Ware Release: has the Organization Changed? ***Ware Mega Merge-place all Ware threads here please***

[SilverStarCowboy]

Ware will get a lot, 8-10 Million per, and he'll have a Career Year.

 

[CyberB0b]

Yes.

Seymour was on the last year of contract when the Patriots traded him to the Raiders.

Ware had four more years left on his contract.




Oh.


bang

One has to ask why he was signed to a contract paying him double digit millions until he's 36.

 

[Alexander]

Negative. You had a player with a 12.5 million dollar base salary who was not worth 12.5 million. Let's see if he gets that much on the market.

So who signed him to that contract again? Oh yes, the ones who screwed up the salary cap.

Hey, anyone think the dead money that Jay Ratliff accounted for would have been useful? Me too.

 

[Alexander]

Ware will get a lot 8-10 Million per, and he'll have a Career Year.

Not sure he will have a "career year" but I feel pretty safe in predicting he will be better off. Older pass rushers like John Abraham demonstrate there is life after being a cap casualty.

 

[Kaiser]

I love how people who dig holes this deep are the ones who toss out the most insults.

Again, your point remains pointless. Dallas didn't rebuild it's OL in 6 months or even 18 months.
They did it over 3+ years. Dallas had Free, Frederick, Smith all penciled in from the first practice of 2013.

This is nonsensical. Dallas did a three year rebuild by knowing they would draft a Center one year ago and that Free would completely tank in 2012 but rebound in 2013? Is that really a point you are having a fit over?

Dallas started last year with more questions on their OLine, fewer prospects on the roster and less money to spend in FA. And OLine was a strength last year, it can definitely be done. It remains to be seen how it plays out but to say it can't ignores the very recent history.

Leary won a LG job in TC and they added a future HOF on a hometown sweetheart deal when Bern was slowed again by injury to start the year.
When Waters went down they went back to Bern and he played quite well.

Leary was a PRACTICE SQUAD PLAYER the year before. PRACTICE SQUAD. At this same time last year posters here were laughing at the idea he would contribute and he was named to the All NFC East team.

Bern is exactly the kind of mid-tier FA the Cowboys are targeting in FA, XWalker posted a long list of targets. He is also in that group of Leary and Costa players that you are mocking in this thread.

 

[jterrell]

Since Al Davis is dead, I don't see any team paying him 10 million a year in guaranteed money.

He didn't say 10m per guaranteed... he said 10m per.
Since his agent CLEARLY had offers from other teams he KNEW other teams were paying more than Dallas.
If he is convinced he can get 10m per it isn't a wild guess....
He isn't spending the first day of free agency in Denver because he wants to catch a Nuggets game.

Expect the announcement later tonight.
Something like 4 years 40m max; really more like 3 years and 25m with at least 12m guaranteed.

 

[Alexander]

One has to ask why he was signed to a contract paying him double digit millions until he's 36.

It is just Jerry Jones' mentality. He thinks all the players are invincible and will believe until they are that way until the cold harsh reality is staring him in the face.

He has done the same thing with Tony Romo and I am guessing we will have the same kind of discussion about him this time in 2016. Maybe sooner.

 

[CyberB0b]

He didn't say 10m per guaranteed... he said 10m per.
Since his agent CLEARLY had offers from other teams he KNEW other teams were paying more than Dallas.
If he is convinced he can get 10m per it isn't a wild guess....
He isn't spending the first day of free agency in Denver because he wants to catch a Nuggets game.

Expect the announcement later tonight.
Something like 4 years 40m max; really more like 3 years and 25m with at least 12m guaranteed.

So 4 million a year guaranteed? We could have done that.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I like fight scenes only

what is the mans doing???

 

[Zekeats]

I don't doubt that if he gets healthy next year he might have 12+ sacks. but how many more years does he have left and how close are we to being a true championship team. as bill walsh said, he rather let a player walk away one year to early than one year too late. billicheck let seymore walk and he was a very good player at the time. the question is will ware be a double digit sack guy 2 or 3 years from now?

Can't compare Apples and Steaks. Ware and Seymour should not be in the same level. I honestly do think he would be a double digit sack guy the next 3 seasons. Even 8+ is better than what the 3 lower tier free agents that Jerry is thinking of.

 

[Alexander]

Hall of Fame pass rushers grow on trees so don't sweat it.

Pretty sure the next guy we draft will be just as good or better than Ware and not be like Ekuban, Pittman, Carver.

You forgot the greatness of Marcellus Wiley and Peppi Zellner.

 

[Zekeats]

Good for DW, hope he has some success there (as long as it isn't against Dallas)

I hope he has even more success if we played them, which won't happen anyway unless its pre-season. Who cares anymore. It's not like we are going anywhere anyways.

 

[Nightman]

So who signed him to that contract again? Oh yes, the ones who screwed up the salary cap.

Hey, anyone think the dead money that Jay Ratliff accounted for would have been useful? Me too.

Jay Ratliff would have been more useful. Not every contract reaches it's end like Ware's. No one foresaw Ratliff up and quitting on Dallas. He had been treated very fairly. He was one of the players that would have greatly benefited from the switch to 4-3.

Dallas didn't screw up the cap with Ware. This was always the decision year with his contract. That is the way it was written.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

hEARD ON sIRIUW


Heard on Sirius NFL Radio about half hour ago that Ware signed with Baltimore...in the interview with DW, he stated that the Ravens was the team they were working with all along...

What? He's in Denver visiting them.

 

[Galian Beast]

So who signed him to that contract again? Oh yes, the ones who screwed up the salary cap.

Hey, anyone think the dead money that Jay Ratliff accounted for would have been useful? Me too.

Signing a veteran isn't screwing up the salary cap. That doesn't mean you aren't going to cut him if his performance drops. We could have 40 million under the cap and you still don't pay Ware 12.5 million at his performance.

 

[jterrell]

So 4 million a year guaranteed? We could have done that.

not the way it works, no we couldn't.
they are gonna hand Ware a check for ~10m today.
we wanted to hand him 5 or 6. That 4 or 5 million is pretty significant to even Warren Buffet.
the guarantee will just cover into year 2 and likely not all the salary there. --tho it 'could' be the full two years and more like 18m guaranteed.

 

[Hostile]

There are of course multiple ways of looking at this. Was it a necessary move? Quite frankly, no. We were under the cap, could still do other moves to create room, etc.

Was it a smart move? The jury is still out on that. This guy was a class individual, the all time sack leader in our team's History, and was clearly hampered by injuries the last 2 seasons. But that's the key here. Injuries, advancing age, high salary, and you start wondering about the law of diminishing returns.

I have very mixed emotions and won't lie about that. This is a player I have literally enjoyed rooting for. I do see football as a business for the players and for the teams too. He made a business decision. The team did too. It frees up cap room this year and a whole ton of room next year. I see it.

Who fills the role he had here as the guy every team had to account for on every play? And don't kid yourself, injured or not they still had to because he is so fast off the snap. That's what I don't see yet.

I have no issue with a youth movement. Is Witten next? He might be. I'll have mixed emotions on that too. I think it is natural when you love the team and enjoy the players as so many of us do.

Changed for the better? I can't say that until I see if he returns to form or we get someone who helps us.

Changed for the worst? I can't say that either for the same exact reasons.

 

[Zekeats]

It would be betting an additional 120 when you have 85 in the pot.

The better analogy would be buying more of a losing stock just because you already own share of that stock. A good investor would only buy more shares if he thought there was a high probability of the stock increasing in value regardless of how much he already had invested in it.

It's called chasing a losing hand. I wouldn't be a good idea to go all in wishing to get that final card needed to make a straight.

Then you and Jerry never rivered someone before, but I can guarantee you that Jerry has gotten rivered before and this time Ware will show us he just folded a winning hand.

I agree with everything every one says about a guy like Anthony Spencer who is a good-very good player, but an All-Pro game changer like Demarcus Ware only comes around once every 30 years, see Charles Haley(and we didn't draft him)

 

[WoodysGirl]

 

[RJ_MacReady]

Hell yes! This is a sign that the Jones' might have a competitive bone in their collective bodies!