Washington Post: Commanders Trying to Land Cutler

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I'd really rather they were stuck with Campbell rather than getting Cutler. But maybe that's just me.
 

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They only have 4 tradeable draft picks. I don't think they have near enough unless they throw in a future #1.
 

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Hostile;2713481 said:
They only have 4 tradeable draft picks. I don't think they have near enough unless they throw in a future #1.

Didn't know that. No wonder they are trying to get a second for Campbell.
 

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Hostile;2713481 said:
They only have 4 tradeable draft picks. I don't think they have near enough unless they throw in a future #1.

I could see them giving them all to Denver to get Cutler - including any pick they might get for Jason Campbell.
 

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stasheroo;2713536 said:
I could see them giving them all to Denver to get Cutler - including any pick they might get for Jason Campbell.
And not even show up for the draft?

:lmao:
 

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Jay Cutler is definitely an upgrade over Jason Campbell. But, don't fool yourself into thinking that Cutler is a true franchise QB right now. Don't forget that while he did put up great numbers in Denver, Mike Shannahan is an offensive genius. He even managed to get Jake Plumber and Brian Griese to put up good numbers in his offense.
 

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Coy;2712975 said:
Not a chance in Hell, at least not for Campbell and a 2nd rounder, they a least would have to give up Campbell and two 1st rounders (2009 and 2010).

That's not what they said. They said they are trying to dump cambell for a 2nd...so that 2nd would be added to whatever else they are packaging for Cutler. I assume thier #1, plus maybe two #2s or a starting player.
 

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SMCowboy;2713589 said:
Jay Cutler is definitely an upgrade over Jason Campbell. But, don't fool yourself into thinking that Cutler is a true franchise QB right now. Don't forget that while he did put up great numbers in Denver, Mike Shannahan is an offensive genius. He even managed to get Jake Plumber and Brian Griese to put up good numbers in his offense.

He could be, but not quite yet. He is more on par with Romo, but younger. he does have the diabetes issue though.
 

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DFWJC;2713620 said:
He could be, but not quite yet. He is more on par with Romo, but younger. he does have the diabetes issue though.

I wouldn't put Cutler on par with Romo. Yeah, Cutler put up big stats, but he threw the ball the second most times in the league. And his 86 QB rating when his schedule is stuffed with defensive powers like Kansas City, Oakland, and San Diego is far from inspiring. Don't overlook the fact that Romo puts up his numbers which are slightly better (though close) having to face the Giants, Eagles, and Commanders twice a year.

I am not saying that if Washington gets Cutler that you can expect him to post 2800 yard, 18 TD, 20 INT seasons. But you can rest assured that he will not post near the numbers that he did in Denver having to face D's like the Giants, Eagles and Cowboys twice a year, instead of KC, Oakland, and San Diego.....
 

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Sorry guys but if the skins land Cutler, I predict they go 11-5, 10-6 easy... QB makes all the difference in your team. They have had a real solid defense for years. The NFC East will surely be the class of the NFL if Cutler goes to Washington.
 

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SMCowboy;2713654 said:
I wouldn't put Cutler on par with Romo. Yeah, Cutler put up big stats, but he threw the ball the second most times in the league. And his 86 QB rating when his schedule is stuffed with defensive powers like Kansas City, Oakland, and San Diego is far from inspiring. Don't overlook the fact that Romo puts up his numbers which are slightly better (though close) having to face the Giants, Eagles, and Commanders twice a year.

I am not saying that if Washington gets Cutler that you can expect him to post 2800 yard, 18 TD, 20 INT seasons. But you can rest assured that he will not post near the numbers that he did in Denver having to face D's like the Giants, Eagles and Cowboys twice a year, instead of KC, Oakland, and San Diego.....

Good point. It's not that I would trade Romo for Cutler, but i do consider them pretty much on par (with Romo ahead of Cutler) if you factor in age. But I do pretty much agree with your post.

Bottom line, I think it will take either two middle to upper 1st rounders or maybe a decent 1st rounder plus two second rounders to get Cutler.
 

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adamknite;2713322 said:
Overall Defense is decided by Yards allowed per game... not points allowed per game. We were 8th.


Example: In 2003 we had the #1 ranked defense... but New England allowed less points per game that year.


Simple question...Whose defense would you rather have, the Commanders or ours who gave two 70+ yd runs in the last game at Texas stadium againsth THE RAVENS. Being objective, I'd have to take the Skins D overall.
 

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Skinsmaniac;2713301 said:
Who else is there? uh, the very same players that led us to a 4 or 6 ranked defense last year. If you don't know the names of those players, that says more about you than them. Also, Fletcher is a small linebacker - I don't know where you're getting your info.

We lost Springs, Washington and Jason Taylor, none of whom contributed to our defense in a meaningful or lasting way.

All that being said, I really, really hope we don't acquire Cutler. I just don't think I could bear another of Snyder's moves.:mad:

it says more about the system than them
 

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ajk23az;2713324 said:
The Broncos did not have ANYTHING near the Commanders defense.

Broncos gave up 28 points per game LOL...Commanders 18.5.

I think its a lot easier to win games win you dont have to score 4 TDs and then some more a game. I could be wrong though.

it was the O that faltered down the stretch last year

seeing as the D sucked all year

I'm sorry man, I just can't commiserate with you
 

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JerryAdvocate;2713788 said:
it says more about the system than them
Perhaps. I think that Greg Blache is a very good coach. He made some noise about retiring a year ago, so I hope we don't lose him soon.
 

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Skinsmaniac;2713792 said:
Perhaps. I think that Greg Blache is a very good coach. He made some noise about retiring a year ago, so I hope we don't lose him soon.

I think he just continued the Greg William's scheme and tweaked it a little
 

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Hostile;2713481 said:
They only have 4 tradeable draft picks. I don't think they have near enough unless they throw in a future #1.

or an offensive player such as Cooley

a player will definitely have to be thrown in IMO
 

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JerryAdvocate;2713794 said:
I think he just continued the Greg William's scheme and tweaked it a little
He didn't blitz nearly as much. And Gregg Williams didn't look so good with the Jaguars last year. Our players are pretty good.
 

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Yes for the Skins to get it done, given what I've heard it will take (I've read articles where it's been said it will take more than a 1 and a 3 to get Cutler) it's going to take them having to give a 1 and a player of some caliber. Meaning, off the top of my head, they've got Portis, Moss, and Cooley who might be of serious interest to anyone.
 
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