad w/ Romo on the old boards that we started giving warnings for even mentioning him. What that did was allowed others to have conversations w/o the constant Romo spew.

The "old" boards? They gave actual warnings for mentioning a player? What a terrible place. You seem to complain about anyone who is even a tiny bit critical of Dak, but have no problem with those pump sunshine. Why is that?

What is worse, the delusion that someone can do no wrong, the delusion that someone can do nothing right, or the delusion that you don't fit either category?

As for the OP - don't care about respect from sports writers, or other teams, etc. Just play and everything is sorted out.

 

[Captain-Crash]

The "old" boards? They gave actual warnings for mentioning a player? What a terrible place. You seem to complain about anyone who is even a tiny bit critical of Dak, but have no problem with those pump sunshine. Why is that?

What is worse, the delusion that someone can do no wrong, the delusion that someone can do nothing right, or the delusion that you don't fit either category?

As for the OP - don't care about respect from sports writers, or other teams, etc. Just play and everything is sorted out.

awesome post..

 

[Diehardblues]

The point of this thread wasn’t about “why aren’t we getting more respect?” In my mind it’s simply this- If you want your team to be respected in the NFL, it happens by winning in the playoffs.

In other words you weren’t wanting a discussion on why we weren’t gaining more respect simply making a statement we weren’t because of no success in the playoffs?

That’s great Bob but not usually how it works in an opinion based forum like this. If you throw a subject out there it’s going to be dissected and discussed.

We can all agree that’s a big part of why we aren’t gaining more respect but how we have arrived is part of it as well.

 

[Blackrain]

We are starting to see the annual pre-season predictions from almost all the usual media reps. I’m always amused by not only the predictions but even more so by the fans who scream “disrespect” because their favorite team was predicted to crash and burn. If a writer gives a good prediction, he’s “credible”; if not he’s “an idiot”. Everyone wants their team to be respected and that’s understandable.

This summer’s predictions that I’ve read as a collective group seem to have our Cowboys as high as 12-4 and as low as 7-9. ESPN local writer Todd Archer has us at 10-6 and a WC team. Dallas Morning News’ Jon Machata has us at 9-7 and out of the playoffs. Big whoop. I believe the Cowboys have enough talent to make some noise. Do they have the coaching? We will see.

Honestly, I put ZERO credibility into any of these predictions, good or bad. The NFL is the toughest pro sports league to predict. Raise your hand if you had the Jaguars last year in the AFC Championship? This year, they are one of “sexy” picks which usually means they won’t make the playoffs.

The reason the NFL is so hard to predict year to year is because the difference between a SB winner and a non-playoff team is not that far talent wise. Unlike the NBA or MLB, the talent pool in the NFL is spread pretty evenly, and the way the salary cap is managed these days, teams have a lot of turnover from year to year. Every year in the NFL is a new adventure.

My main point is this- None of us know what teams will be in the SB this year, but as far as getting some of that “RESPECT” that all fans crave, there’s literally only one way to get it with the media: WIN in the playoffs. Get at least to a conference championship game. And guess what? That’s actually fair. You want respect? Earn it by winning some playoff games. This team hasn’t won two playoff games in a season since Barry Switzer was packing heat in his suitcase at the airport.

Here’s a few links to some pre-season predictions...if you care to imbibe. LOL!
1. SI- https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/06/07/nfl-schedule-2018-team-record-predictions-analysis
2. Dallas MN https://sportsday.***BANNED-DO-NOT-...018-schedule-will-even-year-kind-dallas-again
3. CBS Sports https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...game-for-every-team-plus-super-bowl-champion/

Respect is earned by winning in January. We will get zero respect until that happens. And again, that’s fair! Let’s go Cowboys!

Great read Bullett , Totally agree respect is built through the winning of playoff games . We had respect when we had great coaching with Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson because great coaching wins in the POST SEASON WHEN EVERYONE IS GOOD .

We have poor coaching now and because of this fact very little chance of winning a championship or gaining respect .

In the salary cap era it is just not possible to buy enough talent to overcome bad coaching , or an owner that gambles our second round picks on guys that cant contribute right away . Wasting years of a guys career rehabbing injuries or getting him off drugs dosent play well in the SHORT WINDOW the NFL gives you to win before you have to either pay people big money or let them go .

No Respect is in our immediate future . That said we will have some really good football to watch because the Power Running Game covers many of our coaching sins up until that time past round one when everyone is real good and we cant even get our players substituted after an extra week to prepare LOLOL

A tough Pill to swallow but its really all we can expect with our team as Jerrys hobby

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

I find the 49er “love” hilarious. They are basing their inner improvement essentially on the back of 4 games that Jimmy Garropolo played well. Jimmy G has way less credibility than Dak IMO.

I don't know if he has way less credibility Bob. He's been in the league 4 years (going on 5), he also performed at a very high level filling in for Brady during his suspension. Teams will obviously adjust more to him as there becomes more and more tape on him but he has shown he can play and play at a high level. There is no denying what he did with a 49's team (without alot of talent) last year when he took over. That being said the NFL is a "what have you done lately for me league" so he will have to do it again this year to validate the big deal the 49's signed him to in the offseason

 

[Blackrain]

Teams like the Eagles , Rams and now looks like 49ers were instantly elevated with a QB.

Meanwhile we’re like Minn, Houston or Jax without a defense. Oh boy

Or even a Coach

 

[Diehardblues]

The "old" boards? They gave actual warnings for mentioning a player? What a terrible place. You seem to complain about anyone who is even a tiny bit critical of Dak, but have no problem with those pump sunshine. Why is that?

What is worse, the delusion that someone can do no wrong, the delusion that someone can do nothing right, or the delusion that you don't fit either category?

As for the OP - don't care about respect from sports writers, or other teams, etc. Just play and everything is sorted out.

It was a forum where the Homers and their clique were often more protected than the critics.

Some mods were even entertained by them asking for others to look the other way while they ganged up on those who were criticizing.

When that finally was overridden it was the beginning of the end because the mods didn’t have the control needed. That’s not an issue on this forum along with the Adm being the owner of the site.

Personal insults and badgering members isn’t tolerated . Is there some . Sure, it slips thru the cracks but not for long if it persists. And trolling or troll hunting isn’t tolerated either. Great site in comparison to old site. You’ll see once the season kicks off. They are on it!!

 

[kskboys]

The "old" boards? They gave actual warnings for mentioning a player? What a terrible place. You seem to complain about anyone who is even a tiny bit critical of Dak, but have no problem with those pump sunshine. Why is that?

What is worse, the delusion that someone can do no wrong, the delusion that someone can do nothing right, or the delusion that you don't fit either category?

As for the OP - don't care about respect from sports writers, or other teams, etc. Just play and everything is sorted out.

What is worse is someone like you who jumps in and weakly insults people for no reason. Are you like 12 years old?

 

[Bullflop]

I think 9-7 or 10-6 has been a pretty common theme for most of the fans and the media as well. Depending upon injuries and so many other things mixed in, however, there's probably a good case to be had for anywhere from 7-9 to 12-4 for the souls who feel inclined to go upon that limb. I'm personally feeling most comfortable by going with a 9-7 or 10-6 finish myself. Of course, things can easily occur for us to end up with an unexpected record.

 

[America's Cowboy]

greg, AC hates romo and has wished and prayed somebody would come alone and play good so he could say, "I told you it was all romo's fault".. sad.. he's still crying about it..

I mostly didn't hate Romo the player. I disliked Romo Goes Hollywood playa. When he finally matured off the field and truly was tearing it up on the field, his body was getting injured and breaking down.

awesome post..

Yet, you couldn't take it when someone critiqued Romo on the old boards.

 

[kskboys]

awesome post..

Weak 3rd grade insults w/ no basis in fact make awesome posts? Man, you guys are on a roll!!!!

 

[Diehardblues]

Or even a Coach

Right. Coaching is definitely not a strength for us and why more elite talent at the key positions is so critical.