Warner Breakdown of Dak vs Houston

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Interesting breakdown by Kurt Warner of Dak's play vs Houston.


on the 5th play, again he shows the bad play design that makes it hard to execute. I think Dak made the right call. CD was there, but had no chance for a TD, where Pollard had an entire open area and with his ability to make defenders miss, it was the right choice...but its as he said, progression play, bang bang bang....in real time it took less than 2 seconds specially in that area of the field. so out of 5 plays 3 have had scheme/design issues.
 

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Interesting breakdown by Kurt Warner of Dak's play vs Houston.


the 6th play with the double slant. against another bad design against that defense. why does moore insist on flooding WRs into an area. two deep routes on one side and two slants on the other side. that's not putting your WRs in position to win. that was the interception because of the ball being tipped, because there were no open passing lanes. the other two WRs were covered and had no chance. perhaps the ball should have been thrown away. the more I watch, the less I like Moore's offensive scheme. its a lot like Garrett that relies solely on perfect execution as opposed to scheming players open. his play calling doesn't pressure the defense and seems to make decision making easy for the defenders.

the one thing I didn't like was that Dak never looked to the other side, only at the two options on one side. but with that said, the pressure came up the middle very quickly. just a bad play design and bad play call.
 

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Interesting breakdown by Kurt Warner of Dak's play vs Houston.


on the seventh play, it was another bad play design, where you only get one option and its a risky option going over the middle. again, another bad Moore play design. the pass was complete for a short gain over the middle, but 4 other recievers had no chance.
 

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while the analysis does show that better routes could be run at times to hold or influence the defender, we do not know necessarily why it wasn't done better, whether design or WR not running the route correctly (alignment, angle, option).

I keep thinking whether the WRs are indeed running the routes the designer (or QB audible, or option) calls for. Seems like at least sometimes the WRs may be winging it, and not being crisp/decisive. I lean toward the design being sound and the execution falling short on those, just because the designer has way more experience than these young WRs. Add the fact that they are seeking experienced WRs now.

I could be wrong now, but I don't think so. Its a jungle out there.
 

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Interesting breakdown by Kurt Warner of Dak's play vs Houston.


on the 8th play he analyzed, he calls out Moore. the design is inviting the defense to cover the play and doesn't give a chance to the players to make any plays...I stopped watching after this one. coming to conclusion that Moore sucks more than I thought
 

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Jerry should hire Warner to come in every Monday to go over the tape and diagnose all Dak's bad plays.

Getting someone like that from outside the organization would really help Dak and make him a better QB.
diagnose Moore's bad play designs. in the first 8 plays he analyzed, he passive aggressively called out the bad play design. in the 8th play (I stopped watching after that), he plain called out that we are inviting the defense to cover the play.... so this was more about Moore and his bad play calling, bad route combination and bad play design, playing right into the defenses hand. Jerry should Hire warner to coach moore
 

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Appreciate these.
Doesn't take years of film study, coaching experience or to have played or not played to understand them.
Basic fundamental analysis of what QBs are not doing/lacking during the play as it happens in real time.

He prefaces the whole thing by stating he's not a hater, has a relationship with Dak, loves the dude.
Then says these film study sessions are designed to help QBs with what he sees they could improve in.
Basic QB film break down and not hard to follow.

Throws are there to be made.
Receivers have separation.
Kurt doesn't even hafta say it.

Clueless and not HOF QB zoners blaming Moore are hilarious.

Once again, tape don't lie.
LOL. so Warner calling out bad play design outright is not what you heard? he clearly called out the play design 6 times in the first 8 plays he analyzed. yeah, Kurt doesn't have to say it. Moore sucks.
 

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While I agree with you somewhat, in my opinion, the throws were all there to be made. Regardless of the route concepts info, it almost sounds as if Kurt is trying to be nice to Dak by mentioning the pattern as if to excuse him for not having made the throw sooner on each play. He coulda just stopped and said plant your foot and fire with accuracy here. Which he kinda did at times did but then softened his stance by pointing out route concepts.

My whole point is there IS plenty evidence of wide receiver separation for accurate throws to be made in just the first 15 minutes alone of all these PA plays, ALL of those throws that could have been made, should have been made imo.

They weren't.

Opinions vary I guess.

And I'm sure the resident Dak defense attorney teams here and self proclaimed QB analysts will point how wrong Kurt is.

But that's life in the Zone for ya, lol.
Its highly evident indeed.
I wish Dak still had some ceiling left; some positive growth yet to be seen, but Dak is what he is if I'm being totally honest.
Decent QB, but so is Geno Smith, Justin Fields, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, Jared Goff, Tannehill even, etc.. the list is long for decent QBs in this league.
Hard to find a top 3-5 and why decent QBs get paid so well.
 

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Moore ain’t making 42 million per and is not limiting the cap
so a QB supposed to make a filet mignon out of pile of shiet play designs...we have a pop warner Offensive Coordinator designing plays for NFL team. why Moore is not fired yet, is beyond me. we will never ever win a superbowl with Moore, even if we had Rodgers as QB and Brady as his back up.
 

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Amazing how he only analyzes Dak when he has a bad game. Never seen him analyze Dak after a good one. Maybe thats why he doesnt do it very often. Has he analyzed Brady lately? He has been bad all year or is Brady untouchable? I bet he never analyzes Hebert after a bad game. The young untouchable.
he did say up front, that he doesn't analyze the good plays, because that's not going to help improve, essentially saying he is just trying to find faults.....
 

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diagnose Moore's bad play designs. in the first 8 plays he analyzed, he passive aggressively called out the bad play design. in the 8th play (I stopped watching after that), he plain called out that we are inviting the defense to cover the play.... so this was more about Moore and his bad play calling, bad route combination and bad play design, playing right into the defenses hand. Jerry should Hire warner to coach moore
Exactly what I noticed and said. Jerry seriously needs to try to bring in Kurt Warner to help fix our passing routes and playbook. This Offense is being held back because of Kellen Moore's poor route designs.
 

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No, I'm not.

I had no issue with Warner's takes on this video. I have issues with the generalization that "Dak can't read a defense".

That is just ignorance.
Guess it comes down to ones definition of reading skills.
Is it elementary grade reading skills or collegiate level.
 

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And there it is.

Dak has a good game? "Dak rules were so lucky to have him!"

Dak stinks it up? "Damn that Kellen Moore!"

He gets all the credit for good games and none of the blame for horrid games.

Classic Davidian mentality. Love seeing it in real time
are you kidding? seriously. are you kidding me!!! when we win, its always because of rest of the team. when we lose, every missed throw gets 14 analysis threads. even against the vikings, it was because they were tired. seriously somebody said that..

I guess you must be new around here...........
 

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The plays are too cluttered. The receivers aren't getting enough separation from one another which leads to, too many defenders around the ball. Moore is not attacking the outside or the corners of the field enough.
on a lot of the pass route combinations, he runs the same route with players on one side and then another set of same routes with recievers on the other side. he insists on flooding an area trying to confuse the defense perhaps....

he is a freaking pop warner offensive coordinator.
 

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so a QB supposed to make a filet mignon out of pile of shiet play designs...we have a pop warner Offensive Coordinator designing plays for NFL team. why Moore is not fired yet, is beyond me. we will never ever win a superbowl with Moore, even if we had Rodgers as QB and Brady as his back up.
Nah, it's not beyond you. Our GM hired him.
 

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This is why I honestly don’t get the OBJ talk. It’s not the receivers. It’s a combination of scheme being just a bit off and Dak not making the reads or just not making the throws.

I feel like that’s where my anxiety with Dak comes in. I’m ok with an accurate qb that misses reads once every set of downs, or a qb that makes good reads but misses a throw every handful of plays. But Dak does BOTH. He misses reads and misses throws, which statistically translates to too many broken drives.
 
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