Was Aikman overrated?

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romo aka known as a choker such disappointment yet all his RS numbers are better 80 more tds 30 less INTs

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when im looking at all these number from our best qbs the last 35years all i see is teams and coaches failed Dak and Romo and were there for Troy./.no real difference in Indvidual play. Troy had a giant advantage
 

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No, he was NOT overrated. You never hear anyone say Montana was overrated even though he played with maybe the best bunch of receivers in NFL history.
 

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Me and a buddy are in a disagreement. He says Aikman was overrated and he's in the Hall of Fame because he was on a great team and that he was a bus driver.
I said to him, without Aikman Cowboys don't win 3 Super Bowls if any at all. Aikman did what he had to do and it wasn't about gawdy stats but if Aikman had to put up big numbers than he could have.


No, in fact he might be underrated by a lot of people that look at just stats. Especially since the game has changed so much now that anyone can throw for 4k yards and over 20 td's. Aikman was one of the most accurate QB's ever and played his best games in the playoffs. He was 11-4 in playoff games with a super bowl MVP. Steve Young had a great team around him as well and only won 1 super bowl. So the excuse that he had a great team around him doesn't fly. Aikman was better in the big moments in the playoffs than Young or even Farve was.
 

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LOL did he ever see Troy throw a football? All you need to do is check his career playoff game statistics. His career playoff QB rating would be so much higher than almost everyone else from his era it would be eye popping.
 

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No, he was NOT overrated. You never hear anyone say Montana was overrated even though he played with maybe the best bunch of receivers in NFL history.
because he won MVPs and put up big numbers at times. he wasn't along for the ride most years..Ailmans rs numbers are debatable, very suspect. Sorry it can be debated and here we are..

RS Aikman, very overrated
Playoff Aikman- HOF player..
although its odd weve seen many qbs do this like Eli and other like Flacco and foles etc catch fore pay better in the payoffs then the RS..

so yes it maybe its a no no here to question 90s players like Aikman..the OP opened it up and i say its very debatable.

the reverse of this is why romo and dak are being underrated over being on average teams. with average coaches etc.
 

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Aikman was a good quarterback, and he deserves a spot in Canton based on his accomplishments. That said, he gets overrated in the eyes of fans who only look at team success.
 

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because he won MVPs and put up big numbers at times. he wasn't along for the ride most years..Ailmans rs numbers are debatable, very suspect. Sorry it can be debated and here we are..

RS Aikman, very overrated
Playoff Aikman- HOF player..
although its odd weve seen many qbs do this like Eli and other like Flacco and foles etc catch fore pay better in the payoffs then the RS..

so yes it maybe its a no no here to question 90s players like Aikman..the OP opened it up and i say its very debatable.

the reverse of this is why romo and dak are being underrated over being on average teams. with average coaches etc.
Aikman was one of the most accurate QBs in NFL history. He didn’t put up gaudy numbers because he didn’t have to. The team wasn’t built that way. Those teams were extremely well balanced between the run and pass and that’s one of the primary reasons they won three titles. Aikman could’ve put up great numbers if the team needed him to. He certainly had the arm and talent to do so. Plus, he was the ultimate leader.
 

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romo aka known as a choker such disappointment yet all his RS numbers are better 80 more tds 30 less INTs

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I’m a big Romo fan too, but different game in different eras. You can’t really compare stats from different eras. I realize there’s not a huge difference in pure time from Aikman to Romo, but in football terms there was a big difference in how the game was played.
 

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If anything I think he is underrated. If he played in the west coast offenses that Favre or Young had his numbers would be through the roof. He had such a high completion percentage and his passes were in the middle or down the field. Not a lot of quick slants to Rice who would then run 50 yards.
 

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because he won MVPs and put up big numbers at times. he wasn't along for the ride most years..Ailmans rs numbers are debatable, very suspect. Sorry it can be debated and here we are..

RS Aikman, very overrated
Playoff Aikman- HOF player..
although its odd weve seen many qbs do this like Eli and other like Flacco and foles etc catch fore pay better in the payoffs then the RS..

so yes it maybe its a no no here to question 90s players like Aikman..the OP opened it up and i say its very debatable.

the reverse of this is why romo and dak are being underrated over being on average teams. with average coaches etc.


Did you watch those teams in the 90's? When you have a big o-line and one of the greatest running backs of all time during a time when football was more psychical and the run game was more important you don't drop back 50 times a game to throw the football. How many times were the Cowboys ahead in the 4th quarter and let Emmitt finish the game? Montana also played in the west coast offense which is predicated on throwing the football. Highly doubt if Montana was playing for Dallas with Emmitt in this offense that he would be throwing as much as he did.
If you are strictly looking at stats then you never watched those teams play and you would never understand how good Aikman was. Players and coaches have said he is one of the most accurate QB's of all time.
 

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I’m a big Romo fan too, but different game in different eras. You can’t really compare stats from different eras.
yet I CAN and did

comp% td -int ratio

i sure did ..tired of hearing that a HOF qb should not have sad little td-int 165-141 ratio Montana Blew Aikman's shoes off ,same era NOW WHAT? 273 td- 117 INT seriously its why Montana was up for league MVP many times and Aikman not sure once for his RS play,

sorry man i know its taboo but those type of comps can be made. I just said its debatable and feel at times Troy was a bus driver in the rs put up pedestrian numbers all of them jeez, dead on accuracy he had 6 seasons under 60% com % career 61% not that accurate,

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If anything I think he is underrated. If he played in the west coast offenses that Favre or Young had his numbers would be through the roof. He had such a high completion percentage and his passes were in the middle or down the field. Not a lot of quick slants to Rice who would then run 50 yards.


People who didn't watch those years have no clue. They just look at stats. They don't take into account the personal, the offensive system and how the game was different.
 

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Did you watch those teams in the 90's? When you have a big o-line and one of the greatest running backs of all time during a time when football was more psychical and the run game was more important you don't drop back 50 times a game to throw the football. How many times were the Cowboys ahead in the 4th quarter and let Emmitt finish the game? Montana also played in the west coast offense which is predicated on throwing the football. Highly doubt if Montana was playing for Dallas with Emmitt in this offense that he would be throwing as much as he did.
If you are strictly looking at stats then you never watched those teams play and you would never understand how good Aikman was. Players and coaches have said he is one of the most accurate QB's of all time.
yes i was 52 watched them ALL in real time in the hey day stop i wont agree its debate i shot my opinion and that it will not change..

yet I CAN and did

comp% td -int ratio

i sure did ..tired of hearing that a HOF qb should not have sad little td-int 165-141 ratio Montana Blew Aikman's shoes off ,same era NOW WHAT? 273 td- 117 INT seriously its why Montana was up for league MVP many times and Aikman not sure once for his RS play, Postseason he elevated his paly ..

sorry man i know its taboo but those type of comps can be made. I just said its debatable and feel at times Troy was a bus driver in the rs put up pedestrian numbers all of them jeez, dead on accuracy he had 6 seasons under 60% like 52-56% types of years comp % career 61% not that accurate,

you guys dont like reality but are allowing those GREAT teams to c,oud your judgements onayer comps. Montana was in the same aera as troy.

troys fair game like Dak and romo in the zone..i say RS troy was a bus driver riding the coatails of truly great OL and run game , great defense, and coaches all were far better then anything Dak and Romo received.
shot fired Now what>?!:omg:o_O:rolleyes:
 

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People who didn't watch those years have no clue. They just look at stats. They don't take into account the personal, the offensive system and how the game was different.

"People" Lmao speak for yourself..
Hey, Im 52 watched ever single game in 1980-present, closely like a religion. nothing fair weather or average about how i watch and follow the Cowboys,

sorry, i say RS troy was overrated a product of his team.. yes he stepped up in the post season but so did, foles, flacco, eli and others..

Montana was far better and in the same era..just do stat comp to top 5 qbs of the 80-90s and see how troy stacks up.
 

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yes i was 52 watched them ALL in real time in the hey day stop i wont agree its debate i shot my opinion and that it will not change..

yet I CAN and did

comp% td -int ratio

i sure did ..tired of hearing that a HOF qb should not have sad little td-int 165-141 ratio Montana Blew Aikman's shoes off ,same era NOW WHAT? 273 td- 117 INT seriously its why Montana was up for league MVP many times and Aikman not sure once for his RS play, Postseason he elevated his paly ..

sorry man i know its taboo but those type of comps can be made. I just said its debatable and feel at times Troy was a bus driver in the rs put up pedestrian numbers all of them jeez, dead on accuracy he had 6 seasons under 60% like 52-56% types of years comp % career 61% not that accurate,

you guys dont like reality but are allowing those GREAT teams to c,oud your judgements onayer comps. Montana was in the same aera as troy.

troys fair game like Dak and romo in the zone..i say RS troy was a bus driver riding the coatails of truly great OL and run game , great defense, and coaches all were far better then anything Dak and Romo received.
shot fired Now what>?!:omg:o_O:rolleyes:



I So you don't understand the style of offense that Montana played in compared to what Aikman played in? You don't understand the difference of having an Emmitt Smith? Roger Craig as a running back had over 1k in receiving yards at least twice. Why? Because he played in the west coast offense with Montana throwing short. If Aikman was asked to play in the west coast offense with his accuracy he would be able to put numbers as well. If you are only looking at stats as a way to judge Aikman's talents then you are lost.
 
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